Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: NonPCfed]
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06/03/18 09:49 PM
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P.S.S. I think fishers are really cool and catching one is on my bucket list so I checked the northern woods states to see where I might go someday in the future. As of when I checked a couple of years ago, MN was out as a NR unless I owned land, WI has a limited lottery system for fisher so my chances of pulling a tag there would be slim, and MI bans NR trappers from about 20 states, including both Dakotas so it looked like NY might be my best shot. Their laws will probably change in the next 10 years so that will probably be out. Bummer...
I would not worry about New York State DEC restricting non-residents for Fisher. Our state will give away the farm if they can make a few bucks on a trapping license. I think you are safe on your bucket list quest. Come get 'em Brother trappers. walleyed
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/03/18 10:37 PM
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NonPCFed, Next weeks commission meeting is in Aberdeen on the 7th and 8th. If you can't attend to voice your opposition the best thing to do is get on the website. I have given step by step instructions on the original post. After listing your name and address just follow the instructions on the site. You need to click on the "oppose" box and if you want just type in that you oppose the entire proposal. This has to be done this weekend. Thanks for helping, Larry where is this meeting at and what time can public comment?? nevermind i found it on first page 2 pm at ramkota.. but need to verify time !
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Law Dog]
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06/04/18 12:49 AM
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Just what you have been doing on this post lumping all into one looking at the negative and not the positive, threating to not support others, ya that's they way to do it! LOL Seriously If you guys deserved any support, perhaps you would get it........
If you are considering yourself to be someone of influence and importance, just try ordering someone elses dog around sometime.
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/04/18 04:48 AM
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if they deserved it they absolutely would get my support. if im not welcome I don't see why my time or money would be either
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/04/18 05:07 AM
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I'd like to see KS restrict NR from states who impose different regs on NR than resident, limit them to 20 traps and no snares. coyotes taken only in regular fur season and 200 dollar per cat tagging fee along with a furbearer license.
complete restriction on residents of states with no non resident trapping. some of those MN guys don't deserve that but a lot of them do. think they are special. state hop their selves then work to keep the NR ban.
Like I said I would agree to pay more for my resident license if those rules were implemented.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/04/18 09:22 AM
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If the restrictions placed on Nonresident rat trappers In SD would have been because of a biological reason I could go along with It. But It was nothing but a greed issue. And for that reason I can't support Any SD trapping Issues and that would go for MN to.
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/04/18 09:47 AM
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Why the week delay on coons by you then for NR Beav? Why can't a NR trap fox and yotes in NV or Bobcat, Marten, Otter, Fisher in MI, Only yotes in MT is that OK then, it seems to be.
Never heard of a guy that makes augers that can't trap through the ice, SD ice must be tough Rich, this is personal with you it seems, as all SD is bad but you have buddies in MN let that sink in a bit.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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I don't see a big deal.If you want to trap there,go live there.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/04/18 09:52 AM
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They enjoy complaining about it more then doing any trapping it seems!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/04/18 10:12 AM
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complaining?....think not Informing the general trapping public of whos asking for help, and what theyve done to help there fellow trappers out in the past.....YES, as so EVERYONE knows who asking for help....
Oh, and BTW....ran my mouse traps today......
If you are considering yourself to be someone of influence and importance, just try ordering someone elses dog around sometime.
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/04/18 10:28 AM
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Just for the sake of clarity, non residents can trap coyotes, red fox, and swift fox in NV. Cats and grey fox are off limits.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/04/18 10:31 AM
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Here is why so much of this is BS and has been for years.
1. We both agree that it's not the preferred season the way it's set up yet you lump all of us in with the 13 and only negative and childish is accepted. Looking at what's is a available is not allowed and it ruins the narrative for you.
2. While other States have restrictions/limits for NR that is always ignored, again to allow the childish games that some play!
3. Greed is often brought up yet when the rats fell below $5 most interest was lost so does greed apply to both ends then? It always cracked me up that the focus in always on the RATS but never the other critters we have that are quality furs. Some how $75 yotes are unwanted and we don't have take limits for NR either last I checked.
4. My preferred way to trap rats has always been through the ice it's just easier for me, no mud to deal with and no boat needed to get around just a pull sled, auger, spade and traps and your in business. Also I'm chasing K-9s/coons in the fall rats fill in the slow times.
5. Trapping in SD would be like going to Disney World for a kid for many trappers if you don't come then your missing out!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Steven 49er]
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06/04/18 10:32 AM
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Just for the sake of clarity, non residents can trap coyotes, red fox, and swift fox in NV. Cats and grey fox are off limits.
Still a restriction on NR is my point Steve!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/04/18 10:34 AM
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The coon set back was Implemented I think before I was born It was to restrict all the coon Hunters that came up from Illinois. So It just kind of spread over to trapping.
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: The Beav]
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06/04/18 10:49 AM
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The coon set back was Implemented I think before I was born It was to restrict all the coon Hunters that came up from Illinois. So It just kind of spread over to trapping. So how is that any different then? You have the same power to change that as I do to change what we have going on here. Love to keep playing but just got called into work so you guys keep arguing about who got the red lollypop while I'm gone!
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Jerry Herbst
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/04/18 11:25 AM
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Jerry, I don't think the argument is so much over the limiting of trapping rights by other states. It's more the fact that there are factions of trappers in the 2 biggest states for this (MN,SD) that are actively trying to keep out others. Yet all the while they're travelling to other states to trap.
Why would I send money to help fight anti's in either of those 2 states when it is quite apparent they don't want me to come trap there?
For the record I have no problem with a state limiting takes on certain species if the reason is for sound biological reasons.
You can come to PA and trap exactly what I do, when I do. I'm not sure about the use of CR's. I don't know if you'd be required to take the course, or if they'll accept a course from another state.
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Re: South Dakota proposed trapping regulations
[Re: Larry Bowden]
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06/04/18 11:40 AM
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Changing something that has been in the books for decades and implementing a new law because of pure greed are two very different things. Minnesotians should never been allowed to trap there but other states with true NR trapping got the shaft because of one reason. Don’t matter much anymore I suppose as fur trapping for actual profit is about over. Maybe someday I can go back to South Dakota and kill rats for the highway department. That would be fun Do hope you guys don’t lose snaring. State by state as everyone becomes more urban and trappers die off regulations taking things away are going to I’m afraid become the norm
Ah,for the life of a millionaire,say some,but just let me stay a trapper. Bill Nelson
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