I haven't owned one in prolly 20 yrs. do people still use them ? Anyone have a recommendation

Gonna take a quick road trip to Reno this weekend

It's about a 7 1/2 to 8 hr trip

My record is 6 hrs 10 min

God's radar is always watching, even on lonely stretches of highway. He doesnt cotton to speeders.

thow shall not speed ain't part of the ten commandments ........so I'm good

They Don't Have Radar Detectors Any More.

They Have Ticket Alarms.

When You Hear & See Your Alarm Go Off, It's Announcing That You Are About To Get A Ticket !!

Dang Things Are No Longer Effective Since They Came Out With Laser-Type Instant Radar.

w

So you'll put everybody else's families at risk trying to beat a personal record?

Pretty much worthless these days, radar is way too good for them..

They don't work as well with today's radar unit's. I love them, I confiscate everyone I see when I stop someone for speeding who has one. It's amazing how many disappear as you approach a vehicle.
Really funny.

B

Thanx guys , I think I'll just roll without one if they're not that effective . Looks like they are several hundred dollars .

I haven't had a ticket in close to 20 yrs .

Not much traffic on my route , with a lot of open desert . Just roll it on till you see a car / possible smokey

back when I drove around in a service van early mid 90s , you would see lights flashed by another tech in a service van and you knew to check your speed and look for the cop.

now I don't think anyone even understands what it means when you flash your lights. my personal vehicle looks like a service truck yet , white F150 with a ladder rack and a truck number because it is a retired service truck.

with the new laser speed detection it is on for a fraction of a second then off again and it doesn't emit the same radiation so really not effective any more.

I don't speed hardly ever , I like to be the least exciting thing on the road , a speeding ticket is a waste of money that could have been spent on a new gun or traps.

Not in Texas, bud.

What State your from doesn't matter in Missouri!!!!!

Drive careful. Bud

B

I made your post more truthful.

Radar detectors are legal in Missouri in passenger cars so if you are confiscating them FlyingFinn is correct, theft is theft if done buy the police or some scumbag.
Valentine is the best but cost may be higher then the fine.

I used to drive way to fast and put myself and others in danger. I am not proud of that. I have slowed down as I have aged and in 10 years or so I can see me being the guy I complained about in my younger years. Just remember you are not the only one allowed the privilege to drive the road.

Save the racing for the track.

Get some body in the airforce to build you a jammer

NO HE DIDN"T

Radar jammers are illegal in Missouri, Illinois, and all 50 states. Drivers of commercial motor vehicles are not allowed to use radar detectors, radar jammers, or laser jammers in Missouri, Illinois, or any other state.
I didn't say passenger cars!!!!!!!

Have a nice day.

B

I have one in my truck and it's saved me tickets. No matter how good the radar,if they are checking others a head of you you will pick it up way ahead of time before they get you and you can slow down. I don't speed a lot any way it's mainly for the pecker head that wants to hand out tickets for 5 or 6 miles over the posted speed.

Question Officer Barnes,

As A Law Enforcment Officer,

How Do You Detect If Someone Is Deploying A Radar Jammer In Their Vehicle ?

Do You Have Radar Jammer Detection Devices, and Do You Have Probable Cause To Search For Said Jamming Devices If You Detect Them, And Do You Need A Warrant To Search A Vehicle For Suspected Radar Jammers ?

w

Most police are good honest people, others have brain issues and the big me little you syndrome. Pull that we me and you will be working at Burger King.

I personally love this one. If I had a nickel for everytime some "Legal expert" or some butthurt brat told me he would have my job, I'd been retired on a beach somewhere long ago. And somedays I think Burger king wouldn't be all that bad.

And No....I sure aint afraid lawsuites. Been through plenty...and never lost one. And made a boat load of money winning them in Overtime. Now I try to convince the crybabies to sue me. Or at least complain.

Back to the topic: There are places in the desert I'd sure hope nobody would bother you no matter how fast you were traveling. Unless you were endangering someone else of course.

My reference was to radar detectors and being called a Thief. So I copied and posted how the Missouri Statue reads which includes Jammers. I'm sorry if it offended someone who didn't know what they were talking about.

Catching speeders is not rocket science and there's enough of them that Jammers are not a concern.




B

Mr. Peterson got it right.
I have a Bell, don't use it in my big trk illegal. I do use it on long trips in my pickup for reason stated above. It also let's me know if there's a wreck ahead, if the cops are there.

Calvin

So true, but it always seems like it's on my day off when I want to go fishing or hunting!!!!




Stay safe

B

Agree

I will remain extemmely focused on the entire trip and only push it on long open stretches , I'm not about to endanger my family or others.

Theft is theft, whether the mafia in suits at the state Capitol say it's OK or not. God watches thieves and doesn't cotton to them either. Same as speeders.

Matthew 5

9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

B

Anti, your from around Bend correct? What route you planning on? Just wondering

I may be slow but I am in front of you.....

Due to this thread, the route is going to be staked out this weekend, and they’ll be waiting to hit you with a 40 mph over ticket and/or ride carpool to the station.



Just kidding, law enforcement doesn’t read message boards or act on tips reported from them.....





Psych !

Since radar technology has advanced, the time has come for a smart phone app updated in real time by motorists of police locations. The info is collected and disseminated to other app users in an x mile radius. If I were smart enough to make an app for this I'd be a millionaire.

hasn't someone invented a Radar Jammer?

There’s one out there. Want me to send it to ya ?

Jammers can be detected typically only on a suspicion that every time you see a vehicle and try to clock its speed on radar it gives off erratic readings. Most people leave them sitting on their dash. Anybody who wants to search a vehicle for a suspected radar jammer is a loon, especially where jammers are very uncommon. The penalty (usually traffic ticket) isn't worth searching for the evidence.

Radar detectors, most people leave them on their dash. Plain view doctrine in that case so yeah, you can seize it as evidence to a crime.

If you're in any state and committing a crime you can confiscate evidence of the crime, it's not "stealing" just because it is legal where you are coming from. Say it is legal for somebody to drive drunk in their home state and they cross state lines with beer they purchased at home. That beer and they can be seized for evidence of drunk driving. You aren't "stealing" their beer and themselves just because they began their adventure where it was legal.

Oh, it's stealing. It's just licensed.

Can't hide from the "Bear in the Air".

Haha bear in the air. Haven't heard that since the C.B. radio days.
If speeding tickets amounted to anything more than revenue collection and job security the government would have put a .97 cent computer chip in cars by mandate to limit speed to that decreed by the know-better-than-yous.

Same with DUI Finn or any other infraction that calls for losing a license. No one quits driving. The various branchs of govt and LE just get ever increasing fines. If anyone really thought the person losing license was a danger they would be in jail.

I think WAZE is one of those apps that let ppl put in speed traps.

A DWI is not an infraction, it's a Misdemeanor or a Felony depending on how many prior DWI's you have. I don't know of any infraction that cause's you to loose your license.



B

Cobra is a good one but the new accident avoidance accessory they are putting on cars drives the cobra nuts.

Speeding to excess is an 'infraction' that will lead to loss of license.

WRONG AGAIN


Loss of points on your license due to traffic violations causes you to loose your license not Speeding. Speeding is a Misdemeanor not an infraction. Infraction carry no jail time. In our Court System if you are caught going over the posted speed limit by 25mph or more it is mandatory 48 hour jail sentence plus a fine.


B

how can speeding be a misdemeanor when traffic rules are regulations and not laws?

Yep , about 30 minutes north of bend .

I like to run the Lakeview route . Less traffic and fewer towns

My brother left today and he will run the Klamath Falls route . More towns with more options for food and bathrooms. Also more traffic. But he has younger children ( Girls )

I always tell him the more you stop the longer it takes . The longer it takes the more you stop . The more you stop the longer it takes .

His trip today took 8.5 hrs

Dad in the hospital again so ..............

Government Mish mouthed B.S.

Answer; do you sell the stolen goods out of state to fund a pizza party?

Hey Flynn

Why don't you post a copy of your Degree for us to see. You know the one you got from Roadside Attorney's R Us.com




B

No degree needed. MA said don't steal, so I don't.

nvwrangler , I knew a guy who made the trip in the early 80's in his 69 GTO 400 4spd . Bend to Reno in under 5 hrs

WAY less population and traffic in those days

Here you will for going 31 over the limit, so i agree with Finn on this one.

https://www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/DVSPubsForms/BDL/BDL%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ps.pdf

MA never mentioned saloons or whorehouses.

You can bet the police drive over 31 miles over speed limit, that's different. There a lot of good police and from what I am reading there in Texas. Now stop writing and go to work, leave the working man alone and we will continue to pay you, we are your boss.

The app is called Waze and works 👍

Waze is the oregon trail version of the app in my head.

Imagine if we had a tracker on all of our vehicles out and about. The downside would be the app would work about as well as OBamacare or the drivers license office of Minnesota. Be better off reading about it in the newspaper.

Radarbot

A guy takes his shotgun and murders his wife and children, then flees the state continually killing people as he goes about his business. When he is arrested then by your logic we are to only photograph the weapon he used and not seize it for evidence and further testing because that would be stealing. No fingerprints, no DNA testing, no GSR testing, ballistics, etc. It's fine though, we have a photo of the gun and he can have it back while he awaits his trial, possibly out on bail.

I dont use a Radar detector, but I think Putting gas in Cop Cars and paying cops to pull people over is a waste of My tax dollars , Quite Frankly sick of it. Shouldnt be a speed limit... Drive reasonable Enough Said...

Most thieves justify. You don't have to agree with me. It is, afterall, my view. Just keep stealing till it feels dirty, I guess.

Your hypothetical scenario isn't even comparable. Murder is a real crime,speeding/using a radar detector are NOT. Cops are out of control these days. They can charge folks with whatever they want and get away with it. They are not even obligated to protect the public any more. They have turned into armed revenue collectors that our tax dollars pay for. I can't understand why anyone would agree to such b.s. It's no longer (protect and serve) now it's to (irritate and harass).

Perfect example: A guy i know had a car stolen by an x business partner. We showed the cops where the car is in his garage and all proof it is not his. They say it's a civil matter and can't do anything. Can't recover a stolen vehicle but can pull me over, steal my property and search my truck with out a warrant. By all means continue to harass and steal from people on our dollars. A little off topic but the truth.

With many western states now allowing up to 75-80 mph and most other states 70 mph and many jurisdiction giving at least 5 mph over the limit you don’t need a radar device. When I see a person getting a speeding ticket on a 80 mph speed limit highway, the individual must have really been moving and deserves it. High rate of speeding kills.

I think we all get that Grandpa.

But there is a stretch through the desert from Vegas to 29 Palms that I've driven a few times. 55 mph if I remember right. Not a house for 100 miles in places it seemed to me. Been told not to drive too fast there as patrolled. I sure don't get that one, but hey..it IS Calif...or the majority of it... so maybe we should feel lucky we don't have to ride our 10 speeds through there.

Danny, that will likely change from state to state. They're state laws here. Petty misd for speeding but can easily get bumped up into "careless" or "reckless" driving if driving like a nut...and those are Misdemeanors (Here anyhow). Next state over...who knows?

The rules of evidence aren't comparable between murder and a vehicle search? They cover all criminal violations, so yeah they are comparable.

You've radicalized the argument

So if I jaywalk they can confiscate my shoes?

Mike

Gotta star on MA car and one on my chest, gun on MA hip and the right to steal all your ship.

I have never taken a radar detector but I can promise you they didn't get a warning. funny to watch the speeding vehicle go from 85 to 55 with the front bumper darn near on the road surface. They aren't illegal here but it is prima fascia evidence of ones intent to travel above the posted speed limits. I just write the ticket and tell them to pull that screaming thing out from under their seat. The smart thing about operating a radar when conducting traffic enforcement is to leave the darn thing on hold. If you have gone through the radar training school you get real good at judging vehicle speeds both sitting stationary and running moving radar. Wait until they separate from traffic or if they are the only vehicle and hit the activate switch, that's when the bumper drags the pavement.

I don't get out on the street much anymore so there is no chance of me writing a citation. I do have to go out to all fatality scenes per policy. You may can control your vehicle at 100 mph but you cant control those external variables that will end your life real quick and fast when doing so.

I seem to get warnings or just flashing lights when I brake for cops when speeding. You know, stroking your ego.

[quote=FlyinFinn]Gotta star on MA car and one on my chest, gun on MA hip and the right to steal all your ship. [/quote

I see you failed poetry and hip hop at the same time. But on a positive note you have sheep dip down pat.

B

I have one and I don't speed. It keeps me from speeding, when I am not paying attention. I would like it better if you asked instead of told them to take it form under their seat. Of course they could just not answer you and leave it there.

I don't have a problem with traffic regulation enforcement. I make a living driving and the job is tough even with enforcement. Lots and lots of drivers out there with no judgement of what's safe at all. I wouldn't care but their inability to maintain a speed, maintain a lane, or even signal a turn or lane change, endangers every one on the road with them.

What chaps my but is the stolen car story. "It's a civil mater" translated to English means "I'm lazy and don't want to do my job".

Wife was in the local convenience store talking to the clerk who is a friend of hers. Scam artist handed her a fake credit card and got a pump turned on. Clerk noticed it was fake when he drove off. My wife followed him. Called in a tag and location, direction and description. She was told to quit following. She didn't. Kept telling dispatch where they were and asking where the deputies were. This went on for about 20 minutes before she quit following. Driver was never even questioned let alone arrested. So now you know why you stand in line twice to fill your vehicle if paying with cash.

Burglary is treated the same. No investigation. Just a police report so you can file an insurance claim.

Police priorities have changed over the years and not for the better IMO.

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I as well. Most time its not used locally. On a long trip it keeps me from speeding. Then there's the cruise control helps.

Made it. 6hrs 2 min

Last 70 miles was fuzzy with revenue generators

Glad ya got there ok Gov, best wishes for your Dad and all your family.

Thanx Catch

Danny, It's not always what the cop wants to do but CAN do. Cops have bosses that often time dictate how things are done. This includes political beings, city and county attorneys (that will dictate what gets charged...or Not,

Nobody getting into a chase over a gas drive off. About all gas stations have surveillance now anyhow so they already know who it is. Most bigger companies have a "team" designated to handle their loss and prosecution (and yes, many states attorneys consider this "civil"). Police are forbidden to get involved with "civil law".
Same things "should" occur over a "stolen car" most times (but don't). A lot of guys will chase a stolen to the ends of the earth. When you pull dead kids out of a Stolen (property crime...$50 fine in many cities) you get a different perspective of what you are doing (hopefully). Was it really worth this guy t boning a minivan over a "citation" (in many locations)????

Depending on the agency, most all burglaries are triaged to some point. Simply put, usually more burglaries than investigators to handle them (locations differs of course). So, it will depend on the Loss and any chance of catching them (evidence etc). Some, it's very easy to tell there is nothing to go on (or prosecutable (attorneys call)...so yeah, it becomes a report for your insurance. But of course, and with life, you will get people who are just lazy....And That happens too.

These little scenarios can go on and on and on...but always a "bigger picture" involved that what most see on the surface.

And NO...I sure don't like the direction its going either. But most times these calls aren't made by the patrolman....good or bad, I guess.

There is no bigger picture beyond the FACT that those things used to be a priority and now they are not. I don't really care what excuses are being bandied about. Want to know why so many have a low opinion of LE? That is a biggy. Add in stuff like the cop in Wichita not being prosecuted or identified for killing an unarmed man, in his own home, and YOU will start to see the "bigger picture".

See what I get for trying to explain 20 years of street experience (at night) to a guy holed up on a computer?

Get outside...You'll feel better.

Good day, Sir.

What could be more of a civil matter than a domestic dispute? But they'll roll 2 cruisers for one of those.

Mike

The local police here take the low hanging fruit, seat belts, speeding and DUIs. Get robbed, you better be able to solve it yourself. Drugs takes a task force of many Gov. agencies when every high school kid knows who sells drugs.

Selective policing, nice...

Calvin get a clue. Read my post. Believe it or not gas drive offs and burglary used to be things LE concerned themselves with. One benefit was prepay gas stations were non existent. Prepay started when LE decided to quit going after thieves so the problem accelerated. Burglary too was a crime LE was interested in. Not just the big stuff but a tool box stole out of an open door garage even. Now an officer gets annoyed if you expect something done about those things. Your attitude stinks. Do your job. Go after thieves.

I didn't think his attitude was bad . Kinda told it how it is . Which sucks .

Spot on.

Calvin only told you the truth.
Want these crimes followed thru with, hire more cops. That will go over like a fart in Sunday school.

The police have a very tough job, many of these problems go to the way parents have raised their children. The liberal laws make it hard for a person to protect what's there's and if they do may end up in jailed or sued. The same goes for the police as we have seen on the news lately.
With that said, a person needs to understand their rights and not knowing them is your own fault.

For a long time, I've lived and worked around a small municipality that regularly issued around 1,000 tickets/per resident/per year. We have been #1 in the state for citations per residents issued by a long, long margin. I've had a radar detector continuously sitting on my dash for more than a couple decades.

Good detectors cost more than $100. There is little difference between low end detectors. If you're looking to spend under $100 bill know up front that you are getting what you paid for. Frankly, cheap detectors are not worth owning. Cheap detectors lump K band and Ka band together.

Highest rated radar detector for years was the Escort 8500 X50 (discontinued). Since replaced by the Escort X80. https://www.stealthveil.com/best-radar-detector-reviews-2018-top-rated-radar-detectors
We have old model Escort X50 in all of the family vehicles.

Escort allows you to turn bands off/on and displays band being detected on the screen.
Leave POP off, POP is known to give faulty speed readings and there are only a couple small areas in the country that use POP radar. Turn X band off, X band is from the 1940's. Very few agencies run antiquated X band and it produces false alerts in urban areas.
Ka band is always an officer collecting revenue. Every time. There are no false Ka readings.
Laser- hope the officer lights someone up in front of you.
K band- K band could be an officer or it could be a false alarm. If you put competing radar detector brands on a roadway, Cobra & Escort will detect each other and give false K band alarms.
Run "Highway" mode all of the time.

In wide open areas, a good detector will pick up a radar up to seven miles away. So far away that you'll think it's acting up and giving a false reading. In tighter areas with terrain, they give you time but the distance is significantly reduced.
When you get pulled over with a detector, leave it on the dash. Police officers don't care any more or less if it's on the dash. Put it under the seat and you are a deceptive creep. Leave it and let it flash during the stop but hit the mute button.

In my lifetime, I've been pulled over three times without the use of radar/laser that I'm aware of. In each of those cases, I would have been cited if there wasn't a radar detector sitting quietly on the dash. One claimed to visually estimate my speed. One claimed to "pace" me after seeing the detector. One I mistook for a road rage aggressor rather than an officer. In all three of these cases, there wasn't cause for the original traffic stop.

IMHO laser should not be legal for traffic enforcement. If I was to point a laser at motorists I'd be charged. I don't want a laser pointed at my face for any reason. A hundred dollar citation shouldn't be worth my eye sight.

Around here, friends and family of police officers get a bear sticker to display in their rear window. These are color coded stickers used to aid in selective enforcement. While I am not anti cop, this rubs me the wrong way.


It's a Washington state thing.

I figure that at 65 MPH overall moving average with one gas station stop. Probably 80 while on the highway. Sound about right?

Looks like the Uniden R3 is the top shelf detector now. https://www.vortexradar.com/2017/06/uniden-r1-uniden-r3-radar-detector-review/

I have been on that run.... There's more nowhere there than in nowhere. Mining for Sheetrock mix if that's what it was is the only thing down there.

Osky