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Lure price increase #6211221
04/08/18 12:04 AM
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Goldsboro, North Carolina
Paul Dobbins Online content OP
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Due to the increase in cost of producing my lures, I had to raise my lure prices. As I stated recently on here, I was making very little on my lures and needed to increase the price if I was going to continue offering them for sale. I wanted to give y'all a heads-up, so that when you went to order lures, you'd already know about the increase.

I could have diluted the lures, or used inferior ingredients to keep the prices the same and make more profit. However, the lures would have suffered and I have too much pride in my lures to do that. I'd prefer to get out of the lure business before I'd put lures out there that were not up to the standards they have been over the years. Besides, dad would have a fit if he were here and knew I had lowered the standards on the lures he formulated.

Anyway, now the prices are as follows.
1 ounce - $7.50
4 ounce - $25.00
pints - $80.00
Bait Solution - $25.00
Beaver and Bobcat Medley - $20. per pint.



Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211237
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Paul, everyone should understand the price of doing business Appreciate the quality of your products.

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211238
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Still a bargain at that price .keep up the good work.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211306
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Your gonna have to raise them a lot higher than that to keep me from buying Backbreaker. No issues from me on raising prices.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211376
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Everything goes up in price....except fur. High castor prices have to be hurting many lure makers. I expect to see a lot of folks raising prices soon.

I had to raise honey prices last year after holding the same price for many years. Fifteen years ago, I could by a 3 lb package of bees for $45. You'll struggle to find them for less than $110 this spring. You'll pay $30 for a new queen bee.....for one bug!

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211394
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Shipping is getting crazy don't blame you a bit flat rate went up regional did also.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Law Dog] #6211402
04/08/18 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Shipping is getting crazy don't blame you a bit flat rate went up regional did also.


I charge actual shipping on orders, so really that doesn't play into the price increase. It's the increased cost of ingredients, bottles, etc.



Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211404
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Paul can you re use empty lure bottles if the trappers dropped them off for you at the NTA or other conventions?

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Boco] #6211407
04/08/18 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted By: Boco
Paul can you re use empty lure bottles if the trappers dropped them off for you at the NTA or other conventions?


It wouldn't be cost effective to clean them up. Getting the labels off is labor intensive. I've done it with wine bottles. That's not a good option.



Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211412
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Thanks for the update, and for your honesty.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211428
04/08/18 03:53 AM
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Thanks for the update. Iím glad you are going to maintain the quality of lure and raise the prices, rather than skimp on quality of ingredients. Although, I know your integrity would never allow you to do that.

Iíll gladly pay the extra $5 for 4 ounces.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211538
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One thing a lot of trappers don't think about is good lure takes much less per set. If you're running a big stick in there and using three times what you need it's counter productive anyway. That Digger of Paul's goes a long ways. Put a toothpick in lure and see how easy a dog in the yard locates it. Those canines that have to work for a living can detect it far far better than Rover.

Re: Lure price increase [Re: 080808] #6211567
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Originally Posted By: 080808
Paul, everyone should understand the price of doing business Appreciate the quality of your products.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: rpmartin] #6211594
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Making quality lures is tough. Making quality lures that you sell on a commercial basis is tougher. Good ingredients are very expensive.
I take my hat off to you and other quality lure makers. It may not be popular to say, but while there are a lot of lure makers, in my opinion,
very few are what I would call top lure makers. You are lucky in that you are following in your dad's footsteps. He was a guy that truly understood quality.
I feel very fortunate to have learned from him at one of Neil Olson's seminars. Also learned just from asking questions, shutting my yap, and listening to him at a few conventions.
I appreciate not only your lures, I very much appreciate the ingredients that you sell.

Mac




Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211610
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You are not alone Paul we have discussed this a few times in the past year. I can't tell you a quality ingredient or bottle/cap order that I purchased in the last year that hasn't gone up in price. I have no doubt that this will only be the continued trend in the years to come.

Also far less trappers are cutting, collecting animal glands, urines and byproducts that are staple ingredients required in our industry to continue to produce quality products. Many of us are getting older, retiring and dying off. The old fur buyers and their knowledge of saving the things that we need are becoming less available each year.

Many of the younger generation doesn't have the interest or knowledge to take up these old professions. All this makes what is available in greater demand causing higher prices for these ingredients as well. Total synthetic products will be a thing of fact for the future no doubt. I won't live to see it but I will predict it now.

We all try to hold the line as best we can for as long as is reasonable. However the options to keep it profitable and to maintain quality products were already mentioned. I decided early on in my formulation profession to produce high quality products and to continue that trend until such time that I sold out, became disabled or died.

It seems that I am getting ever closer to the end of that trail but its been a good ride.

Trappers expect good quality products and those with pride in our business are obligated to do just that. There will be some that may find it in their best interests to make adjustments to a product before raising the price, or will try to absorb the gradual loss in profit as long as possible but that soon catches up to anyone with a good business sense.

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Bob Jameson] #6211665
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Not to speak for Paul or Bob but I know both of them well enough to say their integrity to keep producing quality products is what is behind raising prices and I only hope we have that same reputation and respect Bob and Paul have from the trapping community. But I also know ingredient prices and glass keeps going up and that's been mentioned but in typical lure maker fashion none of us mention the labor involved in producing commercial lures because there is a bond and love for doing what we do or we wouldn't be doing it. But for the labor intensive aspect of the job a little profit shouldn't be anything to be ashamed of either. Much respect to both of you.

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I just ordered pint jars and they are up from last year due to a resin shortage ....hurricane/refinery situation


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211708
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Quality cost. Get what you pay for. I'll keep paying for what works. Thankful you guys make it.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211779
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I don't like the writing on the wall i see. Less trappers, lower fur price's, higher cost to trap not just only in cost of lure but also vehicles, tires, battery's, fuel, etc, etc.

Makes me wonder at WHAT point the cost for the lure gets above what the demand for it is?

Can't see rooting around in that rotten mess to produce a lure to sell at a loss of money
and hats off to ALL of you would make the lures, wasn't ever an interest of mine, stinks
enough just having a bottle of it here and there much less mixing all the nastiness together
in large quantity's and storing, no clue how any of you keep a wife, lol.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211823
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If things were to continue like the last few years we"ll see fewer lure makers and supply dealers like in the eighties. I've gotten to the point in my trapping career where I like piddling with making lure and bait and catching stuff on it. I'd never begin to think what I concoct is even close to the quality and know how of the above men. I'm just getting older and methods and fooling with different sets with fewer sets out are satisfying anymore. I do still buy lure though. I only have one I make I have utmost confidence in.

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