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Re: Gas is climbing [Re: Tweed] #6245960
05/23/18 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
You only burn ten gallons a week? Do you have a job or work at home?


Originally Posted By: Tweed

Who uses only 10 gallons of fuel a week?


Actually, it is about every 2 weeks for me. It is a bit more for my wife since she is a full time homemaker. She gets to do most of the running. Probably about 15 gallons a week between the two of us.

100 gallons of fuel to ship product. Price went up $.50 ($50 more for freight). How many pair of jeans can a tractor trailer haul? 500 pair would be a $.10 increase per pair.

Jerry Jr.


Time is more precious than gold if you know how to spend it
.... but what do I know, I'm just a dumb farmer.~My Dad
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Re: Gas is climbing [Re: Jerry Jr.] #6245967
05/23/18 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Jr.
Let's say you burn 10 gallons of gas a week and fuel went up $.50. That is only $5 a week. I am sure that I can find other ways to make up that five bucks. Not sticking up for the oil companies but everyone makes it out like it is costing $50+ a week extra.

Jerry Jr.


Husband and wife commuting to work, transporting children, getting groceried, etc is more like 30 to 40.

If the gas tax went up .50 there'd be riots in the street.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Gas is climbing [Re: adam m] #6245977
05/23/18 08:33 AM
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I average around 160 miles a day. Getting expensive to work, for sure!


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Re: Gas is climbing [Re: adam m] #6246360
05/23/18 07:14 PM
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Re: Gas is climbing [Re: adam m] #6246373
05/23/18 07:44 PM
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$2.49 here.

Re: Gas is climbing [Re: adam m] #6246381
05/23/18 07:57 PM
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It was 2.96 today when I filled up my work vehicle.

I only use about 6 gallons a week in my personal vehicle when it isn’t hunting or trapping season. I figured that out because I drive about 8 miles to work and back and 6 miles to church on Sunday. I probably use double that during hunting and trapping. My wife does the same in her Jeep. Those are averages, we do have to drive about an hour to doctors appointments for our son to the children’s hospital every so often.

Truth be told, I don’t even pay attention to how much gas I use. I know I get a little over 16 miles to the gallon and I fill it when it gets to a quarter of a tank.


Now my work vehicle... I put between 50 and 150 miles a day.


Who is John Galt?

You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: Gas is climbing [Re: adam m] #6246384
05/23/18 08:05 PM
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We don't either. Bought a new vehicle 6 years ago and only have 46k on it. Getting 26mpg, that puts us about 6 gal. a week.

Re: Gas is climbing [Re: gryhkl] #6246387
05/23/18 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
Big oil's way of thanking us for the billions they got in tax cuts.
Nobody really thought we average working stiffs would get to keep the little extra that was put back into our take home pay, did they?


OK Mr. Economist, tell me how much profit "Big Oil" is making per gallon.

Or even their profit margin.
Compared to say McDonalds

You know , AFTER exploration, engineering, extraction, transportation, refining, more transportation, and a hundred other things.

Now tell me how much per gallon the Feds and state gov gets per gallon.
For doing NOTHING....

Re: Gas is climbing [Re: adam m] #6246396
05/23/18 08:16 PM
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http://www.gaspricewatch.com/web_gas_taxes.php

The United States federal excise tax on gasoline is 18.4 cents per gallon (cpg) and 24.4 cents per gallon (cpg) for diesel fuel. On average, as of April 2012, state and local taxes add 31.1 cents to gasoline and 30.2 cents to diesel for a total US average fuel tax of 49.5 cents (cpg) per gallon for gas and 54.6 cents per gallon (cpg) for diesel.


Some states charge an excise tax while other states have a flat tax. The below table displays state taxes plus fees, plus the 18.4 cents-per-gallon (cpg) federal excise tax. Additionally, some local counties may additionally charge an excise tax on gas, which is not reflected in this table. Please consult your specific local government for more information.

What do the state and local governments generate in fuel taxes?
For a chart of state and local revenues generated by fuel taxes, please click here.

U.S. Gas Taxes (cents per gallon)
State Gas Taxes/Fees (cpg) Diesel Taxes/Fees (cpg)
Alabama 39.3 46.3
Alaska 26.4 32.4
Arizona 37.4 43.4
Arkansas 40.2 47.2
California 69 79.5
Colorado 40.4 44.9
Connecticut 64.4 70.6
Delaware 41.4 46.4
District of Columbia 41.9 47.9
Florida 53.4 54.9
Georgia 47.8 56.3
Hawaii 68 75.2
Idaho 43.4 49.4
Illinois 62.8 70.1
Indiana 61.4 76.2
Iowa 40.4 47.9
Kansas 43.4 51.4
Kentucky 46.2 43.9
Louisiana 38.4 44.4
Maine 49.9 57.1
Maryland 41.9 48.7
Massachusetts 41.9 47.9
Michigan 61.3 64.4
Minnesota 46.5 52
Mississippi 37.2 43.2
Missouri 35.7 41.7
Montana 46.2 53
Nebraska 46 51.4
Nevada 51.5 53
New Hampshire 38 44
New Jersey 32.9 41.9
New Mexico 37.3 47.2
New York 69.6 75.1
North Carolina 57.6 63.6
North Dakota 41.4 47.4
Ohio 46.4 52.4
Oklahoma 35.4 38.4
Oregon 49.4 54.7
Pennsylvania 50.7 63.6
Rhode Island 51.4 57.4
South Carolina 35.2 41.2
South Dakota 42.4 48.4
Tennessee 39.8 42.8
Texas 38.4 44.4
Utah 42.9 48.9
Vermont 43.9 53.4
Virginia 38.6 44.7
Washington 55.9 61.9
West Virginia 51.8 56.5
Wisconsin 51.3 57.3
Wyoming 32.4 38.4


Who is John Galt?

You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: Gas is climbing [Re: DaveP] #6246656
05/24/18 06:27 AM
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At least one company is making over 6 BILLION MORE because of the tax cuts. The boost at the pump is just a thank you and an, "Oh, and by the way, we want the money you taxpayers now save because of tax reform."

Re: Gas is climbing [Re: adam m] #6246675
05/24/18 07:29 AM
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Could it be an early sign of inflation? Economy is humming along so more fuel is being used, more people working drive wages up so the oil companies need to pay more to keep the drills going.

Re: Gas is climbing [Re: gryhkl] #6246740
05/24/18 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
At least one company is making over 6 BILLION MORE because of the tax cuts. The boost at the pump is just a thank you and an, "Oh, and by the way, we want the money you taxpayers now save because of tax reform."


Let's remember that the "6 billion" they SAVED was theirs in the first place.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390443687504577563383982418536


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Re: Gas is climbing [Re: Tweed] #6246780
05/24/18 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
Could it be an early sign of inflation? Economy is humming along so more fuel is being used, more people working drive wages up so the oil companies need to pay more to keep the drills going.


It doesn't matter what oil companies need to pay, they don't set the price of oil.

I agree with Ken, I think much of it is geopolitical forces at work.

Also, generally a cure for high prices is high prices and a cure for low prices is low prices. When the price of oil go so low drilling slowed down quite a bit.

Oh, and inflation is coming, it was predetermined.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Gas is climbing [Re: adam m] #6247047
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And the increased price takes money from our pocket that is ours in the first place too.

Re: Gas is climbing [Re: adam m] #6247060
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The difference is unlike a tax, you have options. Ride share, walk more, ride a bike, get a vehicle with better mileage.

Re: Gas is climbing [Re: Rat Masterson] #6247129
05/24/18 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rat Masterson
The difference is unlike a tax, you have options. Ride share, walk more, ride a bike, get a vehicle with better mileage.



Great point for most!

I made a conscience decision to live close to work for this very reason. I can easily walk or bike to work and have been bike commuting year round now for 8 years.

Re: Gas is climbing [Re: adam m] #6247149
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High energy costs sucks more money out of the economy than nearly anything else.

Re: Gas is climbing [Re: adam m] #6247152
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315 a gallon Today

Re: Gas is climbing [Re: gryhkl] #6247154
05/24/18 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
High energy costs sucks more money out of the economy than nearly anything else.


Don't those that work in the energy industry benefit amd spend?

Pretty sure the USA has the lowest or ine of the lowest fuel cost in the 1st world. Still sucks that its more money out of my pocket and into someone else's.

Re: Gas is climbing [Re: gryhkl] #6247167
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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
And the increased price takes money from our pocket that is ours in the first place too.


No one is forcing you to buy it. Why would you blame the oil companies for the price increase. 70% of the oil in the world is owned by sovereign nations. The oil companies are buying the crude from those countries.

Point the finger at OPEC. They are the ones that cut production to force prices higher. Also the collapse of Venezuela has taken a half million barrels per day out of the market....then you can add the loss of Iranian oil due to sanctions. And don't forget the unrest caused by North Korea. The worry of war always pushes oil higher.

It's a wonder oil is as low as it is.


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