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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: fishermann222]
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04/05/18 02:00 PM
04/05/18 02:00 PM
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AK
FairbanksLS
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Never lost a critter in a belisle. Had a few bent over the last twenty five years. I'd contact the manufacturer and let them know.
formerly posting as white dog
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: fishermann222]
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04/16/18 01:35 PM
04/16/18 01:35 PM
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Saguenay,quebec,canada
Fergustrap 2
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Yes Belisle 330's trap are easy bend jaw after catch, and is not only recently, that's always do!! If is not the steel problem maybe is the design of the trap,without not gap between close single jaw is not a good idea... Sauvageau, LDL can absorb the shock with renforced jaw.I talk with traps maker and today is hard to not get steel from China only big mgf like boat or airplan and big contruction project like bridge.... can get the specific steel and where from it, but they paid for it at the end, trap industry is not airplan industry, most of trappers want paid cheaper as possible.
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: Fergustrap 2]
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04/16/18 02:19 PM
04/16/18 02:19 PM
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Yukon
yukon254
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Yes Belisle 330's trap are easy bend jaw after catch, and is not only recently, that's always do!! If is not the steel problem maybe is the design of the trap,without not gap between close single jaw is not a good idea... Sauvageau, LDL can absorb the shock with renforced jaw.I talk with traps maker and today is hard to not get steel from China only big mgf like boat or airplan and big contruction project like bridge.... can get the specific steel and where from it, but they paid for it at the end, trap industry is not airplan industry, most of trappers want paid cheaper as possible. Very true...cheap Chinese steel has been an issue for years now in all sorts of machinery. The steel in the Belisle traps seem to be softer than than the steel Sauvageau uses. That is likely the reason Sauvageau traps dont bend as easily and are more prone to breaking. Temper plays a role as well, but thats mostly in the springs. I know some aftermarket snow machine springs on the market now are pure junk because of the cheap Chinese steel and improper tempering.
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: fishermann222]
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04/16/18 04:33 PM
04/16/18 04:33 PM
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Ryan McLeod
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lol If you use a 330 Belisle for muskrat you must be a master at sewing  LOL yep  my thoughts exactly. Jurassic just so you know, we use them for wolverines and have caught many, without issue, until this new batch of 18 traps. purchased this fall. And while you can catch lynx in a 330, it is certainly not how we target lynx, I guess maybe that is what the Canadian BMP's tell you the 330 is for? Oh yeah. I use 330 for lynx and muskrat all the time. WITH a whole grouse wing as an attractor. Couldn't decide if I should use the tip or the middle so I used the whole thing.:)
If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: That Fool]
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04/18/18 07:06 AM
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Ronaround
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I bought one 330 belisle from my cousin, worked great for beaver, it bent though on the jaw this year on the last beaver. Had a pull out from the same trap So the question also leads to the thoughts with a feisty otter and his ability to bend and get free? Let alone a beaver.
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: Dirt]
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04/23/18 11:00 PM
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Beaver Bayou MN
Mike Kelly
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Superior traps are made of inferior steel?  Look at the bends on the corners of the Belisle traps. It takes a malleable steel to make those 180* bends, especially back to back. A few wacks with a hammer, or putting it in a vice takes care of 99% of the bending in my experience. The logs the size of your forearm are the worst on them!
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Re: New Belisle 330's problems.
[Re: fishermann222]
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04/24/18 07:51 PM
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Hupurest
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its kinda entertaining watching the newfies and frenchies fight....
I'll take wolves over idiots any day.
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