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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6251491
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At a good jackpot,you will have wolves,foxes,lynx,fisher,marten,mink,weasels,squirrels,skunks,rabbits,and various types of birds and voles all feeding off the bait.I have no doubt that in the pecking order,certain animals feed first.I don't agree that one animal will keep away from where a larger animal has been.I know that all smaller animals want to know what other larger animals are up to as it can mean an opportunity to scavenge some food.
A fox will follow wolves,it is common to see fox tracks and wolf tracks together,no doubt the fox is following the wolves,not the other way around.
Many times fox and wolf are snared together at the same jackpots,and boxes set close by produce marten weasels and the odd fisher.
To answer your question then,I don't believe it is a "comfort" response.It is a chance to check out a potential free meal where other predators/scavengers have been.

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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6251551
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I monitor a bunch of cameras on bear baits in Sep & Oct. Most of the bait is donuts. It is very common to see fisher & marten on the same bait but never at the same time. When the bears go in I sometimes bait with beaver. Weasels, martin & fisher will all be on the same bait (at different times) some nights. I only put one beaver out last year at a location where a bobcat was seen. It took 26 days for the fisher & weasel to show up and they showed up on the same date. The fisher never came back or worked the bait. I caught the weasel the first night I set a trap there.




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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6251582
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Great pictures, EB. That weasel sure looks determined. I guess that beaver wasn't worth skinning?

Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6251609
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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6251618
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I mostly bait with donuts and no weasels come to donuts.








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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6251627
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I had a beaver here & did trap a fisher and a marten after the snow came.






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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6251631
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Mixing glands to create a "comfort factor", Hmm, I don't know about that. For marten and fisher I doubt it really hurts anything though.

Reminds me of an experience I had when I was a kid.
I had a pet mink "Donald", in addition to trapping I worked at a local mink farm a bit, my friend's dad owned it.
One evening after skinning a weasel I had trapped, I put my hand into Donald's nest box in order to pick him up. I barely got my hand into his box when he hit my hand like a machine gun, puncturing it like a pin cushion. Note to self: never do that again.


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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6251632
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Something moved the camera. The fisher cleaned out this beaver FAST.





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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6251636
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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6251801
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love the lynx pic

Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: MB Coonguy] #6251862
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Originally Posted By: MB Coonguy
love the lynx pic


That lynx made short work of the beaver & I got about 200 photos of it. I hung the camera after he started on the bait.




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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6251998
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Reminds me of this pic eb.


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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: Boco] #6252495
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Originally Posted By: Boco

Reminds me of this pic eb.


Your lynx appears to be sleeping. In Maine we can only "camera trap" them.

Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6252757
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Originally Posted By: joepennanti
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Flyer?


Yep.

Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6257005
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Mixed glands, in my opinion, create more of a curiosity lure, than an aggressive territorial response lure, like the example you mentioned of weasel glands added to mink glands. A lot of my lures use glands from multiple mustelids, along with muskrat, beaver, etc. When blended/ formulated right, some lures will attract every passing fur bearer, no matter the species or family. I can catch all my species, using the same lure, if I want. During colder weather, I will sometimes use an additional call lure.

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PM'ed you Joe....

Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: ebsurveyor] #6258475
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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
Originally Posted By: Boco

Reminds me of this pic eb.


Your lynx appears to be sleeping. In Maine we can only "camera trap" them.


Full stomach.....

Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: joepennanti] #6258680
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Originally Posted By: joepennanti


Fisher kill marten/weasel.

Marten kill weasel.


And coyote kill fox and cats but they all go to the others smells.


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Re: Maine trapper mixing weasel marten fisher glands ? [Re: trapped4ever] #6260146
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Originally Posted By: trapped4ever
Mixed glands, in my opinion, create more of a curiosity lure, than an aggressive territorial response lure, like the example you mentioned of weasel glands added to mink glands. A lot of my lures use glands from multiple mustelids, along with muskrat, beaver, etc. When blended/ formulated right, some lures will attract every passing fur bearer, no matter the species or family. I can catch all my species, using the same lure, if I want. During colder weather, I will sometimes use an additional call lure.


I agree with the above. I have not beat around the bush that long, only fifty years or so. Never once after spending literally hundreds and hundreds of hours on snow shoes in winter, or when out scouting have I have witnessed where a mink hunted a weasel down, or a fisher hunted a weasel down, or anything of the like. In my not so humble opinion, a lot of old myths become almost a fact if they are talked about long enough. Not only have I not witnessed such behavior I have never talked to someone that is really active in the outdoors that has either.



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