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6.5 creedmore ? #6228521
04/27/18 11:10 PM
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I just picked up a new lightweight Kimber in 6.5 and a lightweight leupold 3x9x33, I intend to use it on about everything , Antelope, muledeer and Elk, I know some will say its too light for elk, anyway my questions are what would be a "good/great " scope mount? and any info on loads for Elk?, coyote?. Had to go light because of a failed shoulder surgery. Cant draw a bow either, gonna try a light weight low power Mathews but I dont know still doing some "therapy"

Re: 6.5 creedmore ? [Re: Bosco] #6228537
04/27/18 11:29 PM
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light recoils more than heavy but is much easier to carry

I recently tried the no lap Vortex mounts I am happy with them https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2420113866/vortex-optics-viper-picatinny-style-rings-matte


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Re: 6.5 creedmore ? [Re: Bosco] #6228547
04/27/18 11:52 PM
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Leuopold rings and bases, and 140 sierra SBT
You do your part they will do the rest.
2700fps is plenty, not a gnat's eyebrows difference from the 7x57. Try IMR4350 or
AA4350. Been a lot of elk reduced to possession with the 7x57. If you can shoot its plenty of gun.
To much gun for coyote IMO unless you use reduced velocity handloads. Pm me if you want a starting point for the reduced velocity loads.


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Re: 6.5 creedmore ? [Re: Bosco] #6228555
04/28/18 02:06 AM
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The 6.5 will do its part if you do yours. To many guys spend all kinds of money on a hunting trip then buy the cheapest ammo they can find, don't be one of those guys. Your bullet is what is going to do the deed, choose wisely and don't skimp. If it was me I would go with 140 gr barnes 1st or another deep penetration, slower expansion bullet. Elk are tough, good luck and have fun.


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Re: 6.5 creedmore ? [Re: rpmartin] #6228572
04/28/18 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted By: rpmartin
The 6.5 will do its part if you do yours. To many guys spend all kinds of money on a hunting trip then buy the cheapest ammo they can find, don't be one of those guys. Your bullet is what is going to do the deed, choose wisely and don't skimp. If it was me I would go with 140 gr barnes 1st or another deep penetration, slower expansion bullet. Elk are tough, good luck and have fun.
Agreed 100%.

The biggest thing with light calibers and big animals is that one must be extremely selective about shot placement. With a 6.5, animals quartering away will have to be passed due to reduced penetration, whereas a good .300 WinMag load would perform fine and a shot like that could be humanely taken.

I would use nothing less that premium Barnes bullets for larger animals. One of my students culls for a trophy hunting ranch and kills 2 lesser bulls a year with his .260, the 6.5 CM's predecessor and ballistic twin. He uses Barnes bullets as suggested above and carefully places his shots broadside. Every elk he shoots is cleanly killed and quickly recovered. He has recovered bullets under the hide on the far side that have opened up perfectly, which not only demonstrates the high performance level of Barnes bullets, but also demonstrates the limits of penetration. FWIW, a .22 Long Rifle will fully penetrate a deer's ribcage area with a good broadside lung shot, while a .260/6.5 will only drive a bullet almost through an elk on the same broadside shot.


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Re: 6.5 creedmore ? [Re: Bosco] #6228614
04/28/18 07:28 AM
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The Swedes' been using 6.5x55 on moose for over a century. You'll be fine.


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Re: 6.5 creedmore ? [Re: Bosco] #6228616
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GCPete, what makes those Vortex rings/mounts "no lap?" There was nothing in the Midway add description that claimed perfect alignment w/o lapping. The only product I have used that didn't need lapping is the Burris Signature rings with the poly inserts.

I also have been thinking about a 6.5 Creedmore in a scout rifle configuration. The proven effectiveness of the 6.5s and an increasing (with age) aversion to carrying a heavy rifle is peaking my interest.

Re: 6.5 creedmore ? [Re: Bosco] #6228654
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I go here for my 6.5 questions:
http://www.65creedmoor.com/index.php?action=forum
and here:
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/forums/big-stuff-6-5mm-7mm-30-cal.7/

Ask specifically for a Kimber owner, and your learning curve should be shortened.


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Re: 6.5 creedmore ? [Re: EdP] #6228658
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Originally Posted By: EdP
GCPete, what makes those Vortex rings/mounts "no lap?" There was nothing in the Midway add description that claimed perfect alignment w/o lapping. The only product I have used that didn't need lapping is the Burris Signature rings with the poly inserts.

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agreed, but I've learned to NEVER rely on a middle man/distributor to give all pertinent data.

Go to the makers website for details.


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Re: 6.5 creedmore ? [Re: Bosco] #6228697
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Also, if you want to Google more places, change the spelling to end in MOOR and you'll get more places.

Hope this helps.

FWIW I'm about to build one on a small Mauser 98 action for my daughter.


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