Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs
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If memory serves, ZTE was told they would be banned from selling anything is the US market place if they sold anything to North Korea. They did, the Trump administration found out about it and sanctioned them just like they said they would. It looks like the Chinese have asked the Trump administration to ease up on the sanctions because ZTE had to lay off too many people. And Trump is going to ease the restrictions so China doesn’t lose so many jobs. WHAT GIVES??? When did the Chinese ever change their rules to help American job holders??? It was all over the news in the last couple days. Looks like our president has a soft spot for both Russia and China these days.
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China has been putting pressure on NK to come to the table with the US favors for favors and
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It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!!
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It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!! Wrong there are a lot of things he has done that I dislike and I say so , and yes I other for him cause use the alternative was worse But I for one understand there is give and take in any negotiation and the end is what one has to be concerned with and NK with nukes is not something I want
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Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs
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If memory serves, ZTE was told they would be banned from selling anything is the US market place if they sold anything to North Korea. They did, the Trump administration found out about it and sanctioned them just like they said they would. It looks like the Chinese have asked the Trump administration to ease up on the sanctions because ZTE had to lay off too many people. And Trump is going to ease the restrictions so China doesn’t lose so many jobs. WHAT GIVES??? When did the Chinese ever change their rules to help American job holders??? It was all over the news in the last couple days. Looks like our president has a soft spot for both Russia and China these days. We know how reliable the news is. lol I don't see Trump giving up a billion dollar life style to be ridiculed and peed on by liberals and the media every day if he didn't want to help Americans. So if you're story were true, which I doubt, there is most likely something in it for us. MAGA is what I believe he's truly trying to do. No one is perfect but he's much better than the other choice we had IMO.
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It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!! It doesn't matter what he does, it will be wrong for those who did not vote for him. The news media does not like him because he made the look like fools and they want him out. JMO
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Teachers should stick to educating our children in reading, writing, arithmetic and throw in a little civics as well as studying the constitution and should keep their liberal ideas and socialist values out of the classroom. This country is sick of bad trade deals that have killed millions of good jobs. This POTUS knows way more about trade than the last city planner we had running the country into the toilet. Thank God Hillary did not get elected. She would have done the paper work and flushed. Fair Trade not bad trade. LLL
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It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!! It does not matter what he does because the left wing media will spin it in a bad light. 93% of the fake news is negative against the President of the United States. What they don't realize is we are on to them and the ones who elected him think the media are liars. LLL
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If memory serves, ZTE was told they would be banned from selling anything is the US market place if they sold anything to North Korea. They did, the Trump administration found out about it and sanctioned them just like they said they would. It looks like the Chinese have asked the Trump administration to ease up on the sanctions because ZTE had to lay off too many people. And Trump is going to ease the restrictions so China doesn’t lose so many jobs. WHAT GIVES??? When did the Chinese ever change their rules to help American job holders??? It was all over the news in the last couple days. Looks like our president has a soft spot for both Russia and China these days. We know how reliable the news is. lol I don't see Trump giving up a billion dollar life style to be ridiculed and peed on by liberals and the media every day if he didn't want to help Americans. So if you're story were true, which I doubt, there is most likely something in it for us. MAGA is what I believe he's truly trying to do. No one is perfect but he's much better than the other choice we had IMO. One thing we agree on. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Mr. President......he is doing a good job, unlike the last few.
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For those that don't want to go through the whole thing just skip to page 53 of the pdf (45 of the document) where it begins to list recommendations. Intelligence Report
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It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!! And where do you think we would be if that Hillary thing got elected?
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For those that don't want to go through the whole thing just skip to page 53 of the pdf (45 of the document) where it begins to list recommendations. Intelligence Report And Obama did what about it? Same as he did when he was warned Russia was messing with our last election? MAGA!!!!!!!!!!
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Exactly right, give something to get what you want. To many folks don't understand give and take, that's politics. The world is not black and white, it's the big grey area that confuses and infuriates people, but you still have to figure out a way to navigate through it. Like buying or raising fur today, or trapping for that matter.
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President Trump has made more successful deals that are good for America in his first year and a half in office and then any of the past several presidents combined during their entire terms.
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It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!! The numbers don't lie unless you're blind.
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It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!! And where do you think we would be if that Hillary thing got elected? One thing for sure, we'd be in the fight of our lives to keep our guns.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Teachers should stick to educating our children in reading, writing, arithmetic and throw in a little civics as well as studying the constitution and should keep their liberal ideas and socialist values out of the classroom. This country is sick of bad trade deals that have killed millions of good jobs. This POTUS knows way more about trade than the last city planner we had running the country into the toilet. Thank God Hillary did not get elected. She would have done the paper work and flushed. Fair Trade not bad trade. LLL X2! well said!!
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We had that for eight years during the last administration.
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For those that don't want to go through the whole thing just skip to page 53 of the pdf (45 of the document) where it begins to list recommendations. Intelligence Report And Obama did what about it? Same as he did when he was warned Russia was messing with our last election? MAGA!!!!!!!!!! Ah! Finally someone sees it....there's not much difference between Obama and Trump other than rhetoric.
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Except that President Trump has done more good for this country in a year and a half then Obama did during his entire administration. Other than that, you’re probably right…
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LOL, Tweed, Your the guy who doesn't "see it".
Trump, unlike Obama did put sanctions on them. You know, the ones he may loosen and ya'll are crying about? Why would he loosen sanctions against a company that is a threat to national security? Didn't Obama do the same with Iran? Did you even read the report?
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During the Bush and Obama years, our food shelf was providing food for 80-100 families per month and that number remained consistent. This month we served 56 families. The number has been dropping since last winter. In asking, we are finding that many have found work and are not in need of food like they were.
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LOL, Tweed, Your the guy who doesn't "see it".
Trump, unlike Obama did put sanctions on them. You know, the ones he may loosen and ya'll are crying about? Why would he loosen sanctions against a company that is a threat to national security? Didn't Obama do the same with Iran? Did you even read the report? Why didn't Obama even put sanctions on them, after reading your report that was written for him?
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It's unrealistic to think that President Donald Trump can get everything he wants from other countries, without some compromise. Giving in on some things is just part of making a great deal. Look at what President Trump has done for the economy, unemployment rate and American confidence.
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Iran, lol, that a good one Tweed! You don't even want to go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess the first thing that needs answered about your report is....... Why didn't Obama do anything about it? You answer that, and then we can talk about why Trump is backing off sanctions Trump himself put on them.
Till then, stop digging, that hole your in is getting deep. Man Hippie....you really sound like one of the liberals when Obama was first elected...."but but but Bush" "but Bush did this" "but Bush didn't do that" just so they could make their guy look good.
You ultra political types both conservative and liberal are all the same.... Excellent dodge to hippie’s question!
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Just to clarify, I don’t teach in the regular school system. I do teach food safety classes to restaurant managers. It’s an 8-hour certification class plus 2-hour exam and I’ve done it up to 50 times a year. In addition I’ve taught English at the middle school and college levels in China though that was years ago. Today, my teaching is in regards to restaurant managers based on onsite audit findings. Using “teacher” as a handle seems to make everyone think in terms of their own education or that of their kids. However, there are those of us who teach beyond that level of classroom.
I just find the pre-election rhetoric about saving American jobs, and the post-election rhetoric of saving foreign jobs ironic. Given the choices of who to vote for: someone who took personally attacking others for their actions to a new level vs someone who hid her actions in tens of thousands of private emails and lied about it not much of a choice. We ended up with a person who has been identified as having given us over 3,000 outright lies or mistruths in his time as president and I don’t know now which one would have been worse. But we have a president who plays golf every weekend instead of actively leading the country (after publicly chiding Obama about playing golf 8 times in his 8 years as president). We elected him and now we have to live with that decision.
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Just to clarify, I don’t teach in the regular school system. I do teach food safety classes to restaurant managers. It’s an 8-hour certification class plus 2-hour exam and I’ve done it up to 50 times a year. In addition I’ve taught English at the middle school and college levels in China though that was years ago. Today, my teaching is in regards to restaurant managers based on onsite audit findings. Using “teacher” as a handle seems to make everyone think in terms of their own education or that of their kids. However, there are those of us who teach beyond that level of classroom.
I just find the pre-election rhetoric about saving American jobs, and the post-election rhetoric of saving foreign jobs counterproductive. Given the choices of who to vote for: someone who took personally attacking others for their actions to a new level vs someone who hid her actions in tens of thousands of private emails and lied about it not much of a choice. We ended up with a person who has been identified as having given us over 3,000 outright lies or mistruths in his time as president and I don’t know now which one would have been worse. But we have a president who plays golf every weekend instead of actively leading the country (after publicly chiding Obama about playing golf 8 times in his 8 years as president). We elected him and now we have to live with that decision. I'm happy we made the right decision of the two choices.
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