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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: Jasonj]
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04/02/18 10:33 PM
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lol If you use a 330 Belisle for muskrat you must be a master at sewing  LOL yep  my thoughts exactly. Jurassic just so you know, we use them for wolverines and have caught many, without issue, until this new batch of 18 traps. purchased this fall. And while you can catch lynx in a 330, it is certainly not how we target lynx, I guess maybe that is what the Canadian BMP's tell you the 330 is for? And I would suggest you read his post where he said IT’S MADE for muskrat. There’s a huge difference between catching incidental muskrats in a 330 vs targeting muskrats in them. I can assure you if I caught 500 rats using only belisle 330 there would be one heck of a mess. That’s why I use 1.5 coil and 110 Conibear. Doesn’t matter what you use a Belisle 330 for. The trap manufacturer makes this trap for muskrat, beaver, and lynx. If you want to use it for wolverines and wolves and not muskrats that’s your choice. Imagine taking your bass fishing boat and gear to the ocean to fish for tuna, then complain about your line and rod snapping, boat capsizing, and you almost drowning. Then blame it on the quality of the gear you were using.
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: fishermann222]
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04/03/18 07:03 AM
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The odd incidental catch is always going to happen, it is in the nature of are business, with the magnum style 3rd generation rotating jaw traps it happens more often simple because the traps are tighter closing, with less change of a pull-out. Bent jaws happen but if it is a major issue I would contact the manufacturer and enquirer. They may have had a bad batch of steel. A lot more of that nowadays with cheap off-shore importing. http://belisletrap.com/en/
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: fishermann222]
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04/03/18 11:28 AM
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Jurassic, what is your experience catching wolves and wolverines, just curious. I usually catch one wolf a year and never tried catching a wolverine since there’s no season for them where I trap. If I did have a wolverine season and a population of them I would use a belisle 330 to try catching one, but I definitely would not complain about the jaws bending if they did. I’ve used a butter knife as a screw driver before, but I didn’t ever complained about the efficiency or quality of it.
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: Akmike84]
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04/03/18 12:01 PM
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Huh, if they are making the 330's for rats, what the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) are the smaller traps for? Just curious... Voles and shrews.
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: Jurassic Park]
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04/03/18 01:03 PM
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Jurassic, what is your experience catching wolves and wolverines, just curious. I usually catch one wolf a year and never tried catching a wolverine since there’s no season for them where I trap. If I did have a wolverine season and a population of them I would use a belisle 330 to try catching one, but I definitely would not complain about the jaws bending if they did. I’ve used a butter knife as a screw driver before, but I didn’t ever complained about the efficiency or quality of it. Even if the older model jaws did not bend and the newer ones might be junky? You would still not wonder if something had changed? 
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: fishermann222]
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04/03/18 04:07 PM
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The jaws always bent on the belisles.I used about 3 dozen of them doing nuisance work on the railway.After a month or so and a couple hundred beaver, the jaws were all bent enough to require on the job repairs with a spike maul.
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: Binthewoods]
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04/03/18 06:39 PM
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I would still complain if they are bending when they didn't in the past since that seems to be giving wolverines the wiggle room to pull free from the traps without killing it.
Just like the fox I caught that I mentioned earlier. It should have died almost immediately, but didn't, probably because the jaws bent around its head.
I saw a video from a buddy this year of a wolverine caught perfectly with a belisle they bought last year. Rather than quickly killing the wolverine it fought the trap and eventually twisted free. If the metal is also softer you have to wonder if the springs are weaker now. Something is not right.
I guess the belisle 330 is a muskrat trap nowadays. They should have told us! How dare they! Can’t fix stupid!
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: Jurassic Park]
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04/03/18 06:47 PM
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: fishermann222]
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04/04/18 05:48 PM
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Jim's a die hard sauvageau guy,lol.I have never had a broken spring on a belisle,but had a couple broken springs on a couple 280 ldl's set under ice one time only about 10 years ago.When I pulled the traps both springs were broke on each of 2 traps right at the jaw eye bend.Guy gave me 2 new traps.I heard Belisle,Sauvageau and LDL all use the same spring steel,but form them to their own standards.
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