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#6240719 - 05/15/18 12:33 PM Fram Filters made in China now!
Law Dog Offline
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Always thought Fram filters were made in the US the last batch I got the other day were made in China great!
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#6240729 - 05/15/18 12:50 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
racerboy108 Offline
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Registered: 12/03/08
Posts: 3669
Loc: Perham Minnesota 54
Dang near everything comes from over there.

Trump is working on it though.

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#6240742 - 05/15/18 01:14 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
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Loc: Central, SD
Sent them a Email told them they are the last Fram filters I will buy!
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#6240761 - 05/15/18 01:43 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
beartooth trapr Offline
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Registered: 05/18/11
Posts: 2452
Loc: Montana
Wow just changed oil, in the truck and wife's car and used x'guard filters from fram. Guess I'll go to wix that's what I have used on my classic car for ten years now.

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#6240764 - 05/15/18 01:46 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
beartooth trapr Offline
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Registered: 05/18/11
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Loc: Montana
Very sad, because I have the old fram service board thsr grandpa had in his service station. It had the new seals for the old style oil filters

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#6240767 - 05/15/18 01:52 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
white17 Offline

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Registered: 03/17/07
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I guess I don't see why it's a big deal where a simple oil filter is made. Consider how much it would cost if it was made in the US. I suspect a lot of folks would be looking for something cheaper if that was the case.
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#6240769 - 05/15/18 01:55 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Tweed Offline
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Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
All this being typed on machines that were made in China...lol oh the irony.

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#6240770 - 05/15/18 01:56 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
charles Offline
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Registered: 08/28/10
Posts: 3970
Loc: Asheville, NC
Fram makes an inferior filter according to several utube mechanics who cut them apart and compared them to others.

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#6240782 - 05/15/18 02:22 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Tweed]
Hal Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
All this being typed on machines that were made in China...lol oh the irony.


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#6240800 - 05/15/18 02:56 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
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Registered: 07/15/16
Posts: 1086
Loc: NY
Check out Baldwin filters. Supposed to be made in the USA

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#6240805 - 05/15/18 03:01 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Tweed]
Law Dog Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
All this being typed on machines that were made in China...lol oh the irony.



How is that E machine working for you? LOL
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#6240814 - 05/15/18 03:13 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: white17]
Law Dog Offline
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Originally Posted By: white17
I guess I don't see why it's a big deal where a simple oil filter is made. Consider how much it would cost if it was made in the US. I suspect a lot of folks would be looking for something cheaper if that was the case.


They are the same price they were before so who's making out on this change the US worker the consumer or the Fram Corp? LOL Wix are $10 and yes I will pay that for a US made filter Fram missed the mark to make a little more money.


Edited by Law Dog (05/15/18 03:15 PM)
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#6240816 - 05/15/18 03:17 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
beartooth trapr Offline
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Posts: 2452
Loc: Montana
Just always hard to take, will there be anything that stays made truly in the great u.s.of a. Just saying. Heck who knows wix are foreign made to.

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#6240817 - 05/15/18 03:19 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Law Dog Offline
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Wix filters are made in many countries South Korea and Mexico to name a few I will keep looking!
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#6240833 - 05/15/18 03:47 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
cotton Offline



Registered: 12/22/06
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Loc: Piney va. soon be 19
dang fram is all i have used since i started driving.
time to change i reckon
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#6240837 - 05/15/18 03:50 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
lumberjack391 Offline
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Posts: 186
Loc: PA
"I guess I don't see why it's a big deal where a simple oil filter is made. Consider how much it would cost if it was made in the US. I suspect a lot of folks would be looking for something cheaper if that was the case."

The price usually stays the same or goes up. Some people still demand quality. Look at rubber footwear now mostly outsourced, the quality is terrible and they are up to a couple hundred dollars for brand names.

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#6240846 - 05/15/18 03:56 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: white17]
Getting There Offline
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Loc: West Michigan
Originally Posted By: white17
I guess I don't see why it's a big deal where a simple oil filter is made. Consider how much it would cost if it was made in the US. I suspect a lot of folks would be looking for something cheaper if that was the case.


I guess if you worked for fram and no longer have a job you would feel differently.
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#6240849 - 05/15/18 04:00 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Tweed Offline
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Posts: 3200
Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
You're right...government should intervene and force private companies to stay in the US despite what might be best for their business.

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#6240855 - 05/15/18 04:12 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 24524
Loc: McGrath, AK
I really doubt that losing a job packing some sort of fiber in a can matters much to the US GDP. Seems to me we should encourage low value manufacturing be done where labor is cheap to begin with. Much better to have China and Chinese make a small amount of money so they are in a position to buy high value items made by Americans in the US.

Fram is New Zeland owned and has been since 2011. Fram also owns Autolite. Anyone use those plugs ????

It's economically better for everyone involved to make products where capital can be allocated most efficiently.

Would you rather fight China economically or militarily ?
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#6240869 - 05/15/18 04:40 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
FlyinFinn Offline
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Registered: 11/18/12
Posts: 9588
Loc: MN
Maybe Cheeto will put on a oil filter tariff. That'll help.

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#6240875 - 05/15/18 04:45 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
FlyinFinn Offline
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Registered: 11/18/12
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Loc: MN
Replace pencil with oil filter and watch the video.

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#6240890 - 05/15/18 05:10 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Law Dog Offline
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Mr. no compromise can't keep his BS straight again! LOL
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#6240893 - 05/15/18 05:13 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Tweed]
Law Dog Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
You're right...government should intervene and force private companies to stay in the US despite what might be best for their business.


Never said that but that never stopped you before! laugh
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#6240900 - 05/15/18 05:24 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Tweed Offline
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Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Originally Posted By: Tweed
You're right...government should intervene and force private companies to stay in the US despite what might be best for their business.


Never said that but that never stopped you before! laugh


Jeeze Jerry....never said you did. Quit projecting. laugh

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#6240901 - 05/15/18 05:27 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Chuckles84 Offline
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Registered: 11/13/14
Posts: 784
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Check out CHAMP filters. We use them where I work. They are based in Albion Illinois. All of their spin on style filters are USA made, well put of the 10-15 that we stock are. Their cartridge style filters are hit or miss some are from china and some are from the USA.

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#6240902 - 05/15/18 05:27 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: FlyinFinn]
Tweed Offline
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Replace pencil with oil filter and watch the video.



"With help from the British government"

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#6240919 - 05/15/18 05:45 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Gary Benson Offline
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If McD employees get $15 bux an hour, our burgers will be coming from China.
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#6240924 - 05/15/18 05:53 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: white17]
Catch22 Offline
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Registered: 11/21/15
Posts: 5566
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: white17
I really doubt that losing a job packing some sort of fiber in a can matters much to the US GDP. Seems to me we should encourage low value manufacturing be done where labor is cheap to begin with. Much better to have China and Chinese make a small amount of money so they are in a position to buy high value items made by Americans in the US.

Fram is New Zeland owned and has been since 2011. Fram also owns Autolite. Anyone use those plugs ????

It's economically better for everyone involved to make products where capital can be allocated most efficiently.

Would you rather fight China economically or militarily ?

That sounds good I guess, but the Chinese don't make a good hourly wage. It's hard to trade with people when it takes them a year to save up for a bicycle, hence the trade deficit. We already lost TV's, computers, a lot of appliances and the like, so why not want to keep anything we can here.
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#6240925 - 05/15/18 05:54 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
nyhuntfish Offline
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Registered: 01/29/18
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Loc: NY, NY (And Southern Tier)
I lived in Greenville Ohio as a kid and I'm pretty sure Fram Filters were made there.

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#6240927 - 05/15/18 05:58 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
FlyinFinn Offline
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Registered: 11/18/12
Posts: 9588
Loc: MN
No surprise. Milty tells it like it is and the mouth breathers no comprende.

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#6240930 - 05/15/18 06:02 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Tweed Offline
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Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 3200
Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Flynn it was straight forward. The market can unite people across the globe that normally dont like eachoether because they all receive some sort of benefit.

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#6240946 - 05/15/18 06:17 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Finster Offline
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Registered: 03/13/13
Posts: 7953
Loc: Fredonia, PA.
Fram filters have always sucked from day one. Back in the days when I worked at my dad's garage, he wouldn't let one through the door. They have always been total garbage. Cut one open, then cut open a Wix ...... compare.
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#6240973 - 05/15/18 06:37 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 12837
Loc: Central, SD
Feel like a yard light in a area full of idiot moths! LOL They flip/flop more then a fresh caught carp!!

Never was looking for cheap I was looking for quality at a fair price a tough concept for the drama queens it appears. Carry on.
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#6240984 - 05/15/18 06:51 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 24524
Loc: McGrath, AK
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Feel like a yard light in a area full of idiot moths! LOL They flip/flop more then a fresh caught carp!!

Never was looking for cheap I was looking for quality at a fair price a tough concept for the drama queens it appears. Carry on.


Yep Jerry. Quality at a fair price is always the goal. You may not remember the aftermath of WW 2 when anything stamped made in JAPAN was considered junk. Look at the auto market today. You couldn't give me an American made car unless it's a Toyota made in the US. Better yet one made in Japan.
Work ethic and technology are both light years ahead of the US.

Quality at a fair price
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#6241001 - 05/15/18 07:24 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Tweed]
SwampRat83 Offline
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Registered: 08/26/17
Posts: 139
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: Tweed
All this being typed on machines that were made in China...lol oh the irony.


Haha yes, this is spot on!!! Always used Fram and will continue to use them.

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#6241003 - 05/15/18 07:25 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
SwampRat83 Offline
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Registered: 08/26/17
Posts: 139
Loc: MN
Or how many people use traps made outside the USA? The irony is heavy in here.

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#6241060 - 05/15/18 08:28 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
ringtailtrapper Offline
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Registered: 04/28/09
Posts: 1004
Loc: Illinois
Law Dog, check out this site.

www.champlabs.com



RTT
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#6241083 - 05/15/18 08:51 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
MsgRet Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1107
Loc: Wisconsin
But by golly they better keep buying our muskrat pelts.
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#6241103 - 05/15/18 09:15 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Scuba1 Offline
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Registered: 06/10/07
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Loc: On a Boat
To be honest, Now that the chinese make them, they may get better. Fram filters for me have always been just above a rolled up bit of crap paper for me. I try not to use them for things that matter
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#6241114 - 05/15/18 09:26 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: SwampRat83]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 12837
Loc: Central, SD
Originally Posted By: SwampRat83
Or how many people use traps made outside the USA? The irony is heavy in here.



You might be a duker but not me I don't own one!
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#6241120 - 05/15/18 09:36 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Scuba1 Offline
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Registered: 06/10/07
Posts: 3825
Loc: On a Boat
On a side note, As long as folks buy as cheap as they can, the chinese are smiling.
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#6241138 - 05/15/18 10:01 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Tactical.20 Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 12113
Loc: N.W. Iowa
They are a cheap poor filter, years ago a guy told me to cut a Delco, and fram in two and look to see what paper filter looks like in each one, the fram had about half the filter paper, I only buy wix filters, on sale every spring, my 35$ air filter was 16-17$ on sale


Edited by Tactical.20 (05/15/18 10:02 PM)

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#6241153 - 05/15/18 10:21 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: nyhuntfish]
KC Blues Offline
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Registered: 07/02/12
Posts: 31
Loc: Greenville,Oh
Originally Posted By: nyhuntfish
I lived in Greenville Ohio as a kid and I'm pretty sure Fram Filters were made there.
That is correct. Fram filters were made in Greenville, Ohio. Building is mainly a warehouse now.


Edited by KC Blues (05/15/18 10:21 PM)

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#6241156 - 05/15/18 10:24 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 12837
Loc: Central, SD
Some people shop for bargains and pray to the blue light and some folks shop for quality just depends how you look at the investment I guess!
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#6241178 - 05/15/18 11:02 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Tactical.20 Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 12113
Loc: N.W. Iowa
Half price is pretty good

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#6241252 - 05/16/18 05:26 AM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
micheal Offline
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Registered: 08/06/08
Posts: 2656
Loc: Saginaw, Mi
Buy low and complain
Buy high and complain
Don't buy and still complain

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#6241254 - 05/16/18 05:49 AM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
LBEE Offline
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Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 340
Loc: Missouri
My Moto : ANYTHING GOOD AINT CHEAP

ANYTHING CHEAP AINT GOOD

works for me !!!!

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#6241326 - 05/16/18 07:58 AM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: micheal]
FlyinFinn Offline
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Registered: 11/18/12
Posts: 9588
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: micheal
Buy low and complain
Buy high and complain
Don't buy and still complain

Truth.

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#6241341 - 05/16/18 08:15 AM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: FlyinFinn]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 12837
Loc: Central, SD
Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Originally Posted By: micheal
Buy low and complain
Buy high and complain
Don't buy and still complain

Truth.


Now that's a experts opinion there!
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#6241363 - 05/16/18 08:51 AM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
FlyinFinn Offline
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Registered: 11/18/12
Posts: 9588
Loc: MN
Better go look where that pine tree air freshener hanging on the rear view is made. Nowhere else can replicate that fresh pine smell like Murica.

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#6241644 - 05/16/18 04:47 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 12837
Loc: Central, SD
Was out in the shed working today so I checked out the Fram filters I have accumulated over the years and everyone was made in the USA so the China thing must be a recent change!
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#6241646 - 05/16/18 04:52 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Catch22 Offline
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Registered: 11/21/15
Posts: 5566
Loc: OH
Haven't you heard though Law Dog, Fram filters suck, and we mustn't care that another American Co has moved to China. Carry on.
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#6241647 - 05/16/18 04:53 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Chamacat Online   content
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Registered: 03/01/07
Posts: 1390
Loc: New Mexico
Yep..I have driven Toyota's some over 300,000 miles and had to change out a fuel pump once. Never had a bearing problem, oil pump problem.. rings or cranks..people said Fram was the way to go..I did look at a wix filter yesterday at $8.00 or so..maybe I will..maybe I won't..LOL.


Edited by Chamacat (05/16/18 05:16 PM)
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#6241663 - 05/16/18 05:23 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 12837
Loc: Central, SD
I change my oil often after working in the automotive field for many years and seeing the nightmares that came through the doors! I get the bug and start draining and changing out oil and filters guess they don't need to be great as often as I change them. I bought some Mobil 1 synthetic the other day will give that a try and see what it's all about at the next change.
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#6241666 - 05/16/18 05:36 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
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Loc: Fredonia, PA.
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#6241688 - 05/16/18 06:39 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Chamacat Online   content
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Posts: 1390
Loc: New Mexico
Yep..That works for me..Wix filters rock..LOL
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#6241691 - 05/16/18 06:52 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
beartooth trapr Offline
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Registered: 05/18/11
Posts: 2452
Loc: Montana
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
I change my oil often after working in the automotive field for many years and seeing the nightmares that came through the doors! I get the bug and start draining and changing out oil and filters guess they don't need to be great as often as I change them. I bought some Mobil 1 synthetic the other day will give that a try and see what it's all about at the next change.
Mobil 1, and fram have given my cars and truck many many miles
I change every 12000-15000. People think that crazy I say miles speak for them selves. Wife's car had 280000 miles on it and still ran good when we sold it. I think you will be happy using it to jerry.

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#6241694 - 05/16/18 06:59 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
Chamacat Online   content
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Registered: 03/01/07
Posts: 1390
Loc: New Mexico
Yep...Hold the phone..Just googled it up "Wix" oil filters are made on 4 continents..my..my..what to do..LOL
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#6241737 - 05/16/18 07:54 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
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Registered: 12/24/10
Posts: 789
Loc: west ny
We have bulldozer, excavator, tractors, dump trucks, lawnmower, cars, trucks, unleaded and diseal motors.. itís either wix, or Baldwin filters for oil air and hydraulic filters for us.
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#6241747 - 05/16/18 07:57 PM Re: Fram Filters made in China now! [Re: Law Dog]
bulldozerjoe Online   confused
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Loc: west ny
I do like wix cross reference page on there site
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