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Just Watched the movie Wind River last night. I have to say that movies lately have generally sucked, but this one impressed me and my wife.
Any movie that starts off showing a coyote getting smoked with a scoped lever action..red mist and all..had my attention from the beginning. One brutal scene toward the end, but it is meant to shake you up. Movies always miss the sound effects when snowmobiles are involved. They nailed the sound of a two stroke sled perfectly, although the timing was a bit off with the throttle. Showed the main character reloading handgun bullets...properly from what I briefly noticed. Whoever they got advice from for real life rural living knew what he was doing. Obviously some creative license, but for a movie it was the best ive seen in ages.
And the storyline was great. The did a good job showing the hopelessness that unfortunately exists on some native reserves...and an ending we all wish would happen in real life.
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6216160 04/13/1808:17 AM04/13/1808:17 AM
My wife watched it on Netflix and said that I should watch it! Now you give it a thumbs up too! Guess with the snowstorm coming this weekend I will be watching Wind River!
Chris
>>In God we trust<<
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6216166 04/13/1808:23 AM04/13/1808:23 AM
Yea, its pretty tough to find a movie where you cant find many holes in the realism. He even had his rifle strapped to a badlands 2200 pack in snow camo. I own a few badlands packs, so it was nice to see something he would actually use. He said he used to be an outfitter, and that backed it up. Small things impress me I guess, but its the details that make a difference.
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6216169 04/13/1808:27 AM04/13/1808:27 AM
He started using about a 2006 skidoo rev longtrack. 600 I believe. At first I wondered why they would use an outdated sled in a movie, but..thats what an old rancher would probably own.
Made me mad and the wife happy. I couldnt sit and complain about what wasnt like real life!
There was one fallacy I found though...that you can die from freezing your lungs running in cold air.. At least thats a wives tale and commonly believed, but it just cant happen.
I a totally different direction I watched "Slum Dog Millionaire" the other day; great movie. An interesting aspect I noticed, that the movie didn't really touch on, is that even though East Indian culture (at least the majority of it) which greatly values animal rights sure doesn't value human life very much.
"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6216228 04/13/1809:41 AM04/13/1809:41 AM
Another good movie, although the theme was bit dark was Mr Brooks. One of kevin costners best. Another one that sticks out in my mind was Grand Torino with ol clint.
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6216320 04/13/1811:12 AM04/13/1811:12 AM
haha, ok...the rifle wasnt exactly the one id use, especially in that open country. But I have certainly seen much worse interpretations of hunting /shooting in movies!
In movie circles, we all know that looking cool trumps reality. I give them a pass on this one!
And since I dont have a 45/70 or cougar, how does that gun stack up against big kitties?
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6216417 04/13/1801:06 PM04/13/1801:06 PM
Marty, at my buddies sugar shack three days ago it was just above freezing and we had an inchworm caterpillar thing just truckin along. Also recall at lower elevations in the movie there was almost no snow in some scenes. He did say how much colder it was in the mountains at night.
I find the spider believable because I dont think it was that cold where that scene was. I could be mistaken though since I only saw it once.
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Zim]
#6216447 04/13/1801:41 PM04/13/1801:41 PM
Well I guess a guy could find fault with about every movie that has been made. We watched Wind River a couple of months ago and thought it was great.
Zim
That's true, Zim- and I try to keep in mind the producers in movies- who direct the actors . I have to work to ignore some things too- the most advanced technically correct movies- STILL have- horses whinny or make noise when they rear up or jump with a rider....they never make a sound. By and large they are silent under stress or in action.
That and aiming a pistol ready to shoot -or been shooting- with the hammer not cocked. Or firing dozens of rounds without reloading
You are correct, though- just enjoy the movie and let the harrsesss make all the noise dubbed to them !
Well I guess a guy could find fault with about every movie that has been made. We watched Wind River a couple of months ago and thought it was great.
Zim
That's true, Zim- and I try to keep in mind the producers in movies- who direct the actors . I have to work to ignore some things too- the most advanced technically correct movies- STILL have- horses whinny or make noise when they rear up or jump with a rider....they never make a sound. By and large they are silent under stress or in action.
That and aiming a pistol ready to shoot -or been shooting- with the hammer not cocked. Or firing dozens of rounds without reloading
You are correct, though- just enjoy the movie and let the harrsesss make all the noise dubbed to them !
I guess my point with this one was that i wasnt distracted trying to point out all the things that were way off and could actually enjoy it! haha
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6216515 04/13/1803:39 PM04/13/1803:39 PM
It was a movie worth watching. There isn't many made anymore. I watched Black Panther the other night with the kids, there's a couple hours I can't get back. If nothing else Elizabeth Olsen is easy on the eyes.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6216533 04/13/1804:09 PM04/13/1804:09 PM
The wife and I enjoyed "Wind River" also. We went strictly Net flicks about seven months ago. A really good movie we watched recently on net flicks was "St. Vincent" with Bill Murry. The plot kind of reminded me of "Grand Torino" with Clint Eastwood.
Western SD Fur Harvesters, SDTA, NTA, FTA and life member of NRA. Cancer survivor (7 years) and still fighting it.
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6216737 04/13/1809:49 PM04/13/1809:49 PM
Wife and I watched it and liked it. Couple intense scenes.
I would recommend "Defiance". Based on a true story. WW2 era. It's on Netflix.
"Jewish brothers in Nazi-occupied Eastern Europe escape into the Belarussian forests, where they join Russian resistance fighters, and endeavor to build a village, in order to protect themselves and about one thousand Jewish non-combatants."
Levi
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6216769 04/13/1810:21 PM04/13/1810:21 PM
How about the flipping spider walking across the snow at 40° below?
I took a picture of a spider on the snow this winter. It was way out in the middle of a frozen bog. I don't remember the exact temp but it was during the cold snap we had so probably between -15 and 15. I'll see if I can find it.
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Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6216975 04/14/1808:55 AM04/14/1808:55 AM
[/quote] Or firing dozens of rounds without reloading :): [/quote] Well it's pretty dog gone obvious you don't know much about reeevolers, I've personally seen John Wayne shoot hundreds of desperado's without ever having to reload! Not once!
Not as bad as I could be, not as good as I should be.
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6217077 04/14/1811:34 AM04/14/1811:34 AM
Wind River one of the best. Very intense scene when the contractors had a showdown with the law accusing the law of pointing a gun at them for no reason. It seemed the FBI agent calmed everything down and then... Movie had what seemed to be calm scenes that can out of nowhere erupt into chaos. Just like in life, be observant since the unexpected can happen at any time. After listening to some of the comments the director said about the coyote scene, I got the impression the director didn’t really care about what the animal rights groups said about it.
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6217186 04/14/1802:30 PM04/14/1802:30 PM
I don't know much about Jeremy Renner, but I've enjoyed just about every movie he's been in. He has a knack for playing down-to-earth likeable characters.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6217552 04/14/1810:29 PM04/14/1810:29 PM
Any movie that starts off showing a coyote getting smoked with a scoped lever action..red mist and all..had my attention from the beginning.
Not that it really matters, but I don't think the opening coyote seen was with a lever action. I'd have to look again, but I thought he was working a bolt and the gun was white.
"They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: goldy]
#6217578 04/14/1810:59 PM04/14/1810:59 PM
Any movie that starts off showing a coyote getting smoked with a scoped lever action..red mist and all..had my attention from the beginning.
Not that it really matters, but I don't think the opening coyote seen was with a lever action. I'd have to look again, but I thought he was working a bolt and the gun was white.
Agreed.
Been a minute since I watched the movie, but I'm pretty sure he used a bolt.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6217703 04/15/1801:31 AM04/15/1801:31 AM
[quote=Hutchy] Any movie that starts off showing a coyote getting smoked with a scoped lever action..red mist and all..had my attention from the beginning.
Not that it really matters, but I don't think the opening coyote seen was with a lever action. I'd have to look again, but I thought he was working a bolt and the gun was white.
Agreed.
Been a minute since I watched the movie, but I'm pretty sure he used a bolt.
Mike
Perhaps I just assumed he used the same gun he had for the rest of movie.a bolt would make much more sensem Hey, an excuse to watch it again!
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6217898 04/15/1809:35 AM04/15/1809:35 AM
So some well workers actually had a shoot out with deputys killing four or so?
The well workers I believe were actually security guards for a well drilling operation. Would make sense as they were heavily armed and most prior military!
I tried looking all I could confirm is he found the girl and helped fbi lady. I don't remember hearing anything on the news about reservation cops getting killed in a shoot out Rancher I trapped for said oil workers were not supposed to have guns, but these guys were security, seems they wouldn't need 5-6 guys to watch a drilling site
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Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6217991 04/15/1811:10 AM04/15/1811:10 AM
I don't know if the movie is based on one actual event or is just a representation of common occurrences on reservations.
A family member of mine got involved with a Shoshone gal and moved out to the WR reservation. This family member wasn't a model citizen and had spent time in prison and had seen some of the rougher side of life... I don't think he made it a month on the rez before he moved back to town.
It's not a nice place.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6218183 04/15/1802:02 PM04/15/1802:02 PM
I see alot of crime and desperation everywhere I go or have lived. But i do not live on reservations so cannot speak on them. Lots of great advertisement for automakers, and outdoor power machines and cutesy outdoor accessories. I enjoyed the movie. Realism? Not much. Mostly typical Hollywood stuff. Men thrown across a trailer house from bullet impact. Others just like that. Pretty silly but entertaining. Never missed a shot from long range. Pretty silly. Oil field worker just happened to have a machine gun in his trailer. Kind of a stretch. Security must have wanted them to be ready for a buffalo stampede. Men living alone without women resorting to rape as they have no self control and buddies that allow and cover it up. Would you??? Yet for way over 40 years of Hollywood I have seen this be a major theme as well as books. Following three mountain lions to a shallow den and then mentioning they are done. Like to see that shooter an hour later. The tracker must be the highest paid one on earth. Must have the best banker on earth as well. The FBI lady is as green as grass but a true wonderment at firefights. The Native American actors are pretty good. The one fellow is getting alot of miles on him. But I enjoy him. Alot of tiresome old old old themes. But a good movie. Could have been alot better. Would be nice to see some writers really try instead of just putting out the same old sad song much like listening to a auctioneer for to many hours straight. The oil companies are made out to be as evil as ever, another tiresome theme. Wonder what the director drives. Probly walks everywhere he goes. Barefoot. No heat or electric for him I spose. I can think of at least 10 other movies that have that are much like this one. Time to either get some real writers, stop making movies until a couple generations die off so the younger ones can believe that the stuff they watch is new, or for us older folks to just watch Gunsmoke.
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Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6218222 04/15/1802:46 PM04/15/1802:46 PM
I see alot of crime and desperation everywhere I go or have lived. But i do not live on reservations so cannot speak on them. Lots of great advertisement for automakers, and outdoor power machines and cutesy outdoor accessories. I enjoyed the movie. Realism? Not much. Mostly typical Hollywood stuff. Men thrown across a trailer house from bullet impact. Others just like that. Pretty silly but entertaining. Never missed a shot from long range. Pretty silly. Oil field worker just happened to have a machine gun in his trailer. Kind of a stretch. Security must have wanted them to be ready for a buffalo stampede. Men living alone without women resorting to rape as they have no self control and buddies that allow and cover it up. Would you??? Yet for way over 40 years of Hollywood I have seen this be a major theme as well as books. Following three mountain lions to a shallow den and then mentioning they are done. Like to see that shooter an hour later. The tracker must be the highest paid one on earth. Must have the best banker on earth as well. The FBI lady is as green as grass but a true wonderment at firefights. The Native American actors are pretty good. The one fellow is getting alot of miles on him. But I enjoy him. Alot of tiresome old old old themes. But a good movie. Could have been alot better. Would be nice to see some writers really try instead of just putting out the same old sad song much like listening to a auctioneer for to many hours straight. The oil companies are made out to be as evil as ever, another tiresome theme. Wonder what the director drives. Probly walks everywhere he goes. Barefoot. No heat or electric for him I spose. I can think of at least 10 other movies that have that are much like this one. Time to either get some real writers, stop making movies until a couple generations die off so the younger ones can believe that the stuff they watch is new, or for us older folks to just watch Gunsmoke.
Then there’s that guy
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Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6218235 04/15/1803:12 PM04/15/1803:12 PM
The end ruined it for me. I have no idea how he got the bad guy to the top of that mountain. Second; if it was soooo cold your lungs explode in 100 yards they sure would have had some cold weather gear on. Never ever heard of lungs exploding? Frostbit airway possible? Hollywood does not know how to portray cold. IMO
Who is John Galt?
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6218349 04/15/1805:17 PM04/15/1805:17 PM
No, cold is still a boogeyman to be exploited. The frozen lung myth has been disproven over and over. Even with sustained maximum breathing rate in forty below the air that actually reaches your lungs is still at body temp. Reality just isn't always interesting or makes for a good story. We know that already though
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6218357 04/15/1805:20 PM04/15/1805:20 PM
I enjoyed the movie, I lived just a few miles outside of the Wind River Reservation for several years. I have never seen any security people around any oil or gas wells other than maybe some one camped there while they were drilling, and the USFW has no authority on the Res
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6218485 04/15/1807:42 PM04/15/1807:42 PM
Every movie has it's unrealistic moments. I just try to enjoy the ones with the fewest... I enjoyed Wind River. Wyoming... My kind of country right there... Dead of winter.
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Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6218624 04/15/1809:39 PM04/15/1809:39 PM
The movie was great. I watched it a couple times. It is based on true events . I told a friend about it , he really liked it too. I would recommend it for sure. Like said earlier, nice way to start the movie out, on a Yote hunt.
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6218657 04/15/1809:59 PM04/15/1809:59 PM
I don't know if the movie is based on one actual event or is just a representation of common occurrences on reservations.
A family member of mine got involved with a Shoshone gal and moved out to the WR reservation. This family member wasn't a model citizen and had spent time in prison and had seen some of the rougher side of life... I don't think he made it a month on the rez before he moved back to town.
It's not a nice place.
Mike
You hit it on the head Mike.....According to Wikipedia.....
According to Sheridan (the Director), the opening "inspired by true events" card[6] was a reference to the "thousands of actual stories just like it" involving sexual assault of women on reservations, his primary motivation for writing the film.[7]
Happy trapping! ScottW
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6218694 04/15/1810:39 PM04/15/1810:39 PM
As far as the USFW having no authority on the reservation, If I remember the agent in the movies wasn’t doing any law enforcement work but wasn’t he hunting predators as favor to the reservation. He knew the members of the reservation since his ex-wife was a Native American and he had a daughter to her that was also murdered a few years prior.
Re: Wind River... good movie
[Re: Hutchy]
#6218753 04/15/1811:43 PM04/15/1811:43 PM
I've hunted in cold weather for almost 40 years, been gasping for air because of exertion chasing coyote and fox, never once even got a sore throat from cold air, one stalk I did During -58 wind chill. Bare foot, no long johns, I doubt I would have made it six miles like that poor girl did, I highly doubt the frozen lung thing, more likely exposier, being out in too cold of temperature, killed her imo
