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Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: LT GREY] #6222089
04/19/18 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
Buck, unless I use a drowning ROD, I always long chain my beaver traps.
Usually 18 foot of #2 twist link, heavily swiveled.
I seldom see a reason to drown a beaver.
You obviously aren't talking about trapping numbers of beaver. You must be talking the occasional ADC job right out of the truck. I can think of many reasons to drown beaver. For one thing, 18' of chain weighs a LOT. You aren't going to carry many traps with 18' of chain. Plus it takes extra time to dispatch live beaver. Drowned beaver are out of sight and cooled down for skinning. Drowned beaver are far less likely to get bit up by another beaver. Drowning sets don't need to be checked every morning. And sooner or later you're going to have a twist off long chaining with large traps. I've had a few really close calls myself, and with no entanglement. It takes less than 6 minutes to drown a beaver if it can't get air. Hold a beaver for 6 minutes and he's done. Long chaining, you may need to hold a beaver for 12 hours or more. Drowning just makes more sense.

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Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6222296
04/20/18 09:05 AM
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18 FEET? Must be a typo.

I'll use half that sometimes with a weight wired to the trap...Drowned beaver (and no...you don't need 30 lbs like some think). But yes, that weight sure adds up quick.

And a lot of areas around here where a beaver up on the bank with a #5 on its leg will get you a LOT more attention than you want (and fired from an ADC job)

I won't even use magnum jawed #330s for that reason if doing ADC work anywhere near residential.

Down and out is the way to go. Blub, blub, blub.

Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6222306
04/20/18 09:15 AM
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18' isn't that heavy. Unless your using tie down chains. #2 isn't heavy. 4-6 in a pack basket or sled isn't a hard pack. LT is bigger than I am so...

Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6222432
04/20/18 01:33 PM
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Anyone figure he's not going out setting like everyone else ? Not everyone goes out with all the traps their gonna use that season and try to set them out that day. Sound more like he's using a progressive line tactic.

Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6222433
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And on the subject if you've never seen Dale billingsley's beaver video I highly suggest you do !

Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6222447
04/20/18 01:57 PM
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10 feet of chain staked deep. And 4 or 5 lbs of weight attached to the chain close to the trap. That will tire out any beaver In a short time.
no matter what anyone tells you I don't want a live beaver on the bank period.


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Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6222463
04/20/18 02:20 PM
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Bears and wolves are the problem here. Down and out is best .


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Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: Wolfdog91] #6222492
04/20/18 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: Wolfdog91
And on the subject if you've never seen Dale billingsley's beaver video I highly suggest you do !

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Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6222497
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I've seen Dales video. I like it...and has its application but trap enough beaver with long chains and you will learn what they can, and will, find under the water to hang up on. Even on a sand beach at times.

Weighted like beav does and usually not an issue (other than retrieval) but no weight and you will experience more wring offs if front foot caught. And no matter what you do, you will get a front foot once and awhile.

I don't want them up on land alive either....but to each his own.

Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6222529
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Anyone notice how far this has moved from the the subject? So I’ll add my zero cents worth. When I moved up here there was a minister who trapped a lot of beavers wearing nothing more than knee boots and no body grippers. He tied railroad plates wired close to the trap.

Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6222536
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What did he call that-the hail Mary set?


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Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6222543
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No! It was his way of “servicing “ the beaver “house” of worship. Ok I need to get a life. Gonna go cut,split more hickoryand locust.

Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: LT GREY] #6223078
04/21/18 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
I base plate mine...and the reason is, I want the swivel coming off the bottom,(on a D-ring) of the frame and NOT the spring !
I also use #9 wire to laminate the jaws and add a Paws-I- Trip pan system.
On older models, I can show you a method of re-strengthening the springs that will out last the trap !
I add two double swivels right off the D ring / frame.
Never lost a beaver in this set-up, ever !
If you're on facebook, you can see quite a few pictures in my albums of this set up and the results.
Otherwise, someone will have to walk me through how to post pics on here, as I don't know how since they stopped using Photo Bucket !

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I am very interested in how to strengthen the old springs, I have several older ones with weak springs and a few that broke in half.

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Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6223102
04/21/18 12:42 PM
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The best way I've found to strengthen the springs is to put 1 1/2 springs inside the #5. They can be either new or old. They fit perfectly. I tack welded them, just don't get them too hot. Works great.


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Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #6223183
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That's the best way.

You can also cut pipe segments and force them Into the spring end and tack them In place.


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Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: The Beav] #6224150
04/22/18 08:20 PM
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Thanks for the tips goldy and beav

Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #7170951
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Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #7172607
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I have some brigder #5 dls also. Fixing to order paws- I - trip pan system for them. I also use #5 coil too. Both are very good traps.

Re: Bridger #5 longspring traps [Re: scott k] #7174579
02/08/21 10:27 PM
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I have several #5 bridgers Dls and a couple dukes if i were to buy more I would buy dukes . They come center swiveled ,a pit style pan and are stronger

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