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Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: DelawareRob] #6246598
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Originally Posted By: DelawareRob
That’s what makes them harder to manage sometimes. laugh

cool


Goodnight, I gotta get up in 5 hours for work.

Goodnight Rob, been a blast!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: mnsota] #6246599
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Originally Posted By: mnsota
Please let them fade away without all the accolades! They did spend a certain amount of self resource displaying
a foundation,..or path if you will.
Jeeze, sometimes you feel like a carp in shallow water with Robin Hoods archers standing stoic but attentive,...
eyes on the prize!

That is one of the most honest and coolest post I've ever seen!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: mnsota] #6246600
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Originally Posted By: mnsota
Please let them fade away without all the accolades! They did spend a certain amount of self resource displaying
a foundation,..or path if you will.
Jeeze, sometimes you feel like a carp in shallow water with Robin Hoods archers standing stoic but attentive,...
eyes on the prize!


I understand, I don’t like all the pomp and circumstance as well. I’m taking about recognizing them personally and in private. Not with all that hoopla about prizes and walking them out for employee of the year. Unless that is what they want. I prefer to treat people how they like to be treated.


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Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: adam m] #6246605
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Originally Posted By: adam m
I do not consider myself a millennial but am on the boarder technically speaking (depending on generation scale used). Most 30-36 year olds I know we're raised with discipline (belt, chonclas, or anything else handy) are hard working,non cry baby no safe space needed.
I've worked very hard my whole life. Paychecks rolled in at 14 when I wasn't working I was playing baseball, working our field hunting getting firewood, helping dad with constant home projects etc...and am very far from a liberal or socialist.

When I think of millennials I think 20-29 year olds.


Having read many of your post I would not have put you in the millennial category.

With this post I find myself right there with you. I worked with my Dad since I was 12. He did allow us to go to school. However we did miss days to work on jobs. Raked crete, laid blocks, shingles, siding... He did it all and showed it all to us. Built my own house with his help.

Like you, I suspect I may be a generation or so old school. If there is something you want, then work for it. If I need a hand out then I guess you already bought my work boots. I have scratched crap with the chickens before, didn't like like it, but not above doing it again. Family come first. I will do whatever it takes for them.

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Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: Finster] #6246608
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If there is something you want, then work for it.

Had to punch this one in here! No better words have been said,..so true!

Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: Finster] #6246618
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Well, it's 230 in the morning here and I can't sleep, RA is a horrible thing, so I've had a couple tottie's and would like to send out a message to the millennials and Gen Z here on Tman and hopefully beyond. Generational gap, has always been there. When I was 9 I was delivering papers and mowing lawns in the neighborhood. My old man on Saturday mornings would wake up before dawn and come to my room and smack me on the forehead to wake me to get my work done. I was no fool and already had planned my day but to him, if I wasn't up before dawn, I was slacking. Until I was 14, then when he slapped my forehead and I woke up and told him, I have my day planned and stop concerning yourself with it did he give me his big toothy grin and say, what took you so long. Turned out, years later, he knew and loved having coffee with me on those Saturday mourning's. Us baby boomers and Gen X, were raised to be workers, we were raised to love our Country, our Flag, and it felt right. But it wasn't till I had a experience with my Grandpa that I really realized how wonderful our Country was. Grandpa was born in 1917 and ended up in the 14th tank battalion 9th armored division called the Phantom 9 in WW2. He was such a pleasant man. He was kind, generous, loving, caring and so hard working. He was love to all of us, and we to him. I was the thorn in his side cause I was the only one out of all us kids that ask him about his service and he always, with such love, was able to avoid me on that subject matter. Until one day, after Mam'ma passed. I would drive 4 hours to have breakfast with him an after on this one day he went to the basement and was rambling around, I hollered down to see if he was ok, he came up in full uniform with a picture album under one arm, and saluted me with the other. I started crying and he said, boy, your the only one who has ask me about my service so today is your day, you can ask me what you want and I will answer. I realize this is very long so I will not go into detail about the episodes, bullets flying, grenades and prayer. But I will say that as one of my questions, I ask him, how did he get through it and be able to come home to be such a good man. He replied, I was to get on the queen mary to france and I came to the ramp and stopped. I knew what was going to happen, so I said to myself..... Once I board this ship, I am no longer Jake and he clicked his heels together. When he got back, he reversed it. If any of us were to even brush up against a greatest Gen person, we should consider ourselves blessed. My point, albeit long, is, us Baby boomers and Gen X are worried sick that the Millenials and GenZ don't get it. This USA, is the best Nation in the world and we want you to love our Nation, our Constitution, our Flag, our Anthem, our Sovereignty and our way of life. To our fault you have received more of an indoctrination than an education. We, in a lot of ways have failed you youngins, but see through the BS and rise. Our Nation is the last of the Mohicans for real freedom. Raise your heads and look up, The BS your being taught is playing out live for you here, and across the pond. Fall in love with us and our great Nation. Give us hope for our precious Grandbabies. USA! Embrace freedom!!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: Finster] #6246653
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As a millennial, this offends me. I think I am going to need to take a personal day off from work to nurse my damaged emotions back to health. Grabbing a frapachino and retreating to my safe place now...

Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: Hutchy] #6246666
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Originally Posted By: Hutchy
As a millennial, this offends me. I think I am going to need to take a personal day off from work to nurse my damaged emotions back to health. Grabbing a frapachino and retreating to my safe place now...

As expected, there ya go little buddy...


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: Finster] #6246715
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I guess I'm a millennial, I was born in 82'. I had my first job at 12, started my own tree service business at 28, I do most all the mechanic work on my fleet, built my house and anything else needs done. I'm sure their a lot that can't, but I work for a lot of retirees from Florida and it never seizes to amaze me the stuff they ask me to do for them. These people can do nothing for themselves. I guess every generation has them

Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: RM trapper] #6246727
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Originally Posted By: RM trapper
I guess I'm a millennial, I was born in 82'. I had my first job at 12, started my own tree service business at 28, I do most all the mechanic work on my fleet, built my house and anything else needs done. I'm sure their a lot that can't, but I work for a lot of retirees from Florida and it never seizes to amaze me the stuff they ask me to do for them. These people can do nothing for themselves. I guess every generation has them


Interesting thread. I was born in 1951. I have a bad back and heart problems. I can do a lot of things but have reached a point where I would rather pay someone else to do them and spend my time doing more enjoyable things. As long as the elderly are paying you and not expecting freebies I have no problem with that. I pay others for their labor out of my own pocket and don't think I am entitled to have the government or society make my life easier. I also believe that most of the issues with the younger generations can be attributed to my generation and the environment that we, collectively, have created.

Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: Catch22] #6246735
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Originally Posted By: Catch22
Originally Posted By: DelawareRob
Sounds like fake news. I’m a millennial and I can install the light fixture and probably replace the wiring. The biggest problem I’ve noticed is the entitlement mentality of baby boomers. They are probably the hardest generation to supervise from a management perspective.



Baby boomers would be harder to manage cause you always know exactly where to find the millennial's. Either the safe place or the cry closet. grin


Coming from the guy who always has something to ***ch about.


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Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: Finster] #6246757
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Question: If these kids are too dumb to change a light bulb, what kind of job are they able to work to pay the rent in that place?

Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: Finster] #6246779
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I love your last post there.
Guess I'm just a old Boomer now? with both my kids right at the beginning of the Millennial group. I've notice that my kids seem to know so much more than a lot of their friends. General knowledge if you will, but I took my kids with me every where and showed them lots of things. So I think to say all of those that age are inept is probably grouping.
What drives me nuts and I think is the case with lot of the younger folks. Even some of the old folks I've met. They go to college or Tec school then come to a job with us old timers. We may have started the job right off the street apprenticed or learned our way into the position we now hold. They come in want to be in-charge right away because that is what school taught them. They know all about the job from the books and schooling. May even have a degree in how to manage people.
Never mind that that old guy they are now supervising may have had input or written the book they learned from. Just didn't have to need or want to be the boss and run the company or business, what ever..They think they know more..
But then I maybe just bitter because I got nailed twice last summer. Both times I tried to give input on something. It was a safety issue in my eyes for sure. Got snapped at told "I got This" Ok then I walked away.. Then one of them young guys even went back bad mouthing me around the whole group. Telling people I was just the old guy wants to run around telling everyone what to do.. Well no! was trying to see that none of the 20 somethings he was directing got hurt. But if there is a next time with this individual?? I may just stand there watch him get whacked. Hard as that would be for me to do.. I've never been that kind of person in those situations to not say Stop That! But then I've never had young ones pop off at me like that before either.
I for sure would have never gotten away with mouthing off like that.
I never demanded respect from anyone as I know that is something earned.
Don't think just being and old guy don't mean ya earned it either.

O-well I'm just a whiny old boomer.

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Re: Can millennials change a light bulb? [Re: Finster] #6246838
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The trend in first world countries has been softer and less self reliant people....early retirement, ability to pay for all services instead of being able to do some things for yourself, lack of knowledge as to what a good job is vs smoke and mirrors.........gotta have the latest and greatest things.

So, in essence, society has dictated softness and lack of self reliance by the standards society sets. Each generation becomes softer until it ends.


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With the cost of rent now days I could see someone expecting the changing of lightbulbs being an included service. I keep trying to talk my wife into getting a rental property, we could probably pay that mortgage and our own house mortgage with the rent.

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Originally Posted By: mutt
With the cost of rent now days I could see someone expecting the changing of lightbulbs being an included service. I keep trying to talk my wife into getting a rental property, we could probably pay that mortgage and our own house mortgage with the rent.


Especially in your neck of the woods! Those FIBS would pay a good price for a summer rental property. But....you'd have to change light bulbs for them.

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Well I guess I fall into the millennial category but I'm a lineman so I have the light bulb thing figured out and the high voltage side of things...but I do agree that most of the millennials are worthless

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All in fun Rob! I do admit though that you are the first person I have ever heard say baby boomers were harder to manage than millennial's. And I believe 9/11'ers was a term coined by Newsweek.


I’m not sure they even have a label yet. But they are in the workforce.

The boomers I have managed and have worked with seem to expect recognition and acclaim for just showing up and having “so many years service”. Because that is what they are owed.

Millennials that I have worked with and managed want to work hard and prove themselves because they know how they are perceived by everyone. They also want to be compensated and given promotions based on what they have accomplished and how they have performed. Not just time of service.






Wait until your managing Millennials that are of the age of the boomers your managing now, then you can compare apples to apples.

Bet those lazy boomers worked their butt of when they were 30 too.

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You’re right hippie I’m sure the millennials will change as we age, I sure hope I do anyway.

And I wasn’t trying to say the boomers aren’t hard workers, they do their job well. I’ve just seen them expect special treatment just for having 30 years, even though they do the same job and have the same qualifications or less than a person with 10 or 15 years. No generation is really bad or the best. You will find lazy people and exceptional people in all generations. We are like people that way.

And I’m not saying tenure doesn’t matter, it just doesn’t carry as much weight as some boomers or Gen exer’s think it should.



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exactly.

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