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Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? #6226406
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I guess my question is what is the overall consensus of what's more important the diet or the exercise?



Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226409
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According to my four years of University in the school of human kinetics, if you wanna be skinny diet will work for ya. Metabilism will become more efficient but it's still a calories in and calories out thing. If you wanna be healthy you require a healthy diet and exercise.

Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226410
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For just weight loss diet is #1.

Intense cardio that leaves you covered in dripping sweat is #2.

Walking is better for weight loss than lifting weights....


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Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226417
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Simply burn more calories than you take in. One direction may work better for some than other depending on age and lifestyle

Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226422
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What about seeing a Nutritionist before you start a program???



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Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226428
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Cutting down on carbs is the primary thing if you have belly fat. Our diet here in this country is way too rich in carbs, and when eating lots of carbs, your body retains fat that by not eating carbs, would burn on it's own. Exorcise keeps you in shape, but diet is what porks you out!


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Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226433
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Read the book Obeisity Code. You will not only learn why some diets do not work, but it may provide motovation as well. It is working for me so far.

Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226437
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All complete nutrition stores, I believe, have a machine that will tell you your bmi, body fat %, and muscle mass per limb and for your torso. You can then track your results by getting a scan every few months.

If you know your bmi than you can have a starting point for caloric intake which will maintain your weight as it is or + or - it.

One of the best fat burning exercise is to ruck hike with a good amount of weight in your ruck....2 hours at a good pace will burn over 1000 calories easily. plus it is one of the best full body exercises that you can do.


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Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226453
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I'm down 50 lbs since August just by changing my diet. I used weight watchers which is more about what you eat and how much. If I want a burger, I eat a burger but just not every week. Even when I'm not tracking my food, I think about my choices. I have plateaued though and now need to add exercise.

Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226455
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Well they told me I need to loose 30lbs and asked me to see a Nutritionist because of my fibromyalgia but that's an expensive visit that's why I asked.

No trying to change this thread or take it over, It's been informative for me anyway.

Thanks for the input.

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Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226456
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Ok to my learning over the years I think there is a lot of misconceptions out there.

First I will star with the 3 parts of the puzzle.

First is diet obviously eating the right calories will effect your well being and the way you feel.

Second most important is actually weight lifting. As we age metabolism slows down. Weight lifting increases metabolism which in turn burns more calories naturally and also 8mproves the way a person feels.

Third importance is cardio. Cardio is good for the heart and overall health but to much cardio breaks down muscle which breaks down metabolism.

Another big misconception is gimmick diets on restricting carbs or pushing protein.

There are three food categories

First is protein. Defining protein is simple and it's needed to build muscle.

Second is carbs. Carbs get confusing as there are different types of carbs. Best way to determine good carbs from bad carbs is going by a glycemic chart. Glycemic is broken down in categorized of low, medium and high glycemic. What those values mean are how fast the body breaks down the sugar in the body for energy. A low glycemic like vegetables are the best to break the sugar down slowly and the energy lasts longer. A high glycemic breaks the sugar down fast but wears off fast. So with that said carbs that are eaten should come from the low and medium categorizes. I think most would be surprised where on the glycemic chart their food they think is healthy but actually is not. Popcorn a high glycemic but yet a chocolate candy bar is a medium glycemic.

And than we have fats. A few different types of fats and our body does need some to function. Just stay away from trans fat is the general rule.

Carbs and protein have 4 calories per gram.
Fats have 8 calories per gram.
There are 3500 calories to a pound.

A good diet is probably 40% protein 40% carbs 20% fat. You can convert that to calories if it's easier.

If I am bulking I eat good nutritional food but I can cheat a little.
If I am cutting I stay away from fruits, peanuts, peanut butter and all junk.

Everyone body does react a little different than others but for the most part these rules apply. Don't convince yourself it's ok to cheat today cause you will burn it off later. That's bad thinking. It takes a good workout to burn calories to make up for a bad diet.

Hope this helps or at least makes good conversation. There is a good book called sports nutrition that really breaks it down easy.

Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: Marty] #6226513
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Originally Posted By: Marty
For just weight loss diet is #1.

Intense cardio that leaves you covered in dripping sweat is #2.

Walking is better for weight loss than lifting weights....


Diet is number 1.

Cardio would be second to diet.

Light weight lifting with lots of reps will help lose weight. Heavy lifting will make you gain weight.

Walking is good overall for health because it promotes circulation besides weight loss.


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Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226564
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You get fit in the gym. You lose weight in the kitchen.

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Originally Posted By: deerdragger
You get fit in the gym. You lose weight in the kitchen.

Bingo!


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Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226597
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It is very easy to lose weight if you have a bit of willpower.
Cut out sugar and fat and eat less overall.That is all.


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Originally Posted By: deerdragger
You get fit in the gym. You lose weight in the kitchen.

That about says it right there.
I might add that just plain old work can take pace of the gym. Do you need to dig a ditch, excavate a footing, etc.? Don't rent a piece of equipment, but spend an hour a day with a shovel, you'll get something accomplished, and you will save equipment rental fees and gym fees all at the same time.


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The right diet and along with exercise, JMO


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Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: Trapper7] #6226613
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Originally Posted By: Trapper7


Light weight lifting with lots of reps will help lose weight. Heavy lifting will make you gain weight.



Care to elaborate on your reasoning?

Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: racerboy108] #6226679
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Originally Posted By: racerboy108
Originally Posted By: Trapper7


Light weight lifting with lots of reps will help lose weight. Heavy lifting will make you gain weight.



Care to elaborate on your reasoning?



What Trapper7 means is lifting heavy produces larger muscle, which is denser than fat. Many men and women look leaner but actually weigh more.

Re: Opinion on weight loss? Diet or excersize? [Re: NE Wildlife] #6226704
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To lose weight you have to get in the mindset that being hungry is good, that it is meeting your goal of losing weight. Eating the same # of calories but burning more due to exercise will make you hungry, eating less calories but doing the same stuff will make you hungry too. Regardless you have to resist the desire to eat. With the first option you will be thinking less about being hungry and it will be easier and more healthy. Losing weight is not hard, just painful, but the benefits are tremendous.

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