I sit corrected.

Excactly if we did it their way we would have nothing.

They think the answer is to vote other politicians in to make the difference. That's laughable as all politicians compromise.

All parties included.

Stupid to put trust in politicians hands.

Stop giving the clowns attention might be the ticket it's not like the world does not know what the game is they like to play! Done feeding the trolls have better things to do then babysit grown adults.

At times I feel like you guys have bought Anne Frank's drum set from a shady Craigslist guy and I have to explain why Anne Frank probably didn't have a drum set, over and over.

"All politicians compromise."

I give an example of acceptable comprise:
Councilwoman Smith wants the library carpet to be blue. Councilman Anderson wants beige carpet. Coucilwoman Hanucksala doesn't care about carpet but wants LED lights. They work it out so that one agrees to the lights and the other support's the carpet color.

I now give an example of unacceptable compromise:
Anything concerning ANY, I repeat ANY amendments included in the document meant to restrain government. Very very simple concept. It isn't about trusting politicians, it is about opening your eyes and holding them accountable. Not through some intermediary organization, or even a single political party. You, with your vote and your political activism.

I believe that according to the OP's title, I have given solid reasons why I do not appreciate the NRA. I am not going on a hunch, I'm going on proven facts. I must point out that, although you are a staunch NRA man, you have not represented them well. I'm gonna stop, because I just had a thought. In your thread about the extra foam, you could use it to carve out NRA insignia's and sell them. Then donate the money to the NRA to use for more gun control policies. The NRA has always chosen their own path, it's in the books. REAL fight for the 2nd, is not the path they chose. Keep those blinders on and wind your way down to the barn. Also, I did not know Anne Frank had a drum set lol.

I bet you even talk in your sleep, don't you Catch?

Yes, I mutter freedom. What do you bring to the table?

So, best estimates and some long division indicate that in the whole wide USA only 10-12% of gun owners are NRA members.
Maybe if the NRA got up a list of things they have done to repeal Firearms control that they started, or a list of bills they wrote to counter firearms control the way they wrote the model bills for gun control back in the history and if they showed they were actually in favor of firearms freedom; well really anything except NRA promoting more firearms control they could get more gun owners to join.

If 10% of gun owners want to support gun control, they will and they will beat the tar out of Anne Frank's drums to get others to join them in self abuse. Go ahead and set a fox and a possum to guard your hens, then blame the owls for the dead chickens.

If that 10% doesn't want to hear from the 85-90% of gun owners that look, read and think before joining or jumping into the sea of lemmings, then that 10% ought to beat Anne Franks drum set where the non believers can't hear it.
The OP invited dissenting discussion.
I invited a factual list of NRA accomplishments. He got discussion and I got no facts to influence me to join NRA or even to think NRA is anything beyond a scam. I am still open to facts And figures. Name calling and BS just reinforce the idea that there is no proof that NRA is an advocate of firearms freedom or any freedom.
The NRA supporters on this thread have really diminished the NRA by some of their posts.

Know exactly who you are talking about. Great man did a lot for trapping.

careful there tjm the self elected baby sitter of adults will spank you

I don't mean to offend Danny, but when invited to comment it seems offensive to be badgered and called names for commenting. I still would like that list of deeds done.

I posted dozens of examples with links last month on yet another thread that the anti-NRA crowd here on Tman turned into an NRA bash fest. And then there were crickets...

Look it up if you want to, I'm not wasting anymore time trying to convince this apathetic anti-NRA crowd of anything. It's fine if you don't want to support the NRA for whatever reasons you may have, but why do these folks go out of their way to basically call supporters dupes that are throwing their money away? And why do they work so hard to dissuade folks from joining or continuing their memberships?

NRA supporters understand the organization isn't perfect but we choose to support them anyway because we are aware of the tremendous amount of good they have done in the war against gun-grabbers, despite what the anti-NRA crowd claims. Why does that seem to inflame so many on here?

And why, when ask repeatedly for for better alternatives, do we get no answers from those with the biggest mouths or anyone else? The only logical conclusion is that these folks enjoy complaining and running down other folks who are trying to fight the anti-2A movement in this country to the best of their abilities. It gives the complainers something to do I guess?

It also leads me to the conclusion that we, as gun owners, are going to continue losing as the Second Amendment continues to be whittled away. With maybe 20% of gun owners supporting various pro-gun organizations and the other 80% doing nothing or worse, complaining about and insulting those that do, we are doomed.

Not a complete list, but this is what a reporter found.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nra-outstandingly-successful-where-really-032510676.html

That was one of the links I posted last month hippie. One of the links that none of the anti-NRA crowd chose not to respond to. They just continued complaining without offering any alternatives.

Yea, i've posted it before also but maybe he didn't see it. I know the two anti's saw it and got quiet like they did when i started to post statements from/about their favored politicians.

Like trying to talk to any anti, they jusy ignore ya.

https://www.ammoland.com/2016/09/hillarys-nra-members-numer-one-enemies-list/#axzz5GVrcoQI4

When a life-long politician and anti gun person is asked who their #1 enemy is and the say the NRA, The NRA is doing something right!!!!!!

Lot of drivel on this thread from mostly bashers to the NRA. Rebuttals from the supporters are to most of the name calling and negative bashing of their support, wish people could just express their opinions and be adult enough to keep the other out, but it's always the same in emotional debates !

Basically one supports what they believe in and the other does not, however the name calling and worse has no merit to either argument and just makes the thread dead IMO !

GritGuy
I belive there are Discussions, Debates and Whizzing Matches.. I think some folks just can't do anything but jump in make things Whizzing Matches.

Mac

I dont have a problem with being accused of being anti gun control. Its the truth. I am. I make no appologies for it. Its why i support organizations who share my view and will not support those who do not.