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#6218802 - 04/16/18 12:10 AM Tanned a Few Furs
bfisch Online   content
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Registered: 01/03/14
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Loc: AK
Well I have been reading a lot of the how to tan and tanning posts and gave it another try. I had previously tanned a few beaver using the orange bottle solution and the conclusion I came to was-
1) Don't try beaver first if you have never tanned a hide before
2) Don't overlook or underdo the thinning of the hide (especially on beaver)

This time I used Trubond 1000B and am quite pleased with the results. I also started with some easier hides (tame rabbit and wild mink).



All were tanned with Trubond 1000B except the mink on the far right. The female mink was done with the orange bottle tanning solution and turned out just as soft as the others though the leather seemed slightly off colored.



The rabbit leather was a brilliant white color and was nice and buttery. I did learn that I did to be gentle when working with rabbits. They are not as tough as beaver. The mink were nice and soft. I am not sure what caused the one mink hide to be slightly yellow (tanned with Trubond). Maybe some residual fat yellowed it. I had stretched and dried them last November and just tanned them.


Had a problem with the mink hair coming through the leather side. Any ideas why? Did not happen with the female tanned with the orange bottle tan.

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#6218931 - 04/16/18 08:11 AM Re: Tanned a Few Furs [Re: bfisch]
Boco Offline
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Registered: 08/08/11
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Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
Early skin-Mink should be pickled with the saddle on then peel off the saddle by hand before the actual tan.Scraping off the saddles on mink,especially earlier mink,can cause the hairs to pull thru like that.That is why mink should be handled like rats-with the saddles on.
Nice job on the tanning.


Edited by Boco (04/16/18 08:12 AM)

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#6218935 - 04/16/18 08:15 AM Re: Tanned a Few Furs [Re: bfisch]
TheBig1 Offline
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Registered: 12/12/17
Posts: 117
Loc: Kingston, PA
They look great Brother! I'll be following this for my own info. I've never done it before either. Heck, I have to go look up what a "Saddle" is. LOL

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#6219262 - 04/16/18 03:45 PM Re: Tanned a Few Furs [Re: bfisch]
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Boco- I did take the saddles off prior to stretching. I thought I would be saving myself the hassle of doing it during the tanning process, but I guess it hurt me in the end. I wonder why it didn't happen when I used the orange bottle tan. Could it be because that process does not involve a pickle?

Big1- Thanks! The saddle is a thin membrane of muscle like tissue on the back of an animal that usually come off attached to the skin when skinning. See picture below (not my picture or put up)


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#6219269 - 04/16/18 04:02 PM Re: Tanned a Few Furs [Re: bfisch]
Boco Offline
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It wont happen on all skins.It is more prevalent on early caught animals,or skins just coming on to prime.
On early skins I will peel the saddles off with my fingers either during the rehydration soak,or during/after the pickle.


Edited by Boco (04/16/18 04:07 PM)

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#6219323 - 04/16/18 05:56 PM Re: Tanned a Few Furs [Re: bfisch]
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Registered: 12/12/17
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Loc: Kingston, PA
Thanks Bfisch, I appreciate it

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#6220086 - 04/17/18 04:51 PM Re: Tanned a Few Furs [Re: bfisch]
ShawneeMan Offline
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Registered: 08/10/15
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Loc: IL - Shawnee Ntl Forest
I tried two beavers this year for my first attempt at tanning...
As bfisch said - don't try beavers for your first project! LOL!
All I can say is THIN the leather or it will never work!
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#6220195 - 04/17/18 07:46 PM Re: Tanned a Few Furs [Re: bfisch]
yukon254 Offline
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Registered: 12/31/08
Posts: 1618
Loc: Yukon
They look great. The yellow color on the mink is likely from the fat. Did you de-grease them? They look really good. The hair can come through if you thin them to thin, did you sand them?

They look nice and soft, that Trubond is great stuff. Its not always possible, but if you have fur you know you're going to tan, dont dry them. Just flesh and freeze. They tan a LOT easier. A trick I've learned with beaver is that they must be completely re-hydrated before they go in the pickle, and leave them in the pickle a long time...like 10-days or longer. I just rehydrated one the other day, and I left it in the re-hydration bath for almost 2-days.
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#6221366 - 04/19/18 01:05 AM Re: Tanned a Few Furs [Re: bfisch]
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Registered: 01/03/14
Posts: 166
Loc: AK
I used the Lipa-solve 77 to degrease and citric acid for the pickle. I did not sand them. I was wondering if freezing green skins wouldn't be the better way to go. I think I will freeze them next year. It seems it would help to prevent slippage because there is no rehydration step.

I still don't understand the pickle. Why would you want beaver in for so long as opposed to a shorter time? Is it all about degreasing?

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