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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6228915
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I did a great deal of the initial testing for the old con cuff when them, duffers and the egg trap were the main dp’s On the market. Unless they where pinned down sold or completely covered with sticky/clay soil coon would just dig/pull them out and toss them to the side. My best luck with them was when I pinned them into a tall tomato juice can and baited with a loud fish bait. I caught 500 coon in January using 3 dozen traps one winter using the can method. If you have any old trapper and predator caller mags around the coon cuff maker talked about my catch in his add.

In all the years the coniber has been around I have never heard of a1000 plus coon catch using strictly them. In the short history of the modern dp I know several guys that have caught 1000 plus coon using dp’s. Like I said if the price of coon even fakes like there might be life there will be an avalanche of coon.

Fun fact maybe 7-8 years ago when the coon market was pretty good, not even the crazy good years of 2013-14 I gave away 100 dozen duke dp’s to customers and made my money back probably 5x’s with coon that came back.

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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6229210
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An auger in a cordless drill and a coon cuff is hard to beat for simple and fast. Some stinky fish in the hole. Drop in trap. Cover rim with a bit of dirt. Lure. Tieoff and gone

Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6229364
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I’m going to try burying some DPs this fall. My sense is coon will work the holes as they go dirt holes. By then I should have photobucket figured out.

Last week I got a couple 2.25 inch opening DPs and will try them for mink. Rumor has it they worked well.


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6229369
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The guy who made the coon cuff also made an enclosed mink trap like a bigger coon cuff. I believe me and Gerald Schmidt where the only people to ever use them. They did work but if there are any coin around they will clean them out


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6229440
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Actually, these bigger DPs were made to see if they would work for fox, with a push-pull trigger. I’m waiting to hear if they’ve worked for that.


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: The Beav] #6229484
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
So since the fresh dirt thing has come up. Will a coon dig out a DP that has been buried In pocket set or how ever you bury It? If so with that DP laying on the ground will It still catch that coon. Or maybe a fox or coyote will dig It up then what.
Yes but for me most of the time it is red fox that digs them out.


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6229489
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Originally Posted By: Teacher
I’m going to try burying some DPs this fall. My sense is coon will work the holes as they go dirt holes. By then I should have photobucket figured out.

Last week I got a couple 2.25 inch opening DPs and will try them for mink. Rumor has it they worked well.


I am looking for a max 2 inch opening pull system.


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6230053
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Got any pictures of the these bigger opening dps? Where can I get one for my dp collection?


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: trapperne] #6230160
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Originally Posted By: trapperne
I did a great deal of the initial testing for the old con cuff when them, duffers and the egg trap were the main dp’s On the market. Unless they where pinned down sold or completely covered with sticky/clay soil coon would just dig/pull them out and toss them to the side. My best luck with them was when I pinned them into a tall tomato juice can and baited with a loud fish bait. I caught 500 coon in January using 3 dozen traps one winter using the can method. If you have any old trapper and predator caller mags around the coon cuff maker talked about my catch in his add.

In all the years the coniber has been around I have never heard of a1000 plus coon catch using strictly them. In the short history of the modern dp I know several guys that have caught 1000 plus coon using dp’s. Like I said if the price of coon even fakes like there might be life there will be an avalanche of coon.

Fun fact maybe 7-8 years ago when the coon market was pretty good, not even the crazy good years of 2013-14 I gave away 100 dozen duke dp’s to customers and made my money back probably 5x’s with coon that came back.


If we didn't have all these 24 hour BG checks In WI a 1000 coon In BGs per season wouldn't be a problem.
Dead and down Is the way to go.


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6230164
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Originally Posted By: Teacher
Actually, these bigger DPs were made to see if they would work for fox, with a push-pull trigger. I’m waiting to hear if they’ve worked for that.


Should they still be called, or considered a dp if trying to catch fox? Just asking


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6230571
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I visited Neil Ziegman at his shop in Iowa. He’d made up a bunch of the bigger DPs to see what else they’d catch. You could contact him to see if he’ll send you some.

RPMartin, that’s a good point.


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6230630
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Do some states have a size opening restriction on DPs? I can't find my WI regs but I thought we had a size opening restriction.
I found them 1 3/4" In Dia


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6230716
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I suppose burying the DP's has it's application given certain State regs. For me where I trap it would defeat the main purpose of the DP which is speed. I can put in a couple of DP's in a minute and be on my way down the road or river. Give me another minute or so and I can have them both on cable drowners. Like said above down and out is the way to go especially on public ground.

I doubt I could replicate my speed if I was burying them. I doubt I could match the speed of setting 1.5's blind on drowners burying them.

Maybe with a little practice?

It'll be something neat to try a bit on the line this season.


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6231379
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ShaneT I can make a bury set faster than I can put in a dirt hole with foot trap. I can't use foot holds in my state so I use the DP trap in it's place. I dig the hole and put the trap in it or dig a pocket and put the trap in it or make a mound set and put the trap. May take me 30 seconds longer. The bury sets are not used every time I set. I only use them to catch the 20% or to put them in places where there are people. Just like every method there are places and times to use them. If the trapper just wants to skim the top and move, catch what ever is going to get caught fast, then putting in an advanced DP set is a waste of time in many minds. And that is OK. The key for me is, do what ever I have to do to catch in any situation. Right for me maybe wrong for others.

Beav yes My state has a 2 inch max opening and a pull system only. I may not like it I would rather have a push pull system, but I have to learn to work with what I have and make it productive.

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Re: Burying DPs [Re: rpmartin] #6231401
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Originally Posted By: rpmartin
Should they still be called, or considered a dp if trying to catch fox? Just asking


Call 'em ETs (enclosed trigger) instead. They never were "dog proof" just marketed that way. Absolute dog proofing is determined by bait choice.

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Has anyone caught a canine In DP? I caught a few cats but never a canine.
You would think you would be able to catch grey fox In them.


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: Teacher] #6231433
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Greys can be caught in them and some red but most are little red.


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Re: Burying DPs [Re: The Beav] #6231510
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
Has anyone caught a canine In DP? I caught a few cats but never a canine.
You would think you would be able to catch grey fox In them.


They weren't caught by the paw.

Re: Burying DPs [Re: Muskrat] #6231640
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Originally Posted By: Muskrat
Originally Posted By: The Beav
Has anyone caught a canine In DP? I caught a few cats but never a canine.
You would think you would be able to catch grey fox In them.


They weren't caught by the paw.


Actually some were. I have several pictures of foxes, red and grey, and one coyote caught in DP traps.

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I could probably find a picture of Red Fox and Otter, very rare. Very common Skunk, Cat, Squirrel, using sweater type bait will almost eliminate the last three.

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