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Stretching required? #6218069
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Once a person has finished fleshing a furbearer (such as an otter), is stretching it a requirement, or can a person just get it tanned right away.

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I think I would salt it after fleshing if I was gonna tan it. Set the hair that way. Hopefully, someone with more experience will chime in soon.


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Call the tannery.


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If your tanning it yourself,you can put the skin right into the pickle after fleshing.
If you are shipping to a fur dresser,board and dry the skin.


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After fleshing, the pelt will have to be preserved in some way - stretching/drying or salting.

Most tanneries accept pelts either way.

If you are tanning it yourself, following the instructions that come with the kit or method you are using.


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Good info thus far. Thanks! Snowed in, I'm working to finish my otter. I tried calling GNF yesterday, as that's where I'm sending it, but forgot they don't work weekends.
The website mentions a 2 part salting process as 1 option... Salt it once, let it sit for a day or 2 & do the salt process 1 more time. I'm thinking I could send it in then. Salting may allow me to send it in quicker than stretching. If I stretch it, I wonder how long most people leave it stretched.
I'll re-read the website & see if I can come up with a resolution to finish it.
Beautiful hide on the 43" male.
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Don't stretch before tanning. Salt the hide to set the hair and resalt every 12 hours for 48. Then put in pickle for 3 days. Keep ph below 2. You can take it or and shave after 24 then return for another 48. Take out of pickle and neutralize with baking soda to a ph of 5 for 30 mins. Apply tan and wait 24 hours. Rinse well then drip dry to damp. Apply oil with brush and begin stretching

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Since your not tanning It yourself I would think that salting It would allow you to fold up the hide and make It easier to ship.
I called them the other day about a mink I'm having tanned. I asked If It was Ok to fold It up. They said It wouldn't hurt a thing.

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I have a guy who buys all my coyotes to send in and have tanned. Surprisingly he does very little fleshing, more or less just gets the big chunks off then on to the stretcher. Says that the tanning company will shave them down to uniform thickness and that fleshing the way we are told to do is more for long term storage. Seen some of the tanned hides and they do look nice!


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Interesting, scout.

It'd be neat to see how these tannery's operate.

I was reading GNF's website today, and it says to RUB with non iodized salt. I don't know why it should be 'NON-iodized.' By 'rub,' I assume that means just shake and rub a good consistent coating of salt, and kind of 'work it in' as best I can.

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Originally Posted By: The Beav
Call the tannery.
I called GNF the other day. They are a great bunch to do business with.

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I went the salting route. Otter is looking good. Not quite ready to send in yet. Being that I'm doing the salting procedure, I don't need to stretch it, per se, as if its going to auction, but I do need to at least 'stretch' it out so it's not moist. They said to ensure a person doesn't send it in wet! And they told me how to rub the salt in...just use my hands and rub it in really good, then aggresively sprinkle more on for good measure. Pack the ears with salt. After 12-24 hours (tonight), get as much salt off as possible. Resalt any damp areas as necessary (with new salt). Tomorrow night, remove as much salt as possible and 'hang' til it dries, then carefully fold it in half or thirds and send it in.
Oh,I asked him about the non iodized salt. He said he didn't know the science behind it, but that iodine can cause problems.
The face was the wettest area tonight, followed by the tail. Thats a quik informal synopsis kinda, of what I did.

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This is from Moyles Mink & Tannery site...

1.Be sure skins are thoroughly fleshed and salt dried before shipping.
(Furbearers for intact fur dressing may be sent trapper dried.)
WE DO NOT ACCEPT FRESH OR FROZEN SKINS.
Do not forget to split and dry the tail!
2.Skins must be completely dry upon receipt or you risk spoilage. Damp salted hides will spoil in storage or shipping.
3.Taxidermy specimens must have all lips and ears turned, tails split, and paws fleshed out.
4.Dry all capes and mounts with the ears folded down toward the center of the cape. This will help prevent them from being damaged during shipping.
5.Fold all skins into pieces smaller than 4 ft. x 4 ft. or they will not fit in our storage bins.

For more info: http://www.moytown.com/resources.html#preptips


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Thanks for the information.


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Every tannery seems to emphasize not sending it in moist. Makes sense. I guess I'll try to err on the safe side and dry it more than I think it needs to be. Could be a slight judgement call perhaps on my part. Hmmm.

Good info from Moyles.

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Salt dried pelts could be dry as a bone when you ship them and could wind up at the tannery damp or even wet.
Salt is Hygroscopic and will draw moisture from the air if it is in a humid environment anytime during shipping.


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Interesting Boco. I remember salting my fisher last year. It dried good (I thought), but then we got some warmer humid weather and the pelt did what you described. I hadn't sent it off to be tanned yet though.

I think maybe some tanneries check their orders in faster than others.

I have to think about how thorough I should be at removing as much salt as possible from this otter.

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