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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: Catch22] #6246980
05/24/18 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: Catch22
Originally Posted By: Tweed
And the boomers think Millennials and Gen Z are liberal?

Boomers were trying to over throw the government in favor of communism and committing acts of terrorism.



Yes
I'll say no...we know it!

Just because we knew how to have fun, doesn't mean we were stupid enough to vote Democrat.

Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6246983
05/24/18 03:41 PM
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Problem is if people don't prepare for old age and they can't let them die in the street then collecting for the future seems like a smart plan. I can see the ones with the 401K plans being taxed to pay for the ones that did not plan for the future through bad luck or bad choices. Heck your already paying for dependents you will never meet every day.


The collection rate for SS is a joke (very outdated) but political suicide for anyone to take on, I got a $25 raise last year not sure when there was any raises before that.


Just don't see the advantage of a bunch of seniors being on welfare/aid/EBT that paid zero into anything when SS could offset that in many cases.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: hippie] #6246987
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Originally Posted By: hippie
[quote=Catch22][quote=Tweed]And the boomers think Millennials and Gen Z are liberal?

Boomers were trying to over throw the government in favor of communism and committing acts of terrorism.


I'll say no...we know it!

Just because we knew how to have fun, doesn't mean we were stupid enough to vote Democrat.


Nice necklace hippie.

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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: Law Dog] #6246991
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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Just don't see the advantage of a bunch of seniors being on welfare/aid/EBT that paid zero into anything when SS could offset that in many cases.


Work unless you physically/mentally cannot work, if you did not save you do not retire. For those who physically or mentally cannot work SS disability should come into play.

Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6247004
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Originally Posted By: Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Just don't see the advantage of a bunch of seniors being on welfare/aid/EBT that paid zero into anything when SS could offset that in many cases.


Work unless you physically/mentally cannot work, if you did not save you do not retire. For those who physically or mentally cannot work SS disability should come into play.


That would be SSI that is retirement for many that don't need it and they can start to collect the Max at any age they qualify for it.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247018
05/24/18 04:31 PM
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Nope, SSI is for those who have low income or haven't earned enough credits to draw SSDI, or never worked.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247021
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SSI is a disability coverage look it up!

It is designed to help aged, blind, and disabled people, who have little or no income.

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Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247022
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I'm 36 self employed and just recently started saving(IRA) my wife is a nurse and she contributes 15% into her 401k and they match 5%. I bought a second home in Ohio because I love to hunt and fish, I lease 800 acres in Illinois and make several trips a year up there hunting. The men in my family usually don't live past 70 so I'm enjoying life now while I feel like it, and saving some too. I've watched many guys save their whole life just to retire and sit in a recliner wink

Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: Law Dog] #6247041
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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
SSI is a disability coverage look it up!

It is designed to help aged, blind, and disabled people, who have little or no income.

Exactly, which contradicts your 1st statement. If the people Donner was talking about had accrued enough points they would qualify for SSDI. SSI is not a blanket for all.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247042
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Gubmint LOVES folks who work until they're 75 and don't draw S.S.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247053
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Kicks in at anytime you physically cannot work and are approved for it, my SS statements always listed the rate you could get SS at, so much at 62-63-64-65 and now 66.


The last listing was for if you became unable to work at any age then you get the highest amount right away THAT is want I said you should really see some one and get some professional help!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247057
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Clearly you don't understand the difference between SSI and SSDI. Both have their own criteria to meet. Continue on lol.....


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247069
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It's all the same program listed together at the site even, one flows into the other and Medicaid even comes into play at some point just your pointless nitpicking games!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247079
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If you have worked for enough time that the government has stolen enough of your money to pass an arbitrary theshold you qualify for ssdi, which is more $ than ssi. If you have never worked and had money stolen by the government, you qualify for ssi, which is less $ than ssdi. It's pretty straightforward, really.

Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: ] #6247198
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Originally Posted By: BadgerTrapper97
I’m 21, been working a real job since 14, not counting mowing lawns in town and helping at the farm as a young kid. Started a savings account when I got that job at 14 and I also have a Roth ira. There might be a lot of my generation that just wants everything to be handed to them but not me.


I wouldn't even say "a lot" I meet more hard working people in their early 20s now than I did 15 years ago. Will be interesting to see what generation Z accomplishes.

Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247692
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Of course, we could cut our bloated military, instead of a program that millions of Americans rely on to keep out of poverty.

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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: James] #6247699
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Originally Posted By: James
Of course, we could cut our bloated military, instead of a program that millions of Americans rely on to keep out of poverty.

Jim


So you want to cut a government make work program that keeps people out of poverty? I'm with you!


Who is John Galt?
Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247821
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There must be some flaw in the idea, if you are for it, Dirt.

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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247909
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You could say that all the assistance programs are "government make work jobs" millions of government workers on the collection side and millions more government workers on the disbursement side. And millions more government workers standing watch over all that.

You and you and all the rest of you are Government dependents. Everybody either works for the government in some fashion; or works for an industry that sells to or services the government;or works in a field subsidized by the government; or works in job selling to or servicing those who work for the government.

The entire economy is a giant Ponzi scheme and the Savings God is a scam. Maybe?

So, when these smart youngins take over and get us off the debt produced fantasy economy of the last 50-80 years, the economy crashes, the banks fail, the government can't use debt to keep it together any more; how will those 401-roth-etc plans come out?

Even if it is only a minor correction such as 1929, how will those special funds fare? I guess, what I'm asking is how do you pick which funds/banks/whosits won't go down the tubes with all your savings? Aren't they all scams?

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Re: Social security, baby boomers & millennials. [Re: harleydparts] #6247930
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The biggest scam of all is when the Government borrowed a large sum of money from social security about 30 years ago and never paid it back. Don't ask me to prove what I say, I just know my wife watched for years ,before she passed, to see if the Government ever paid any of that money back, and she never did tell me the money was repaid.
If anybody can find any information out about this little scam, I would like to know how it was ever settled, if it was ever settled.

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