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100% agree Tweed....Fred Bear was a self promoter of his archery business, but I believe(just me)he did it in a tasteful way.. Fred loved archery and wanted everyone to enjoy the sport....
Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes...... Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
Re: I'm tired of turkeys, whitetail and bass
[Re: waggler]
#6219112 04/16/1812:48 PM04/16/1812:48 PM
There are some YT channels I follow that are all public land hunting and aren’t sponsored (Yet). Once they become infomercials I move on. The commercialization started with Rolland Martin and Jimmy Huston. Two of the biggest product (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) to ever walk. It just got worse form there. It’s been this way for more than 25 years. Where have you been?
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Re: I'm tired of turkeys, whitetail and bass
[Re: waggler]
#6219114 04/16/1812:51 PM04/16/1812:51 PM
I don't mind Stan Potts' over the top reactions, it's genuine emotion. Not my style but I get it.
What I don't like is walking down the aisles at the industry trade shows and seeing the companies signing the latest and greatest pretty face girl in tight camo pants, when some guys have worked hard for years to deliver good return on investment only to see the company they helped build start shipping paychecks to a blonde who hardly knows which end of an arrow to put the broadhead on. Hunting shows are just getting cheap and I'm not against women hunting at all, I'm just against the lack of good content. If all you're watching outdoor TV shows for is to see a pretty girl hunting, it's not sustainable and these companies are starting to find out that if they want to get a good return on investment, they better start spending their money on the shows that educate and entertain the masses. We need more hunters, especially skilled hunters that don't give us a black eye in the public like a lot of these yahoos and their bad English and their bad advice on these shows today.
It will correct itself, and the companies along with the stations and shows who understand how to have longevity will survive.
I have no problem with some of them. Am entertained very, very little but watch occasionally but very rarely from start to finish. Lee and Tiffany are OK, Lee put in his time and made a gamble in life to quit a great paying job to pursue his passion. Good for him. With the success came the sponsors and with that came the dollars to buy primo farms in a super state. He now has great properties to hunt and is afforded the opportunity to do it full time, so on top of being a good hunter he can work on it 365 days a year. Good for him but not reality for most of us. T got turned off at an outdoor show when Waddell was there and people were lined up for 100 yards for his autograph, SAY WHAT? What the heck are you gonna do with that and why would you waste one second of your life waiting to get it? My buddy bought a video of name escapes me but a hottie and was excited she signed it. I said who the heck cares, you wasted your money and your time.
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Re: I'm tired of turkeys, whitetail and bass
[Re: BernieB.]
#6219146 04/16/1801:24 PM04/16/1801:24 PM
Had to turn that off after about 15 seconds to avoid hurling on my computer screen.
I couldn't stand her either but just to clarify, no one on this board is her target audience. Tweed said his daughter watched her and that is great. Young women need another woman to show them hunting. I applaud her efforts because she will probably do more to recruit hunter than most of us.
waggler - Check out Randy Newberg on youtube. He seems to be genuine and an actual hunter, not a personality designed for a show.
Clark
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -Albert Einstein
Re: I'm tired of turkeys, whitetail and bass
[Re: waggler]
#6219162 04/16/1801:45 PM04/16/1801:45 PM
Fnt has a show on the persuit chanell called freedom outdoors. I have watched it a couple times and was pritty good. I haven't seen it on lately tho I wonder if they cancelled it?
Re: I'm tired of turkeys, whitetail and bass
[Re: waggler]
#6219190 04/16/1802:23 PM04/16/1802:23 PM
Had a friend who met Stan Potts while they were BOTH on DIY archery hunts in Illinois. He said Stan was a genuine great guy with a love for deer hunting. They still correspond to this day.
My buddy killed a 130 and Stan came over to see it and was ecstatic for him. Said everything about Stan was genuine.
Re: I'm tired of turkeys, whitetail and bass
[Re: waggler]
#6219253 04/16/1804:25 PM04/16/1804:25 PM
The Hunting Public and Dan Infalt's "The Hunting Beast" are both good youtube channels that are down to earth, informative, and non-commercialized...so far. You can learn more from watching 5 mins of Dan Infalt that you can a decade from any of the scripted and post edited crap on paid tv.
ol'dad
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Re: I'm tired of turkeys, whitetail and bass
[Re: Clark]
#6219260 04/16/1804:36 PM04/16/1804:36 PM
I don't mind Stan Potts' over the top reactions, it's genuine emotion. Not my style but I get it.
What I don't like is walking down the aisles at the industry trade shows and seeing the companies signing the latest and greatest pretty face girl in tight camo pants, when some guys have worked hard for years to deliver good return on investment only to see the company they helped build start shipping paychecks to a blonde who hardly knows which end of an arrow to put the broadhead on. Hunting shows are just getting cheap and I'm not against women hunting at all, I'm just against the lack of good content. If all you're watching outdoor TV shows for is to see a pretty girl hunting, it's not sustainable and these companies are starting to find out that if they want to get a good return on investment, they better start spending their money on the shows that educate and entertain the masses. We need more hunters, especially skilled hunters that don't give us a black eye in the public like a lot of these yahoos and their bad English and their bad advice on these shows today.
It will correct itself, and the companies along with the stations and shows who understand how to have longevity will survive.
The Blonds on these shows now, hunt and kill their own animals,not a one of the Female hunters are or act fake. Potts is Not exhibiting anything real... Totally put on performance! I disagree with your take on it all...I raised 4 kids, 3 daughters and two out of 3 hunt so does my Son. I think the women are good for the industry.
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Re: I'm tired of turkeys, whitetail and bass
[Re: waggler]
#6219313 04/16/1806:40 PM04/16/1806:40 PM
I hate hearing them say " Oh I made a perfect shot, it don't get no more perfect than that" as the deer is running away to be found the next day. I don't like the ego involved most of all. Most look like they stepped out of a catalog too with all their new equipment. Ive been wearing the same camo sweater for about 10 years now.
If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
Re: I'm tired of turkeys, whitetail and bass
[Re: waggler]
#6219326 04/16/1807:03 PM04/16/1807:03 PM
I don't mind Stan Potts' over the top reactions, it's genuine emotion. Not my style but I get it.
What I don't like is walking down the aisles at the industry trade shows and seeing the companies signing the latest and greatest pretty face girl in tight camo pants, when some guys have worked hard for years to deliver good return on investment only to see the company they helped build start shipping paychecks to a blonde who hardly knows which end of an arrow to put the broadhead on. Hunting shows are just getting cheap and I'm not against women hunting at all, I'm just against the lack of good content. If all you're watching outdoor TV shows for is to see a pretty girl hunting, it's not sustainable and these companies are starting to find out that if they want to get a good return on investment, they better start spending their money on the shows that educate and entertain the masses. We need more hunters, especially skilled hunters that don't give us a black eye in the public like a lot of these yahoos and their bad English and their bad advice on these shows today.
It will correct itself, and the companies along with the stations and shows who understand how to have longevity will survive.
The Blonds on these shows now, hunt and kill their own animals,not a one of the Female hunters are or act fake. Potts is Not exhibiting anything real... Totally put on performance! I disagree with your take on it all...I raised 4 kids, 3 daughters and two out of 3 hunt so does my Son. I think the women are good for the industry.
I know these people personally. Obviously you do not.
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Re: I'm tired of turkeys, whitetail and bass
[Re: BernieB.]
#6219430 04/16/1809:11 PM04/16/1809:11 PM
[quote=BernieB I know these people personally. Obviously you do not. [/quote] Thank god I don't He's an obvious "I, I, I" self promoter Way over the top. And Women in this industry are generally Good overall. You Bernie seem to have an account to grind about Women on the outdoors, that's your choice, your beef. My oppinion is mine that's how I see it;yours is yours.
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Re: I'm tired of turkeys, whitetail and bass
[Re: Tweed]
#6219466 04/16/1809:50 PM04/16/1809:50 PM
I was watching one of those Texas "hunts" They kept talking about waiting for the deer to come out onto the senderos. It looked like real thick cover except for the bush hog straight aways in front of the elevated box stands. Judging from the way the deer were scarfing down all of that corn, I am guessing "sendero" is Spanish for "bait pile". Or maybe, "bush hog trail".