Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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And the boomers think Millennials and Gen Z are liberal? Boomers were trying to over throw the government in favor of communism and committing acts of terrorism. Yes I'll say no...we know it! Just because we knew how to have fun, doesn't mean we were stupid enough to vote Democrat.
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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Problem is if people don't prepare for old age and they can't let them die in the street then collecting for the future seems like a smart plan. I can see the ones with the 401K plans being taxed to pay for the ones that did not plan for the future through bad luck or bad choices. Heck your already paying for dependents you will never meet every day.
The collection rate for SS is a joke (very outdated) but political suicide for anyone to take on, I got a $25 raise last year not sure when there was any raises before that.
Just don't see the advantage of a bunch of seniors being on welfare/aid/EBT that paid zero into anything when SS could offset that in many cases.
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Jerry Herbst
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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[quote=Catch22][quote=Tweed]And the boomers think Millennials and Gen Z are liberal? Boomers were trying to over throw the government in favor of communism and committing acts of terrorism. I'll say no...we know it! Just because we knew how to have fun, doesn't mean we were stupid enough to vote Democrat. Nice necklace hippie.
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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Just don't see the advantage of a bunch of seniors being on welfare/aid/EBT that paid zero into anything when SS could offset that in many cases. Work unless you physically/mentally cannot work, if you did not save you do not retire. For those who physically or mentally cannot work SS disability should come into play.
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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Just don't see the advantage of a bunch of seniors being on welfare/aid/EBT that paid zero into anything when SS could offset that in many cases. Work unless you physically/mentally cannot work, if you did not save you do not retire. For those who physically or mentally cannot work SS disability should come into play. That would be SSI that is retirement for many that don't need it and they can start to collect the Max at any age they qualify for it.
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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Nope, SSI is for those who have low income or haven't earned enough credits to draw SSDI, or never worked.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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SSI is a disability coverage look it up!
It is designed to help aged, blind, and disabled people, who have little or no income.
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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SSI is a disability coverage look it up!
It is designed to help aged, blind, and disabled people, who have little or no income. Exactly, which contradicts your 1st statement. If the people Donner was talking about had accrued enough points they would qualify for SSDI. SSI is not a blanket for all.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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Kicks in at anytime you physically cannot work and are approved for it, my SS statements always listed the rate you could get SS at, so much at 62-63-64-65 and now 66.
The last listing was for if you became unable to work at any age then you get the highest amount right away THAT is want I said you should really see some one and get some professional help!
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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Clearly you don't understand the difference between SSI and SSDI. Both have their own criteria to meet. Continue on lol.....
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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It's all the same program listed together at the site even, one flows into the other and Medicaid even comes into play at some point just your pointless nitpicking games!
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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I’m 21, been working a real job since 14, not counting mowing lawns in town and helping at the farm as a young kid. Started a savings account when I got that job at 14 and I also have a Roth ira. There might be a lot of my generation that just wants everything to be handed to them but not me. I wouldn't even say "a lot" I meet more hard working people in their early 20s now than I did 15 years ago. Will be interesting to see what generation Z accomplishes.
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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Of course, we could cut our bloated military, instead of a program that millions of Americans rely on to keep out of poverty.
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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Of course, we could cut our bloated military, instead of a program that millions of Americans rely on to keep out of poverty.
Jim So you want to cut a government make work program that keeps people out of poverty? I'm with you!
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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There must be some flaw in the idea, if you are for it, Dirt.
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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials.
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You could say that all the assistance programs are "government make work jobs" millions of government workers on the collection side and millions more government workers on the disbursement side. And millions more government workers standing watch over all that.
You and you and all the rest of you are Government dependents. Everybody either works for the government in some fashion; or works for an industry that sells to or services the government;or works in a field subsidized by the government; or works in job selling to or servicing those who work for the government.
The entire economy is a giant Ponzi scheme and the Savings God is a scam. Maybe?
So, when these smart youngins take over and get us off the debt produced fantasy economy of the last 50-80 years, the economy crashes, the banks fail, the government can't use debt to keep it together any more; how will those 401-roth-etc plans come out?
Even if it is only a minor correction such as 1929, how will those special funds fare? I guess, what I'm asking is how do you pick which funds/banks/whosits won't go down the tubes with all your savings? Aren't they all scams?
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