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Fresh glands vs aged #6225726
04/24/18 03:35 PM
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I mostly age my coyote glands for 2 to 3 years I have good results with I have about a pint of fresh frozen glands I thawed out I'm thinking of preserve them and see how it works anyone use fresh they really have a good coyote smell even without any urine.

Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6225888
04/24/18 07:48 PM
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yes, I only use fresh preserved in my lures and as long as my customers keep telling me its working, then I'm good.

I know Paul and others rot glands for 2-5 yrs, though, and also have successful lures.

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Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6226035
04/24/18 11:27 PM
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I was thinking one of the profesional lure makers stated on here not long ago that aged glands were good when down a hole because they got a rolling response but fresh worked best for scent posts.

Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6226106
04/25/18 05:49 AM
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Golden colored cat gland is good for what ails you. Everything wants a sniff. Has to age, rot down, for a couple years minimum. That golden color isn't from urine either. Its just what good cat gland looks like after its aged.

Red Fox gland comes close to cat gland. Coyote gland is at the bottom of the three for usefulness IMO though I still use some. At times.


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Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: danny clifton] #6226152
04/25/18 07:26 AM
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For red fox, rotted and aged are far superior from my experience. The reaction is more intense. I want a fox to want to rub and/or roll on an odor. I found that some of the best lures provoke this reaction. Foxes will also readily urine mark an aged gland lure. Lots of trailcam footage verified what most of the old school eastern trappers have known all along. Hard to be a good aged red fox gland lure.


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Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6226284
04/25/18 10:16 AM
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Thanks we don't have many fox anymore the fox and cats come to coyote glands good I'm going to make some see how it works thank. Dave

Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6226340
04/25/18 11:13 AM
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I catch more fox off yote glands then I do using fox glands actually its visa versa! Fox on yote glands, Yotes on fox glands. Cats from all three with skunky fox glands being the biggest producer


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Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6226431
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Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6229953
04/30/18 08:33 AM
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It all depends on what response you want. rubbing or hard digging you may want a aged gland. a pass by scent post or flat set or summer scent you may want fresh preserved.

It has been said here many times. there are 2 ways to formulate a lure. formulate on a given reaction you want or formulate and see what happens. both need testing.


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Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6593572
08/12/19 11:44 PM
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Was doing some digging in the archives here and I was wondering if I could ask how to go about aging glands? I've got glands from 9 otter and was going to age some of them and use others fresh. Do you age them in a container? Sorry for the stupid question?


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Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6593631
08/13/19 06:29 AM
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Not stupid, I use a glass jar and cover with good urine, not trimmed clean,Surrounding fat,hair included.Add a couple things after year and a half and use shortly after. No preservative.

Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: tbn] #6593711
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So submerged them in good quality urine in a glass jar? Room temperature okay? Do I cover the jar and burp it occasionally? Thanks for the help.


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Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6593793
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I age mine a little differently.They are cut pretty clean and ground fresh.I like mine fairly thick,at least not runny,so I hold the urine till later,after it is aged a year or so and then add just enough urine to get the consistency I like.I age them mostly at room temperature.Figure a way to let gas escape but keep flies off.I will add a little glycerene just before season.

Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6594147
08/13/19 09:24 PM
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Thank you both, that helps a lot. I will have to experiment. Are you adding any sodium benzoate or just letting them literally rot?


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Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6594317
08/14/19 01:14 AM
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I personally just let it age.It just gets better.

Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6594351
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I do the same.

Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6594452
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For my cat gland lure, I use both. At the end of the cat season, I divide my glands and keep 25% in the freezer. The other 75% I rot down all year ...or longer. Then about two weeks before the season opener, I grind the glands that were in the freezer and add them to the rotted glands, along with some goodies like mink glands, rat glands, etc. (tiny amounts of those). It has great attraction.

Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6594521
08/14/19 12:30 PM
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Tracy have you ever tried anything similar on yotes? I like the thought process behind that formula.


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Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6594530
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Got a batch cooking right now. Gonna wait until mid-October and add the fresh stuff.

Re: Fresh glands vs aged [Re: concrete man] #6595065
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lol I figured you had! I got half a gallon cookin as well a pint of fresh ones should be close to 25% .Been saving my rat glands for a special occasion.Ive got almost a pint saved! Pinching yotes is pretty special!


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