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Welder advice #6235362
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So as I posted in the post I just posted about chain length, etc., I'm a newbie trapper. And one of the things I've noticed amongst some in the trapping community is the desire to modify traps. Which brings me to questions about welders.......two lines of questions actually..........

Line 'o' questioning #1.........recommend a welder for trap modification. 110v or 220v?

Line 'o' questioning #2.........should I save the money that I would spend on a welder and just by better traps? There's definitely pricing differences between say a Duke #2 and an MB-550 but to my untrained eye the MB-550 doesn't need to be modified whereas the Duke #2 could probably be.

We're talking coyote traps. And I am definitely a newbie hobby trapper....I'm just hoping to catch a few this coming fall, then see where the hobby takes me. (I think the answer to #2 is found in that last line........or I need to figure out what else to do with a welder).

Thanks!

Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6235398
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If you buy a welder you can do more than just weld traps. You can build
Rebar Stakes
Chain stakes
Drags
Sifters
Hammers
Fix the neighbors plow...
The list goes on and on and on.

My best piece of advice is to buy a bigger welder than what you think you need right now, and definitely get one with a gas bottle.


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Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6235401
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I use an Everlast 255ext, and an Everlast 275p mig welder.
They are both great welders for the price with better duty cycles than the red and blue industrial machines.

All welders should be 220-240.( I speak as a welder), however I have a little shoulder carry century 110 stick welder and I can run 3/32 6011 rods and weld up a lot of stuff with it.

So for modifications if your gonna go mig your gonna have to have a good 220, but if you run stick you could get away with a 110 for under 150$.

And a good welder will pay for itself time and time again.
More traps is always a great thing.
I would recommend Bridger #2, or #3 dogless or even dogon, these traps need very little mods and can be ready with a little file work and a wax job.

Hope this helps


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Re: Welder advice [Re: rednecktrapper] #6235570
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Originally Posted By: rednecktrapper
My best piece of advice is to buy a bigger welder than what you think you need right now, and definitely get one with a gas bottle.


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Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6235600
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If need be, I can do a trap mod with my old Lincoln 225 stick welder. And fairly ugly too .


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Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6235738
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I bought a 110 volt Hobart wire feed welder to weld Aluminum for work. I have been also using it for traps on weekends. Works great but- I'm with the other guys in the sense that you should buy a bigger one than what you need.


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Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6235786
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I do all manner of trap mods and all I use is a lil $100 harbor freight flux core welder and a grinder. That being said I'm up grading ASAP. If you can afford it get you a nice like might welder. The gas makes a nicer weld and causes alot less grinding. It's also more adjustable if you want to do a cast jaw or seamless style lamination.

But as some have mentioned you don't have to us your welder just for trapping.mine paid for it's self after a few tack welds on some farm equipment and some cattle pannel tomato cages.

Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6235901
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I would Google for some results. As Ken said, his little $150 stick welder will due more than some people think. You can get all kinds of reviews (some will be posted by welders) on quite a few choices.

Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6235925
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Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6236005
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Figure in the cost of the mods needed and add that figure to the cost of the traps per dozen. Then decide if you want a trap that needs mods or a trap that doesn't, for very close to the same total cost..


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Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6236059
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Thanks all for the advice on welders! Anyone else out there with an opinion I'd love to here it, especially on make/model.

Thanks!

Re: Welder advice [Re: Larry Baer] #6236227
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Originally Posted By: Larry Baer
I bought a 110 volt Hobart wire feed welder to weld Aluminum for work. I have been also using it for traps on weekends. Works great but- I'm with the other guys in the sense that you should buy a bigger one than what you need.


This is what I have, with gas. I have used it for ALL kinds of trap mods, and it has WAY more oomph than you need for that application.

I have also used it for all kinds of welding projects around the shop...welding up to 1/4" steel, and built dozens of 1/2" stakes as well. Totally disagree about a bigger model to do trap mods.

But...to answer your question from the top...if it is only to do trap mods, buy the best trap you can, and forget about spending all that extra time and money working on cheaper ones.

Now, if you have a bunch of extra time and money, and really WANT to do it, then a 110 Hobart mig welder with an argon tank will do anything you want with traps, and be rewarding as well.

Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6236295
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Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6236324
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My little 110 Hobart is one of the best “trapping” related purchases I’ve ever made.

I find myself using it several times a season to quick fix something. Anchor drivers, anchor pullers, etc etc. No more trying to hunt down a welder at a stupid hour to fix something.

Use it for a lot of stuff. Handy to have around.

Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6236555
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Go with the everlast powermts 221sti they are running a special $700 off the price on there website its a AC/DC Mig tig and stick all in one unit first of its kind. You will love it i can promise u this


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Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6236685
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40 + years a machinist, and most shops use a Lincoln 225 unless they do a lot of fab work.


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Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6236722
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I have Miller thunder bolt Stick welder. I see them on sale for around #400.00


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Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6236743
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I would never go back to a 110 welder. That said the Hobart 140 is a fine choice for casual use and will work great with gas.

Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6236765
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If youre just going to modiify traps a good 110v wire feed would be good, no need for gas. An arc welder would be difficult just for trap modifying.

Re: Welder advice [Re: SleeplessKnights] #6236775
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In the long run gas is cheaper than buying Flux core wire and grinding disks.

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