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Chain, Machine or Twist link ? #6229427
04/29/18 12:24 PM
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Any preferences ? I don't have a trap with twist link on it. I'd like some opinions for the future .


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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6229492
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Like one guy said. Probably no advantage from one over the other, but the twist link sure looks cool!

Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6229496
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Machine chain just does everything better. Twist can get into some nasty knots, not that machine cant. Machine stores and comes out of storage a lot easier. If you can fine twisted(kinkless) welded, its even better but buying it new is expensive.

Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6229507
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I am talking about Twisted (kinkless welded). Not twin loop.

Last edited by trapper les; 04/29/18 07:27 PM.

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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6229662
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Twist link takes up less room in the trap bed, but coyotes chew on both LOL..


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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6229715
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I like the way twist link looks,handles and settles in the bed but I'm not sure there's enough advantage to worry about.I just like the twist link so I use it a lot.

Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6229729
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I have traps with both, but I don't see an advantage with either. I like the looks of twist link, especially on 3N's, couldn't tell ya why though. A foot of #3 twist link is heavier than #3 machine chain. That could be an advantage or disadvantage depending on the situation. I pick up cheap chain and pieces at yard sales and auctions when I can.


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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6230236
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Twist link just plain looks cool grin


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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6230248
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Cool looks don’t kill coyotes.

If they did, I’d have killed em all! grin

Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: Boone Liane] #6230282
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Originally Posted By: Boone Liane
Cool looks don’t kill coyotes.

If they did, I’d have killed em all! grin

Funny right there!


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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: Boone Liane] #6230433
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Originally Posted By: Boone Liane
Cool looks don’t kill coyotes.

If they did, I’d have killed em all! grin
So...twist link is your preference ? lol


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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6230732
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I use tire chains for my coyote traps, they are super hard and cheap if you get them at auctions or yard sales


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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6230745
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Been there done that.


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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6230787
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One thing to consider if you plan to use twist link,is that due to the twist,there is less space inside the link.A J hook will fit through there but you will probably have to open up an end link to get a quick link through.If you look at 3N's and Newhouses with kinkless chain,there is a round,welded ring connecting the chain to the swivel.

I usually put the end link in the vice and use a screwdriver to take the twist out of that link.I then tap on the top of the link to make it open more.You have to make sure the weld isn't cracked,after doing this.If it does,cut it off and repeat.Thirty years ago,the welds rarely cracked.With today's chain,occasionally I work one that does.

I've used a drift pin to open links but with today's chain,I get more cracked welds so I quit using it.It might have worked better on old chain.

Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: Boone Liane] #6230826
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Originally Posted By: Boone Liane
Cool looks don’t kill coyotes.

If they did, I’d have killed em all! grin


x2 lol


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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6230967
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Ideally, I'd have good #2 machine chain on all my traps, maybe #3 on a few but I have never had any issues with #2. I too like the looks of the twist-link chain, but I don't think its any better on traps than machine chain. Something like this... http://www.minntrapprod.com/MB-2-HD-Straight-Link-Chain/productinfo/MB2CH-01/

Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6231011
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The twist link packs with mud more than the straight link IMO, and it's a little harder to clean.


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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6231295
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Straight-link, not twist-link.

I've converted all my wolf foot-holds to straight-link. No galvanized, stainless, or nickel-plated, so it will take a rust and a dye the same as my traps. The straight-link is stronger (tensile) than comparable-size twist-link, and in summer trapping where I catch lions, black bears, and possibilities of grizzlies, I want the chains strong. Also, the twist-link seems to pack more mud, so every time I boil and clean (deodorize) my gear, my boiling pot partially fills with glop when using twist-link.

Just my opinion, after many years of trying both types of chain.

Jack


Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6232059
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I appreciate all the thoughtful comments .


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Re: Chain, Machine or Twist link ? [Re: trapper les] #6232123
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I love how twist link flows and folds in nicely to a bed, but it does have some disadvantages over straight link. For one, the gaps in twist link are narrower and some rivets or quicklinks won't fit well through the links. It's really noticeable on #2 twist link, larger rivets and j-hook don't fit very easily in the links unless you widen them a little and that may weaken the welds. See in these pics of my #2 longs with short length of #2 twist link between swivels? I actually had to widen the end links to accept the j-hook for swivels, seriously. Larger #3 twist link no problem but #2 twist link it's a little tight in the link gaps.
I'm a fan of both but yes straight link is preferable to me these days too.
Either one is light years better than non-welded twin loop you get on some traps standard off the shelf these days.
Jim


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