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Wasting our time and money ya right! #6225806
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The message is sent it seems!



If you're surprised by this, you haven't been paying attention to our politics for the last few years. Intense agitation from one side of the ideological aisle begets a backlash from the other -- with Americans throwing money at dueling causes, out of both fear and pure spite. With anti-NRA demagoguery dialed up to eleven after the Parkland shooting, anti-gun activists have succeeded in eroding the public's views of the organization. But they've also helped recruit legions of new NRA members and donors. Some of these new supporters have signed up out of Second Amendment solidarity, while others have likely found the group's 'culture war' messaging alluring (I personally find it needlessly partisan and borderline-apocalyptic). So even if the National Rifle Association currently finds itself in a position of diminished overall popularity, and as more of a touchstone for hyper-partisanship than ever before, scores of ordinary Americans are voting with their pocketbooks to send financial reinforcements to the embattled guns rights group:

WASHINGTON
As the student-led March for Our Lives movement captured the nation's attention in the weeks after the Parkland shooting, the other side of the gun control debate enjoyed a banner month of its own.

The National Rifle Association's Political Victory Fund raised $2.4 million from March 1 to March 31, the group's first full month of political fundraising since the nation's deadliest high school shooting on Valentine's Day, according to filings submitted to the Federal Elections Commission. The total is $1.5 million more than the organization raised during the same time period in 2017, when it took in $884,000 in donations, and $1.6 million more than it raised in February 2018.
The $2.4 million haul is the most money raised by the NRA's political arm in one month since June 2003, the last month when electronic federal records were readily available. It surpasses the $1.1 million and $1.5 million raised in January and February 2013, the two months after the Sandy Hook school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut.





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Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6225808
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Say what they want the message of where we stand is clear!

WASHINGTON
As the student-led March for Our Lives movement captured the nation's attention in the weeks after the Parkland shooting, the other side of the gun control debate enjoyed a banner month of its own.

The National Rifle Association's Political Victory Fund raised $2.4 million from March 1 to March 31, the group's first full month of political fundraising since the nation's deadliest high school shooting on Valentine's Day, according to filings submitted to the Federal Elections Commission. The total is $1.5 million more than the organization raised during the same time period in 2017, when it took in $884,000 in donations, and $1.6 million more than it raised in February 2018.
The $2.4 million haul is the most money raised by the NRA's political arm in one month since June 2003, the last month when electronic federal records were readily available. It surpasses the $1.1 million and $1.5 million raised in January and February 2013, the two months after the Sandy Hook school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6225823
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I sent them a hundred bucks.


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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6225825
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So is this profiting off someone elses misfortunes?

Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6225826
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some of that money was given by me and my wife. I do love when the "media" wants to wage a campaign on the 2nd, all they do is sell more guns and ammo than EVER and make the ranks of the NRA swell. Just like when the media all said hillary would be elected, suddenly they realized they didnt know as much as they thought.


"If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough"
Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: jbyrd63] #6225827
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Originally Posted By: jbyrd63
So is this profiting off someone elses misfortunes?



A action to reaction that nobody ever wanted to happen that was fueled by emotions you might want to stick with doing nothing your better at it!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: jbyrd63] #6225830
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Originally Posted By: jbyrd63
So is this profiting off someone elses misfortunes?


NRA is a non-profit organization. laugh



Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6225833
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Just read, (Yahoo news), where YETI is back pedaling and now say's they support the 2nd amendment.


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Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.

Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: BigBob] #6225844
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Originally Posted By: BigBob
Just read, (Yahoo news), where YETI is back pedaling and now say's they support the 2nd amendment.


I read that this morning as well. I 100% believe that was due to the pressure of us outdoorsmen.

Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6225853
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What's protecting your gun rights worth? I think $125 for 5 years is a deal for keeping my guns no better offer out there that I know of.

If La Pierre buys a new boat tomorrow God bless him some of the do nothing folk might get a job being sailboat fuel for it! LOL


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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haha, sailboat fuel. i like it


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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Rcates] #6225867
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Originally Posted By: Rcates
Originally Posted By: BigBob
Just read, (Yahoo news), where YETI is back pedaling and now say's they support the 2nd amendment.


I read that this morning as well. I 100% believe that was due to the pressure of us outdoorsmen.


geez whoed of thought hunters use coolers


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Just being a NRA is not enough. The people that pull there support from the NRA, let them know you will not support them. Use your email to contact your elected officials. IF you write over 4 lines you are righting to much. Just let them know how you feel about an issue. Be sure you start off by letting them know that you do not like there view etc. Some people write so much they FORGET to tell them that you do not share there views, and will not support there views. JMO


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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6225905
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If my wife finds out how much I've donated since Feb. 14, I may need a donation so I can afford a place to sleep. What she doesn't know won't hurt her or me> smirk

Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6226147
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Quote:
If you're surprised by this, you haven't been paying attention to our politics for the last few years. Intense agitation from one side of the ideological aisle begets a backlash from the other -- with Americans throwing money at dueling causes, out of both fear and pure spite. With anti-NRA demagoguery dialed up to eleven after the Parkland shooting, anti-gun activists have succeeded in eroding the public's views of the organization. But they've also helped recruit legions of new NRA members and donors. Some of these new supporters have signed up out of Second Amendment solidarity, while others have likely found the group's 'culture war' messaging alluring (I personally find it needlessly partisan and borderline-apocalyptic). So even if the National Rifle Association currently finds itself in a position of diminished overall popularity, and as more of a touchstone for hyper-partisanship than ever before, scores of ordinary Americans are voting with their pocketbooks to send financial reinforcements to the embattled guns rights group:


Did you write that yourself, Law Dog? If so, very well written!

I agree with the NRA being borderline apocalyptic. I really want to support the NRA ,but when I've been a member in the past, the sickening rhetoric they incessantly dump in my mailbox turned me off to the point I couldn't stand to hear from them any more. I get so sick of them insulting my intelligence and trying to foment an emotional response from me.

But the current state of affairs seems to be such that the battle lines have been drawn and I may have to join the ranks of the turds in the NRA again. I need to get off my butt and join the NRA AND the Second Amendment Foundation. I'll just have to hope the constant cry-baby blather, propaganda, and begging for more money doesn't put me off to the point I can't stand to be a member any more.


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Bound by everlasting bands?
None shall take thee
From the Strength of Israel's hands.

Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6226164
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I protect my gun rights by keeping plenty of ammo, brass, bullets, primers, and powder on hand. I belong to USSA and I vote. Politicians fear me and the tens of millions of free people like me.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Amen danny

Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6226192
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Sportsmen need to band tighter together... support the NRA Now, who cares if you get junk mail and phone calls now and again.


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I support no infringements on my right to be armed


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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I think more people , sportsmen , hunters ,shot gunners , the people who in the past could not see that they were not part of us the armed are starting to realize that just because their rifle only holds 5 rounds or their shotgun 5 rounds that they are in the sights of the Antis also , they used to be willing to give up someone else's , capacity or feature but they can finally see that it is going to hurt them also.

ask an Anti if they think a gun that can fire a round with each pull of the trigger that has a threaded muzzle should be banned. bet you get a heck yes

but I just described every over under with a single trigger and choke tubes. not to mention every semi auto with a choke tube.

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Again you have done nothing about anything but complain about everything/everybody else but you still have your guns! LOL


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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I am not real happy with the course the NRA has taken to be honest. They messed up the whole bump stock thing and we can now thank them for future longer waiting times because of the fix nics.
I am also a member of GOA as they have a more firm stance on the whole 2A matter. The NRA has more interest in feeding itself and begging for more donations then stepping up to the plate and getting in step with the whole " seal not be infringed thing "
I'll wait what stance they will take after the Las Vegas party. Then decide if I double my support for GOA and drop the NRA or still stick with both of them.
I don't want to piddle on anyones campfire here, but those are my thoughts about the matter.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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I don't agree with a lot of what the NRA does but it's still our biggest hammer, the left attacks the NRA just for that reason so that is why I support the NRA because it's working better then anything else out there!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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NRA - In my opinion is just another (well funded) PAC!


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Thanks for sharing Law Dog

I think we are sending a good message to the country that we will not just turn our guns in and go away.

Most of us support the organizations that give us the best fight for our money. Others just ride on our dime to protect theirs.

Imagine where we would be if we all did nothing.

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Really what have we lost VS what have we won and kept over the years, how many States now have better CCW laws heck even IL has CCW and I would of bet the farm that would never happen but it did.

Behind every win is a group of people getting it done and I can go buy a gun today and walk out with it the same day so what's the beef then.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
What's protecting your gun rights worth? I think $125 for 5 years is a deal for keeping my guns no better offer out there that I know of.

If La Pierre buys a new boat tomorrow God bless him some of the do nothing folk might get a job being sailboat fuel for it! LOL



Every boat that sold helps the economy by keeping people working and businesses prospering.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn


Makes sense to me. Apparently, you don't feel there should be any background checks making it possible for felons, mental unstable persons, domestic abusers, terrorists, and persons with the intent to kill human beings to purchase a firearm. Why not allow them to own hand grenades, M60s, RPGs, etc?


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Again you have done nothing about anything but complain about everything/everybody else but you still have your guns! LOL

Do you really think that the reason we still have our guns is because of the NRA?


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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I think one of the reasons we don’t have many more restrictions on them is because of the NRA. Of that I have no doubt whatsoever.


Eh...wot?

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All the NRA detractors and bashers conveniently ignore the immense amount of good the organization has done for gun owners and support of the Second Amendment.


Eh...wot?

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You are correct trapper. I do not agree with background checks of ANY kind. Weapons sales are between two consenting individuals and no government involvement is warranted. Freedom too scary?

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There’s folks on here that claim they quit the biggest, most powerful supporter of gun owners and the second amendment in the country because they sent them too much junk mail…


Eh...wot?

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Yeah, that’s it, you nailed it Finn, we are all just really scared of freedom. Everybody but you right? SMH


Eh...wot?

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Oh sure, there is 'good'. However, if the goal is elimination of the GCA and it's subsidiary acts, than the ultimate goal will be forever out of reach by continued support of an organization that supports gun control. Heck, most nra members probably support background checks.

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Did you get your degree in psychology out of the bottom of a cracker jack box?


Eh...wot?

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What? Why dont you go over to hippies house and practice talking to his dog. Come back when you two make a bit more sense.

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Originally Posted By: Lugnut
There’s folks on here that claim they quit the biggest, most powerful supporter of gun owners and the second amendment in the country because they sent them too much junk mail…


Oh the junk mail is just to much!!! I can't take it!!!!! Wah wah mommy tell them to stop.

Meanwhile we will pay for their fight.

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All the NRA detractors and bashers conveniently ignore the immense amount of good the organization has done for gun owners and support of the Second Amendment.

I'm not bashing them, but I sure don't give anymore credit than they deserve. They have over the years done a lot of good, especially with the youth. But they have also been the great compromiser with the 2nd. I think that the other 130+ million gun owners that are not NRA members are what keeps the politicians in check. JMO, of course.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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When you say "dang-they did take my guns"--it's gonna be to late ya know.









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Catch22 maybe in the past your statement is true but in today's world we need professional organizations leading our fight.

Politicians don't fear individual tax payers anymore. The side that rallies together and scream the loudest are the ones with the power.

I don't agree with it but it's the way it is.

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Originally Posted By: racerboy108
Catch22 maybe in the past your statement is true but in today's world we need professional organizations leading our fight.

Politicians don't fear individual tax payers anymore. The side that rallies together and scream the loudest are the ones with the power.

I don't agree with it but it's the way it is.

Maybe so racer. It does make me wonder why there are approx 100+ million gun owners and only 5 million NRA members. I can't believe it's because they all can't afford it.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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I think to many people take it for granted on not having representation to protect our rights.

A very high percent won't pay till they feel they are going to lose something. We knew all along the fight has been there but now it has escalated.

And than there are the individuals that will never join till it's to late.

Memberships have grown recently and I am interested in knowing what the newest count of members are.

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Originally Posted By: racerboy108
Catch22 maybe in the past your statement is true but in today's world we need professional organizations leading our fight.

Politicians don't fear individual tax payers anymore. The side that rallies together and scream the loudest are the ones with the power.

I don't agree with it but it's the way it is.

Maybe so racer. It does make me wonder why there are approx 100+ million gun owners and only 5 million NRA members. I can't believe it's because they all can't afford it.


It’s because most folks are apathetic. It’s just too easy to do nothing. It’s human nature. Others make silly excuses why they won’t join the fight, that is not directed at you specifically.


Eh...wot?

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doing nothing is to the governments benefit big time hence the reason they pretty much teach it in our schools early now and push their own agenda instead of letting our youth to make their own choices.









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Its pretty simple. The NRA can NOT BE TRUSTED. That is why most gun owners wont join. Most gun owners don't believe in infringement. I quit sending money when they supported that unconstitutional treasonous gun control proposed by Bill Clinton.

Anybody who believes background checks, 200 dollar bribes to buy full auto or suppressors, no mail order etc, makes us safer, shouldn't be trusted with a motor vehicle. They are incapable of thinking logically.


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So what have we learned here,

NRA is getting rich.
NRA is sending out more "Junk Mail" which makes some mad. (NRA spending some money to send out "Junk Mail")
We like to blame each other because ones a member and one's not
And some won't tell their wives where the household money is spent.

Impressive,

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too many junkies now and to many deaths by over dose. lets make people have to get a prescription before they can own narcotics


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too many junkies now and to many deaths by over dose. lets make people have to get a prescription before they can own narcotics


Don't you think or know that's been the law for many years? Druggies don't get their drugs legally.

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Here's your sheet sherlock.

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And now I ask you to examine your convictions, concerning firearms. Recollect the comments herewith and then contemplate where the $ is going. You may think that by sending the cash to the central office is doing good, fact is they take a lot to buy boats for their president and the rest to the majority sent to a political party that is inept in every regard.

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And now I ask you to examine your convictions, concerning firearms. Recollect the comments herewith and then contemplate where the $ is going. You may think that by sending the cash to the central office is doing good, fact is they take a lot to buy boats for their president and the rest to the majority sent to a political party that is inept in every regard.

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The post so truthful I posted it twice full

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Anti's are among us!

No other way to explain why some go outta their way to demagogue gun rights orgs.

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
You are correct trapper. I do not agree with background checks of ANY kind. Weapons sales are between two consenting individuals and no government involvement is warranted. Freedom too scary?


In other words, you believe it's worth the risk that anyone who wants a gun should be able to get it. I too believe in freedom. But, I also believe there those who have forfeited their right to freedom and their right to own a firearm. That's where you and I differ.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Anti's are among us!

No other way to explain why some go outta their way to demagogue gun rights orgs.


It really is hard for me to understand why a few members here go out of their way to bash the NRA every time there is something positive about the organization posted. Finn claims he’s not posting anything negative, but he is the first one to start the crap every time there’s an NRA post, I just don’t understand it. If you don’t want to be a part of the fight that’s fine. But why crap all over people who care enough to support the organizations that support us?


Eh...wot?

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No sir trapper, that's where YOU call government. They'll take care of that for you. You're another anti in my book.

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
And now I ask you to examine your convictions, concerning firearms. Recollect the comments herewith and then contemplate where the $ is going. You may think that by sending the cash to the central office is doing good, fact is they take a lot to buy boats for their president and the rest to the majority sent to a political party that is inept in every regard.


You keep talking about the inept party which we know is the republican party, but say nothing about the party that increasingly has made it clear they want to deprive you of gun ownership completely.

Haven't you been watching our local news talking about how the state republicans are standing firm in MN regarding gun control amid a growing percentage of Minnesotans who want stiffer gun laws. The democrats are totally on board with this growing percentage. It would seem you are totally in bed with the democrats that you refuse to take them to task on this issue.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Mail solicitations can go in the recycling bin, E-mails get deleted. Not that hard. We all know that MONEY makes the world go round, and the NRA has to counter the big bucks folks, that for some reason, they can't rationally explain, want to ban guns.


Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.

Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.

Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
No sir trapper, that's where YOU call government. They'll take care of that for you. You're another anti in my book.


I wouldn't want to live in your world. It lacks common sense.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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NRA reminds me of the unicef campaign when I was a hallowwener. Just give a penny a day, starVin ethiopians...yea that was an illusion too. Wake up men.

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Ever wonder if the cheeto-in-chief has a short barreled.......why can't you?

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
NRA reminds me of the unicef campaign when I was a hallowwener. Just give a penny a day, starVin ethiopians...yea that was an illusion too. Wake up men.


You remind me of a naive and misguided young man who is convinced he can save the world (which you apparently see in overly-simplistic terms of black and white) all by yourself.

Your assumption that NRA members don't understand the supposed evil agenda of the organization we choose to support is, at best, arrogant and uninformed. At it's worst, it's delusional to the degree where you should probably be seeking professional help.

You aren't going to persuade one single member to quit the NRA with your constant, tiresome ranting and cutesy quips so how about you cut the bullcrap, quit beating that long dead horse and give it a rest already?

We will continue to support the one organization that has done far,far more than any other as far as support of hunters, shooters and all gun-owners in America. The one organization that has been and continues to be the most powerful ally we have against gun-grabbing liberals. The one organization that has done far, far more than any other to defend against further infringements of the second amendment.

And you can sit in your porch, listen to some Rob Zombie, vote for pot head presidential candidates with zero chance of winning, chant things like, "I will never comprimise" and do whatever else the voices in your head tell you to do.

What do you say bud?


Eh...wot?

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I chew Copenhagen. It says no compromise right on the lid. If you can't hack it its fine. Just know when your ilk blows smoke flyinfinn will show fire. Want another nra meme? Maybe a youtoone vid?

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Did someone say background check?

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I've heard good things about the GOA and I'm checking them out. They have "The only no-compromise gun lobby in Washington" at the top of there website. Maybe everyone should jump ship, leave the NRA and join them? Also, this is interesting... Article about 2nd from GOA


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Meh, the idea that an individual right (the only RIGHT) needs to be filtered through a certain political party should show where we are. Get put of your malaise, men.

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I cant figure out how pointing out that the NRA supports "reasonable" gun control is a bad thing. It's the truth. No different than when Hillary says it. They don't agree on what is "reasonable" but they do agree that "reasonable" control should be acceptable.

Well I don't agree and I'm not sending money. NRA wants to end gun control once and for all about as bad as PETA wants to stop hunting and meat processing. Kill the golden goose?????????? No way!!!!!!!!!


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wow,and i thought i was a fruit loop.









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if you think "reasonable" gun control is constitutional and possible your absolutely right pcr2


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You know, you guys are free to start your own NRA-bashing thread. Might not get the same attention you three or four get by jumping on every single pro-NRA thread and slinging your bullcrap. Is that what you guys are craving, attention?


Eh...wot?

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Originally Posted By: pcr2
wow,and i thought i was a fruit loop.


Seems a couple fruit loops ended up in the cheerios box. Lol

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Originally Posted By: Lugnut
You know, you guys are free to start your own NRA-bashing thread. Might not get the same attention you three or four get by jumping on every single pro-NRA thread and slinging your bullcrap. Is that what you guys are craving, attention?

I lay down tr4uthlets, as they come..I'm not buying into your opinion, and that's that. I will say if the NRA is the clarion call of be alls n end alls, well...you suck. Bunch a grab assers.

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I'm again, not bashing the NRA, however if your honest, their track record isn't all that great. And if they are the best we have, then we are screwed. One little bite at a time. What do the NRA members think of GOA. Only 1.5 million members but they seem tough. Any opinions of them?


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Grebeassers.

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Their track record is not that great? Can you name any other organization that has done as much in support of gun owners and defense of the Second Amendment? Can you name any other organization in the history of the United States that does has done half as much?


Eh...wot?

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"We" cannot send enough money to reconcile. That, my people, is the G.D. point! Qhit making an Indivisual came from gawt right into a religion. "If you're not witu us"...pay your dues

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Grebeassers.


Don’t you have some…what is it you do...oh yeah, absolutely nothing...you should be doing?


Eh...wot?

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Well there is that incessant whining you do… I guess that’s something…


Eh...wot?

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I dont even like you people's, so why should I Sendo money for a right that Wayne laaaapeeair says the government needs to "look into this"
You people are a bunch of non hackers, and I remind you that the 4th of July is coming soon. Get your lawnchairs to sit on the sidelines.

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Originally Posted By: Lugnut
Their track record is not that great? Can you name any other organization that has done as much in support of gun owners and defense of the Second Amendment? Can you name any other organization in the history of the United States that does has done half as much?

Can you name any other Org that has compromised more than the NRA?


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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So, know what you're getting into, being an NRA member.you people dont represent me
I want belt fed,leave me alone freedom. Got weed? That's time, too. As far as im concerned.............

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Sad part is, we can't be on a pro gun/outdoor/trapping site and talk about the best pro gun club in the world without seeing the same bull-crap from the same people/person.

Might as well watch CNN.

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Once again focusing on the relatively few negatives and completely ignoring the immense amount of good they’ve done for all of us who own guns and support the Second Amendment.


Eh...wot?

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
So, know what you're getting into, being an NRA member.you people dont represent me
I want belt fed,leave me alone freedom. Got weed? That's time, too. As far as im concerned.............


Someone call yer name to this thread and force it on you?

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
I dont even like you people's,


So you sit and waste your life arguing a stupid stance with people you don't like. Lol

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Originally Posted By: Catch22
Originally Posted By: Lugnut
Their track record is not that great? Can you name any other organization that has done as much in support of gun owners and defense of the Second Amendment? Can you name any other organization in the history of the United States that does has done half as much?

Can you name any other Org that has compromised more than the NRA?



I can name a lot of liberal organizations whose sole purpose Is to remove our guns and infringe on our Second Amendment rights. You know, the kind of organizations the NRA stands up and fights for us as collective gun owners.


Eh...wot?

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Background check? Felon?

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Well heading for the U.P tomorrow. I see the post has had 88 responses and 1793 view. I am a NRA support, I would like to see more supporter but really do not care if you are on not, that is your right. If you think you can do better go for it. I would bet not 10% of the people out of the 88 post called, wrote or contacted the elected officials on any subject in the last ten day let alone anything related to gun control one way or the other. JMO


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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
So, know what you're getting into, being an NRA member.you people dont represent me
I want belt fed,leave me alone freedom. Got weed? That's time, too. As far as im concerned.............


I think we’d all like to grant you your wish of “leave me alone freedom” but you keep sticking your nose into these threads and whining about what a terrible, evil, freedom-sucking organization the NRA is.

We get it Finn, we get how you feel about the NRA. We got it a long, long time ago.

Why do you get your panties all wadded up over which 2A group I choose to support? That’s my choice, why does it bother you to the point where you feel you need to become a total PITA and derail every single thread on this subject?

Twist up a doobie and mellow out dude.


Eh...wot?

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I am being sincere when I say I am very concerned about our freedom and the 2nd. I was really thinking about re-joining the NRA but I still don't see what you's see. I don't see them as the great crusader for the 2nd, I see them stepping up to give our rights away. Just like with fix nics, bump stocks etc. But I will continue to research and look into GOA. And pay very close attn to our political races and vote accordingly.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Are rights collective??. Do I need to give a crap about a pennslvvanian? No. Keep your compromising ways, son. Leave us alonw. I'm makin wayS you cNt comprehend.

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I'll bet there's more people here who don't care or wanrt to hear your bull.

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Dang typing on a phone. I'll come out n say it, the NRA is a boat anchor.

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Originally Posted By: Catch22
I'm again, not bashing the NRA, however if your honest, their track record isn't all that great. And if they are the best we have, then we are screwed. One little bite at a time. What do the NRA members think of GOA. Only 1.5 million members but they seem tough. Any opinions of them?


I am a member of both GOA and NRA. And as I said earlier, I'll wait how the NRA shapes up after the Las Vegas convention. In the last year, they have made way to many " compromises"
To the tune that they have din the last year let more slip then in the 8 years of Barry O's term and I am not cool with that. So unless they dig their heels in and actually stand up to what they are supposed to do, I'll put my money on GOA and double up on it instead of sending more to the NRA.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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You do care hippo, maybe you guys can change from club compromise into club,,,,clubz, club? What was the point of the club again?

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Rifleman? Gather round spawm, I'll give a story of the BEST rifle squad. I AM a rifleman,so don't tickle me with your NRA B.S.

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Get your poop in a group. We're about to go from 2018 and roll back thru the year s. Let's do it.

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Did your dog concur?

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Step away from the bottle Finn.


Eh...wot?

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Are rights collective??. Do I need to give a crap about a pennslvvanian? No. Keep your compromising ways, son. Leave us alonw. I'm makin wayS you cNt comprehend.


You seem to care very deeply about which organization this Pennsylvanian chooses to financially support. You spent so much time and effort trying to dissuade me I can come to no other conclusion. While I appreciate your concern, it is unnecessary and unwanted.

Thanks but no thanks.

Now how about affording me some of that “leave-me-alone-freedom” you want so bad?


Eh...wot?

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Lugnut you are feeding his anti ways. Not worth the effort.

It's people like Finn that play right into the left's hands.

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I have seen a number of threads now on the NRA, and several post in regards has to what many feel the NRA actually does, or areas some feel the NRA comes up short. What I'm about to post may very well change your mind, and if not that is ok as well, because this is a free country, and we are all entitled our own opinions.

Working for several years on matters concerning trapping I can say the NRA has always been in the corner for Trappers. The NRA supports trapping, and they do it with actual people in the many different committee hearings, that involves legislation that pertains to trapping matters. The NRA works with trapping associations if asked, and their ready at a drop of a hat when trappers need the help. Every trapper (I feel) should be a member of the NRA, that for me is a no brainer. I have set in on many of committee hearings representing trappers, and have had the NRA right beside us on many occasions, and thankful for that support. I have seen the support for not only gun owners, but sportsmen overall, just what I have actually seen happen people, nothing more. The way I feel now is I'm getting support for not only trapping, but as a gun owner as well, and that's not a bad deal.

In Illinois without the NRA, and the ISRA (Illinois State Rifle Association) we would not have gun ownership like we have today, but rather we would have something along the lines of maybe Russia.

RTT

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I support the NRA. Does my support of the NRA help our cause, or does it hurt our cause? Does not supporting them help our cause? Where would we be without them in recent times? The war has changed, the fight is different now. I am not in favor of the compromises that have been made, but I firmly believe that things would be worse without them.

I am glad that I have read some of these discussions though. I will be looking into other groups to support like others have said. But I will not turn my back on the NRA.....

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I find this thread i a lot easier on the eyes with FF on ignore ....... just sayin.


Let's go Brandon

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Originally Posted By: Scuba1
I find this thread i a lot easier on the eyes with FF on ignore ....... just sayin.


Lol so true

He definitely likes to weigh in and put his negative attacks against the nra but yet he proposes no better option that's realistic.

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you guy's stop petting the dog,he'll stop hangin around. laugh









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For a guy that cherishes his me time he wastes a lot of it worried about what others are doing that might be positive while playing reindeer games and name calling like a child.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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What compromises shall we discuss today?

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who petted him????come on-fess up.

can't take it Fin,i'm headed to the camper for a while to figure out all the problems in the world myself.









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Originally Posted By: pcr2
who petted him????come on-fess up.

can't take it Fin,i'm headed to the camper for a while to figure out all the problems in the world myself.


Sorry I confess.

I snuck in and took his bottle and he woke crying.

In his sleep he kept yelling Hillary. Not sure what that means?

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
What compromises shall we discuss today?


Why don't we discuss how you constantly bash the republican party, but never mention the democrats. Why don't you talk about how in MN the democrats are pushing legislation to increase gun control? But, the republican party refuses to budge on the issue. It's no secret the democratic party is the party behind more gun control. Even my democratic friends admit that. But, I've never heard that from you. You are a democrat masquerading as a Libertarian.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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The daycare opened late today! whistle


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Originally Posted By: Trapper7
Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
What compromises shall we discuss today?


Why don't we discuss how you constantly bash the republican party, but never mention the democrats. Why don't you talk about how in MN the democrats are pushing legislation to increase gun control? But, the republican party refuses to budge on the issue. It's no secret the democratic party is the party behind more gun control. Even my democratic friends admit that. But, I've never heard that from you. You are a democrat masquerading as a Libertarian.

Democrats are obviously the enemy. They tell you so to your face. Republican's tell you they want less gun laws, but no moves have been made federally. They are in control of both houses of Congress and the presidentcy.

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In our own state, the Republicans failed to pass constitutional carry to present to the govenor because they caved in to police union pressure.

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Again can you purchase a gun today in MN? From what you have for leadership and the comedians and wrestlers you pick you get what you voted for!


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I cannot purchase a pistol in MN. I cannot because I refuse to ask permission. However, the NRA and Republicans seem to support background checks, asking permission and paying a fee.

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So your cheap? Again looking at the impossible when the possible is there but you choose to make it unachievable so what is the real problem again? Don't agree with the process either but then you got what you voted for, we don't have that here so what is the issue? MN, You or the whole world then.


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Yes, I am cheap. However, cheapness has nothing to do with it. Rights are free, they exsited before the introduction of the government. By shrugging ones shoulders and go along to get along by paying a fee, asking for permission, undertaking a background check you legitimize the mockery that the constitution has become. So, until these hindrances go away (psst, the NRA and Republicans aren't working too hard for them to go away) I will not be buying a handgun or carrying one for self defense. I will have to resort to closing with Cold Steel until then.
One could say that one could carry a pistol withOUT having papers, but the underlying truth is that there are many many law enforcement officers who would arrest you over an unconstitutional law, and many prosecutors who would charge and convict you for a piece of paper.

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So you do next to nothing about everything, complain about others that do something, refuse to use the steps that allow you to get what you want and join groups that numbers in the 100's and you can't figure it all out? I'm stumped too!


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What is there to figure out? It's clear to see for all that open their eyes.

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What compromises shall we discuss today?




Eh...wot?

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That's funny lug.

I think a donkey is more fitting though

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Why don't we discuss how you constantly bash the republican party, but never mention the democrats. Why don't you talk about how in MN the democrats are pushing legislation to increase gun control? But, the republican party refuses to budge on the issue. It's no secret the democratic party is the party behind more gun control. Even my democratic friends admit that. But, I've never heard that from you. You are a democrat masquerading as a Libertarian.

I agree Trapper 7, however, after that left-wing snowflake from the cities had her overnite slumber in the chambers,
it appears Speaker Daudt is about to re-open some talks today.

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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
So you do next to nothing about everything, complain about others that do something, refuse to use the steps that allow you to get what you want and join groups that numbers in the 100's and you can't figure it all out? I'm stumped too!


It's one thing to support, or not support a certain group. It's ok to say your piece why you do or don't.
It's a whole other lever to mock and discourage others for supporting a group, expecially a pro-gun group.

I've voiced my displeasure of the NRA for their stance regarding the Harrisburg outdoorsman show, but i didn't, and wouldn't, discourage others from joining them. That would be cutting your nose of to spite your face. Any numbscull knows the NRA is fighting for our rights.

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I personally am going with the GOA. After some research I decided that if I'm gonna back someone who is gonna back me, it'll be a Org that doesn't compromise like the NRA. Not knockin NRA supporters but don't understand ya's lol.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Why not join both and cover the bases!


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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
In our own state, the Republicans failed to pass constitutional carry to present to the govenor because they caved in to police union pressure.


Don't be like the main stream media, tell the whole story about how some of the democrats have staged a sit in for stronger gun control measures. The democratic legislator who organized the sit in, said she was doing it because the republicans wouldn't budge on tougher gun laws.

When the concealed carry law passed, who was the governor and what party was he? I can play your game too.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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I just donated $50 to the NRA. After reading this thread they need it more than ever. If it wasn’t for the NRA, this thread would be discussing why we can’t own a firearm in the USA any more.

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Just went to the GOA site the have never compromised to any Federal legislation and fully support bump stocks, so surely Finn IS a member there or does that cheap thing kick in again then?


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Just went to the GOA site the have never compromised to any Federal legislation and fully support bump stocks, so surely Finn IS a member there or does that cheap thing kick in again then?


He needs to start his own club. Call it "My Way Or The Highway Club".


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Just went to the GOA site the have never compromised to any Federal legislation and fully support bump stocks, so surely Finn IS a member there or does that cheap thing kick in again then?


He needs to start his own club. Call it "My Way Or The Highway Club".


The road to my recliner? Highway to wherever I won't like it anyways! I have to work for that what the heck, foul!


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Why not join both and cover the bases!

Because WE can't take anymore compromise. Why not switch to GOA?


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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The NRA is being blamed here for losing bump-stocks...........Why doesn't the GOA share the blame?

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Why not join both and cover the bases!

Because WE can't take anymore compromise. Why not switch to GOA?


2 hammers are better then one why not both? GOA does not have the clout that the NRA has to get as much done but they are gaining ground. How often do you hear about GOA compared to what the NRA is doing. IMO


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Just out: Nancy Pelosi pledges if the democrats take back the House they will immediately move to gut the second amendment. Everything will be on the table, gun bans, national gun registration, stiffer background checks.

According to Finn, at least they're honest about it. crazy


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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The NRA is being blamed here for losing bump-stocks...........Why doesn't the GOA share the blame?

Because they didn't walk up and give it away like the NRA, they are fighting it!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Just out: Nancy Pelosi pledges if the democrats take back the House they will immediately move to gut the second amendment. Everything will be on the table, gun bans, national gun registration, stiffer background checks.

According to Finn, at least they're honest about it. crazy

Maybe the reflubs should get off their duff and repeal some federal gun laws. Crazy talk. Bunch of do-nothings.

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Like Finn, i have no worries. The no give lebertarians will put the screws to her.

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Originally Posted By: Trapper7
Just out: Nancy Pelosi pledges if the democrats take back the House they will immediately move to gut the second amendment. Everything will be on the table, gun bans, national gun registration, stiffer background checks.

According to Finn, at least they're honest about it. crazy

Maybe the reflubs should get off their duff and repeal some federal gun laws. Crazy talk. Bunch of do-nothings.


What did I tell you? No admonishment for the democrats who are the major offenders here, but those repubs sure are the bad guys. Democrat masquerading as a libertarian.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Originally Posted By: hippie
The NRA is being blamed here for losing bump-stocks...........Why doesn't the GOA share the blame?


The NRA is looked at as the leader of the gun organizations. They take the front lines and the heat head on.

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Trapper7, it doesn't pay to admonish the democrats. Everyone knows. It seems that not everyone knows that Republicans are the other 50% of the reason we have the government we currently suffer with.

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They why not pick on both parties, not just one? Isn't one just as guilty as the other?


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Why waste bandwidth talking about how bad the Democrats are? Everyone already knows it.

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Originally Posted By: hippie
Like Finn, i have no worries. The no give lebertarians will put the screws to her.


Yep 100s of them!


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Bunch of do-nothings. [/quote]

See now there is a group you can agree with!

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Originally Posted By: Lugnut
Once again focusing on the relatively few negatives and completely ignoring the immense amount of good they’ve done for all of us who own televisions.


I think this was meant for the Cosby thread?


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Can someone please shed more light on GOA? Really not a lot of info on their website and I honestly had never heard of them until just recently.......

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Finn I wonder who it was that go us our suppressors back in MN plus expanded other gun rights in 2015? NRA had little to do with it. I'm not dissing the NRA and I am a member, just thought I'd mention it.

And of course Law Dog would call a libertarian a democrat. He doesn't understand that libertarian's have some Democrat tendencies.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Never said such a thing now did I! Show me where? You quit supporting bad behavior you might really help some one that needs it!

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Sorry Jerry, my fingers typed faster than my brain was thinking, I meant to say Trapper7.

Again, my apologies for the mixup


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Steve your probably a decent guy but how much enabling can you do before you realize what is going on, nobody forces your pal to come on these threads and start with the negative games. He must enjoy it or he would not do it or maybe he enjoys the impunity some give him?

I respect his service always have always will never said a bad word in regards to that and won't ever! I would and have helped him when I could no strings attached.

He attacks my profession unfairly at will and you say nothing about that, why not if it's wrong to do so, how does that work? I don't react the same way he does to others but when are you going to give out some real and fair help rather then the "he can do whatever and everyone else just eat the crap pies".

You shovel a lot of crap you get some back on you, I have been decent about this as I can handle such nonsense for what it is.

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Actually Jerry, Finn and I don't think too far apart on alot of political issues, as I age I'm becoming more of a libertarian as well. He's just a bit more passionate about it than I am.

I think it's time to stop compromising and draw a line in the sand. Conservative/libertarian minded people have been compromising for far too long. It's time for a reset so our children don't have to live with the mess that has been created.


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The choice of party is not the problem to each their own no worries the criticism of everything is the issue, just looks like the criticismtarian party the way it comes across on here and if what I chose is not respected they the reaction may look like it directed to the wrong place. If recurring new members was the goal the message is being lost in the jousting games.

I care not what/who people pray to, or of their color, race or creed or a person preferences I deal with people as the person they are you have never seen me attack a person on here out of the blue though my straight forward approach my be mistaken for that. A lot of my responses are dark humor also mistake for something else. I would match my record of helping people to anyone on here through PMs or posts.


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I do not believe I have attacked anyone. If you feel I have attacked you, I wish you would show me where. This is a discussion board, not an agreement board. If your skin is so thin that you cannot weather criticism or someone who disagrees with you, put me on ignore. I don't want your Internet experience to be a negative one.

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I think Finn the problem rises between you and others is your negative outlook becomes a distraction from the subject matter.

We all know how you feel and stand about the nra. Don't matter if we agree or disagree with your thoughts as they are yours.

The majority of us believe the nra is our best option to protect us. Every time a topic is started it gets sidelined into a argument about the nra.

But yet you give no better reasonable choice to convince us as better options.

I do like your input on some topics but when the nail has been beaten into the wood it should be enough. By keep beating on the nail the wood is destroyed.

Bickering back and forth one topic after another does not get us no where.

I am not attacking you but making a observation.

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Fair enough, I guess this is an agreement board and not a discussion board. Have fun patting each other on the back telling yourselves how great everything is.

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Would like to see just a hand full helpful/informative/constructive post out of the 9000+ listed posts but that would be a challenge I would say from what I have seen. I don't mind the jousting at all but I would like a level playing field with mutual respect is all. You cannot have a full debate when you cannot get past the 1% and ignore the meat of it.

To have a discussion you need 2 different ideas to talk about not just one person laying out the idea and the other fling poo at every turn with nothing to back it up. Heck I love a good discussion and learn a lot from others that way if ideas are batted around fairly.


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I find this thread i a lot easier on the eyes with FF on ignore ....... just sayin.


Lol so true

He definitely likes to weigh in and put his negative attacks against the nra but yet he proposes no better option that's realistic.



He rubbed me up the wrong way once and I decided I don't need that carp. Reminds me of a person on a sinking boat, ranting about the Captain for not checking the vessel, ripping into the folks that built the thing, inaccurate charts and what not. But does not get of his fat (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), back up a bucket and bail some water over the side.
Sad ... yup
Pathetic.... yeppers.
Annoying .... check.
Helpful ??? Nope but he will sink ranting and raving knowing for himself that he did the right thing.

That was as far as I can make it out, and thats the reason that I put him on ignore.
I am to old to deal with that sort of immature BS to be honest.


Let's go Brandon

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The NRA supports trappers, and trapping. Now find fault with that !!


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Fair enough, I guess this is an agreement board and not a discussion board. Have fun patting each other on the back telling yourselves how great everything is.


Your arrogance has no limits.


Eh...wot?

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Scuba has me on ignore and still whines about me. LOL. You just can't make this stuff up.

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Originally Posted By: Lugnut
Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Fair enough, I guess this is an agreement board and not a discussion board. Have fun patting each other on the back telling yourselves how great everything is.


Your arrogance has no limits.


Yep he just does not get but it's working better for him then the rest of us! LOL


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Join Scuba by putting me on the ignore list lawdog. Than you can go back to helping people.

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Helping people is not the problem sometimes the people are! wink


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How about some cheerful news guys! Oklahoma just passed a Constitutional Carry law today. Congrats Oklahoma folks!

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Originally Posted By: Rcates
How about some cheerful news guys! Oklahoma just passed a Constitutional Carry law today. Congrats Oklahoma folks!



A lot has happened in the last 10 years but you would not know sometimes on here! LOL Great news.


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I'm not surprised. OK said they would recognize KS constitutional carry. I figured if they were doing that as soon as they could get it written and the legislature met they would pass it for Okies. How many to go now? 42?


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Originally Posted By: Rcates
How about some cheerful news guys! Oklahoma just passed a Constitutional Carry law today. Congrats Oklahoma folks!


That's positive news.

To bad 2 kids got suspended in New Jersey for going to a gun range after school.

The fight goes on.

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Originally Posted By: Rcates
How about some cheerful news guys! Oklahoma just passed a Constitutional Carry law today. Congrats Oklahoma folks!


Great news

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Why does it bother you so much that the majority of the members on this board choose to support the NRA? Why do you feel the need to jump on every single pro NRA thread and do your very best to derail it with your ignorant comments and your cute quips?

You repeatedly bash the NRA and call the people who choose to support it ignorant and naïve, not understanding the true, evil, compromising nature of the NRA (in the bizzaro world according to Finn). We all get it Finn. We all understand that you consider yourself intellectually superior to all of us ignorant sheep who foolishly give our money to a compromising organization. We freaking get it already!

But you won’t let it go will you? You just keep on beating that long dead horse don’t you? It got real old a long time ago but you just keep at it. I’m beginning to think you’re an attention junkie, a troll. I don’t believe you’ve ever added anything constructive to any of these threads.

Now you’re asking everybody to put you on ignore. I’ve got a better idea. How about you just mind your own business, let us all support who we want to support and keep your mouth shut about it?


Eh...wot?

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I'm not saying DON'T support the NRA, but...
Look where we're at.
We have to donate millions of dollars to save a Constitutional right??? What the heck?

No political party, president or court can save this country.


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Originally Posted By: ShawneeMan
I'm not saying DON'T support the NRA, but...
Look where we're at.
We have to donate millions of dollars to save a Constitutional right??? What the heck?

No political party, president or court can save this country.


I agree parts of our government have forgotten what the constitution means.

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Originally Posted By: ShawneeMan
I'm not saying DON'T support the NRA, but...
Look where we're at.
We have to donate millions of dollars to save a Constitutional right??? What the heck?

No political party, president or court can save this country.


The liberals are winning. They control mass media and education and are using both to successfully indoctrinate millions.


Eh...wot?

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Originally Posted By: Lugnut
Originally Posted By: ShawneeMan
I'm not saying DON'T support the NRA, but...
Look where we're at.
We have to donate millions of dollars to save a Constitutional right??? What the heck?

No political party, president or court can save this country.


The liberals are winning. They control mass media and education and are using both to successfully indoctrinate millions.

And here you are Lug, with others, fighting Finn and those that disagree with your NRA doctrine. Rise up and realize we have serious work to do. AS a deep member of our community said to me today, we are pulling from the same rope. The NRA has proven to you and everyone else they are compromisers and can't get it done. So if your serious, lets band together and save our great Nation. Quite going back to the past, it's dead, focus forward and lets get it done. Are you with me?


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Catch22 find 5 positive treads and get back to us then how can you miss the whole point of what's going on here?


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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Catch22 find 5 positive treads and get back to us then how can you miss the whole point of what's going on here?

Big words with no meaning, You find five, I ain't your B. Keep wasting your time with sentiments from the past and see where that gets ya. The NRA is no different than the same politicians we abhor, you just haven't seen it yet. Not my fault.....


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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The NRA works on a national level, and that means not only in Washington D.C, but at most all state capitals across the country. That means gun owners are attacked yearly on so many different fronts, federal, state, and local governments. Keeping up with just the turn over in a single state, and learning the different positions of newly elected reps, and senators in each state is more than a full time chore for any organization dealing with gun issues.

The fact that many of you choose to ignore is the NRA has the net working already set up to handle matters just like this, and I doubt that any other gun rights organization in our country has the abilities the NRA has today. Many complain about the politicians, and the NRA is no different than the politicians. Well don't keep sending the same old hacks to congress !! This is just like programming a computer, bad info in, bad info out. Give the NRA something their able to work with. There are many times the NRA pulls its hair out dealing with the many different political ego's it has to confront on a daily basis, but they have to work with what the people have elected, and sent them. Do you think the NRA likes every politician it deals with, not by a long shot.

Also I doubt that many that complain about the NRA have any idea upon how the very basic legislative process even goes about taking place, and that I feel is a bigger sin than not supporting the NRA. If you don't understand the legislative process as a whole, then how are you ever going to represent your own position on any matter, and please don't tell me via your representative, or senator, because that answer only show how little you really know. I'm talking a much deeper level, a level most choose never to explore, or feel they want to dwell into, this is where the NRA comes into play people.

Complain about the NRA all you want, truth is their the only game in town with the tools to get anything done. You don't have to like it, but its the truth, and you can choose to ignore it and do nothing, or jump onboard, and try to change what you don't like by taking part. If your not part of the solution, then your just a part of the problem.

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Whats it going to take to get the rest of the states on board with the fact that people have a right to be armed? IMO it will take a decision by the supremes and people in Chicago, Brooklyn and Norwalk are going to be mad.


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These negative NRA twirps ever think that if all gun owners would support the NRA they would be so strong that no compromises would ever be given.

I don't blame the NRA when we have gun owners not willing to pay their share of the fight.

The do nothers are the weak link!!!!

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Originally Posted By: Catch22
And here you are Lug, with others, fighting Finn and those that disagree with your NRA doctrine.


It’s okay if you disagree with what the NRA stands for. I don’t understand why anyone who realizes all the organization has done and continues to do for hunters, shooters and trappers would, but that’s your prerogative. But when someone like Finn, who by his own admission does next to nothing to proactively protect our 2A rights, makes it his life mission to come on every single one of these threads and crap all over everybody who does care enough to fight, I’m going to push back. I find his condescending, holier-than-thou-additude disgusting.

Originally Posted By: Catch22
Rise up and realize we have serious work to do. AS a deep member of our community said to me today, we are pulling from the same rope.


Like the other NRA detractors you assume that we supporters are dullards and don’t understand the gravity of the situation. You are wrong, we do. That’s why we choose to fight.

Originally Posted By: Catch22
The NRA has proven to you and everyone else they are compromisers and can't get it done. So if your serious, lets band together and save our great Nation. Quite going back to the past, it's dead, focus forward and lets get it done. Are you with me?


You are wrong about this too. The NRA has done more and continues to do more for shooters, gun-owners and the defense of 2A than any other organization out there. Read ringtailtrapper’s post above, he does an excellent job of explaining it. To claim the NRA, “can’t get it done” is just plain ignorant.

Again, you and Finn and the rest of the NRA-bashers are free to do whatever it is you choose to do in the fight for freedom from gun-grabbing liberals. But is it too much to ask that you quit crapping on the rest of us that choose to do it our way?


Eh...wot?

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what do you think it will take to restore our lost gun rights lugnut? what about 4th amendment rights?

do you think what I perceive as infringement really is?

FWIW yelling fire in a theater will only get you legal trouble if somebody gets hurt.


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Ok we will have to define " Compromise " here I think.

settle a dispute by mutual concession.
"in the end we compromised and deferred the issue"
synonyms: meet each other halfway, come to an understanding, make a deal, make concessions, find a happy medium, strike a balance; give and take
"we compromised"

This is not how it work as far as the 2A goes though it it. They take a chunk of our rights away bit by bit and then come back for more and will take the rest later.
Thats not a compromise. Thats stealing.
So every little bit they get, is something we will never get back. Or at least it is going to be very tough to get anything back.

IMHO The NRA should have the stones to dig its heals in and say no to anymore infringements. Like GOA does. And if the leadership of the NRA is not willing to take that stand, then they will have to be exchanged with people that will step up to the plate. Or I for one will invest my money in an organization that protects my interests and withdraw from the NRA.
I am not suggesting that any of you do the same, it is just the way I think about it.
I have a theory, why the NRA does what it does at the moment, but will keep that to myself until after Las Vegas.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
what do you think it will take to restore our lost gun rights lugnut? what about 4th amendment rights?

do you think what I perceive as infringement really is?

FWIW yelling fire in a theater will only get you legal trouble if somebody gets hurt.


I don’t know Danny, I really don’t. I understand we as conservatives and freedom-loving, gun-toting Americans are on the defensive. I get that. And I understand that we are losing that battle slowly but surely.

Yes, I agree with your perception of what infringement is, as far as I can tell, it is the same as mine.


Eh...wot?

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Not bashing the NRA, only shining a light on the compromises. If you are fine with compromise, the NRA is a good organization for you. I've said that since the beginning and I will continue to say it. All day er'day.

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Not bashing the NRA, only shining a light on the compromises. If you are fine with compromise, the NRA is a good organization for you. I've said that since the beginning and I will continue to say it. All day er'day.


Bashing=Criticising or insulting, in a derogatory manner, something which you don't like.


Eh...wot?

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Finn and the other and NRA-bashers will conveniently ignore that.


Eh...wot?

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Life Member of the NRA and have been for a long time. I do not know this GOA is or where they were when the real fight started. And Frankly when they do as much as the NRA does then I may consider joining both. Until then i will stand by the NRA

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Originally Posted By: Lugnut


Finn and the other and NRA-bashers will conveniently ignore that.


I doub't we'll be that lucky! lol

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Not bashing the NRA, only shining a light on the compromises. If you are fine with compromise, the NRA is a good organization for you. I've said that since the beginning and I will continue to say it. All day er'day.


Yep and your sitting back and whining about a organization that is in the fight while your doing nothing but sitting on your porch doing nothing.

Three groups to this fight.

One is the antis

Two is the pro gun nra members

Then there is your kind. The do nothing group.

That puts the nra up against two of the three as your group works in the hands of the antis.

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Originally Posted By: Catch22
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Catch22 find 5 positive treads and get back to us then how can you miss the whole point of what's going on here?

Big words with no meaning, You find five, I ain't your B. Keep wasting your time with sentiments from the past and see where that gets ya. The NRA is no different than the same politicians we abhor, you just haven't seen it yet. Not my fault.....


Stay clueless then your call~


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Originally Posted By: racerboy108
Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Not bashing the NRA, only shining a light on the compromises. If you are fine with compromise, the NRA is a good organization for you. I've said that since the beginning and I will continue to say it. All day er'day.


Yep and your sitting back and whining about a organization that is in the fight while your doing nothing but sitting on your porch doing nothing.

Three groups to this fight.

One is the antis

Two is the pro gun nra members

Then there is your kind. The do nothing group.

That puts the nra up against two of the three as your group works in the hands of the antis.

Two of the three groups you listed support compromise and have actually helped right gun control laws. How does that make you feel?
Refer to YouTube video on top of page two.

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Don't play to the anti's hand, just post some of the NRA's accomplishments.

Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: hippie] #6228024
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Looks like Stent Hoyer should watch the YouTube video I posted of lapeeair advocatin for background checks in 1999. No, I believe the demo have an ally in that regard.

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