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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6250962
05/31/18 07:50 AM
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They should have stopped them when they could. There were 13 in our own ranks that got that law changed and now as the antis grab more (which they always will) who is really surprised. LLL


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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251142
05/31/18 12:37 PM
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You can open a cam from a dinky little animal like a fox or western coyote with your fingers,a large animal that has a 75 lb spring fully compressed-no way in Hel are you going to loosen off a toothed cam or amberg wedge with your fingers.
I will put one on your wrist and yank it hard and watch you panic trying to get it off without cutters.

Last edited by Boco; 05/31/18 12:42 PM.

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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251302
05/31/18 05:02 PM
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That’s a shame.

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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251361
05/31/18 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: Larry Bowden
Very important need to voice your opinion to SD GF&P asap.


I know a bunch of trappers that tried this a few years back. They don’t listen.

Good luck

Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251399
05/31/18 08:56 PM
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Our Gfp is focused on one thing $$$$$. We cater to all of these nonresident pheasant hunters and have no thought of anyone else. Ill be at the meeting but i have a feeling that this is already a done deal. Anyone remember the Duck hunting proposal. It was 2 to 1 against adding more out of state license's but they still went ahead and opened up more lisc. That wasnt just the resident's either, that was alot out of state guys saying they want it that way so they can have a quality duck hunt and most of them drew duck tags every other year. This is all about where the money comes from $$$$$$$

Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251476
05/31/18 11:31 PM
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Our Gfp is focused on one thing $$$$$. We cater to all of these nonresident pheasant hunters and have no thought of anyone else. Ill be at the meeting but i have a feeling that this is already a done deal. Anyone remember the Duck hunting proposal. It was 2 to 1 against adding more out of state license's but they still went ahead and opened up more lisc. That wasnt just the resident's either, that was alot out of state guys saying they want it that way so they can have a quality duck hunt and most of them drew duck tags every other year. This is all about where the money comes from $$$$$$$


I'm sure there are plenty of big buck chuck resident pheasant hunters that would whine if their dog got tangled in a snare, although why they would be hunting public land, I don't know. There's plenty of bird hunters on the south side of Sioux Falls metro that look down their noses at trappers. 10 grand in a super papered dog and fancy gun makes them think they should have more say in this state than everybody else.

I'm fairly neutral on our state agency, they are a mixed bag, but if you want to criticize them for kissing up to big money, we only have ourselves to look in the mirror for the reason. As far as I know, SD GF&P gets no general fund money. If the agency only survives by selling licenses and other fees, they are in a tough place to please everyone so big buck squeaky wheels get the grease...


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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251517
06/01/18 12:43 AM
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With the proper ground work laid in place small buck squeaky wheels get greased as well.

Put in the effort and it could work out for you guys in the end.

Good luck Larry, if there is something I could do to help let us know.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251593
06/01/18 08:24 AM
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Thanks for the offer Steve. We appreciate your support.
We can make a difference if our resident trappers will take a few minutes and express there opposition to the GF&P commission. It needs do asap to be counted.


Western SD Fur Harvesters, SDTA, NTA, FTA and life member of NRA. Cancer survivor (7 years) and still fighting it.
Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: nimzy] #6251623
06/01/18 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: nimzy
Originally Posted By: Larry Bowden
Very important need to voice your opinion to SD GF&P asap.


I know a bunch of trappers that tried this a few years back. They don’t listen.

Good luck


Not so Nimzy.
A few years ago In SD 13 SD trappers got non residents booted out.


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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251707
06/01/18 12:50 PM
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Mother nature and the market would have accomplished the same thing if they would have been patient.

Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251729
06/01/18 01:18 PM
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Not so Nimzy.
A few years ago In SD 13 SD trappers got non residents booted out. [/quote]

So very true!


If you are considering yourself to be someone of influence and importance, just try ordering someone elses dog around sometime.
Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251732
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We might not be correct on our numbers Beav, 13 or so trappers started it by petition, and another couple 100 joined it in support at the public hearing


If you are considering yourself to be someone of influence and importance, just try ordering someone elses dog around sometime.
Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251785
06/01/18 02:59 PM
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Agree or disagree with those 13 guys but they showed what a motivated movement can accomplish.

Ultimately, supreme power belongs to the legislature if the SDGFP isn't helpful.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6251985
06/01/18 08:07 PM
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If your going to tell a story at least tell a true story without all of the drama BS! How is a 90+ season booted? I don't like it either but booted is total crap!

Do a little research and see how many species are closed to NR in other States check NV, MI, MT start there then look in the archives for many past discussion before buying into a few cheap shots being thrown around!




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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6252046
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Apparently rich and beav didn’t write. I never trapped in SD but I wrote on the behalf of the NRs and they didn’t listen to me.

They let that state get diseased out and ate down. Not enough pressure I suspect.

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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Law Dog] #6252057
06/01/18 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
If your going to tell a story at least tell a true story without all of the drama BS! How is a 90+ season booted? I don't like it either but booted is total crap!

Do a little research and see how many species are closed to NR in other States check NV, MI, MT start there then look in the archives for many past discussion before buying into a few cheap shots being thrown around!





Well did you vote to limit Non resident Trapping In SD?


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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6252071
06/01/18 10:30 PM
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Why did you guys have to hijack Larry's thread.

Start a different one.


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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6252086
06/01/18 10:54 PM
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As an avid upland bird and waterfowl hunter AND trapper, the guy who's dog was caught needs to realize that it is PUBLIC land. Like was stated already, trappers have helped pay for that public land just as much as other hunters and anglers. If someone is so concerned about traps being on public land then they should keep their dogs off of it. I hunt upland birds and waterfowl with my dog about 50 days per year on public land. While I do think option #3 is a reasonable compromise, I also think that if #3 is put in place, it will eventually lead to more restrictions on trapping. Once the anti's get their foot in the door, there is no telling what other kind of regulations they may come up with.


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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6252096
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Was the guys dog injured?


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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations [Re: Larry Bowden] #6252104
06/01/18 11:18 PM
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I can see BMP in SDs future.
Have fun with CRs,

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