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Montgomery Step Ins #6254695
06/05/18 08:52 PM
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This Montgomery is in good shape but I can't read the pan.It has an outside jaw spread of 6 1/2".Is this a number 4?

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6254701
06/05/18 09:06 PM
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I believe so, have a couple in a bin out in the garage but am to lazy to dig them out. There is one in a lot worse shape than the one you show on E-Bay for sale for $35.95 shocked

Zim

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6254704
06/05/18 09:08 PM
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Yes that should be right, #4 I got 2 of them . Some where lol

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6254709
06/05/18 09:17 PM
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Thanks guys.I know what you mean,Beartooth.I just unearthed this one in a garage cleanup.I estimate it's been there for over 20 years.

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6254767
06/05/18 11:49 PM
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Oh my taxi I need to find them 2 I got, haven't seen then now for 4-5 years now. Think I'll get them ready for fall.

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6254792
06/06/18 05:06 AM
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old stock-what are they worth

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: micheal] #6254899
06/06/18 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: micheal
old stock-what are they worth

Are they low lever or high lever?


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Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6254906
06/06/18 09:21 AM
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I'm not that familiar with them Red,but I'd guess,low.I'll get a picture up later.

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6254918
06/06/18 10:09 AM
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Guys I remember the #4 being 6 1/2" on the INSIDE....might be a #3

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6254920
06/06/18 10:14 AM
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Low lever?

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6254958
06/06/18 11:25 AM
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The glare sucks, but you can still make out the measurement.....this is a #3. Taximan's is a #4.

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Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6254984
06/06/18 11:53 AM
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Thanks J.Morse.I figured there would be about 1/2" between sizes.In the days when the Montgomerys were made, those were pretty typical dimensions for 3's and 4's.That has changed some,in recent years and it gets confusing.I think most #3 longsprings were typically 5 1/2" and #4 longsprings were 6".Also,listed jaw spreads were outside measurements.That has changed some in recent times and also confuses things.

A few small changes would make this a pretty good coyote trap.The pan tension isn't bad,as it is.Four coiling would make it even better and I believe the levers could be made to rise higher.The metal in those Montgomerys could be brittle so you have to be careful if you bend the jaw tips.The swivels could be better and can be brittle too.

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Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6254997
06/06/18 12:29 PM
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Taxi #3 Bridger levers will fit those Montys to make them high lever traps.


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Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6255016
06/06/18 12:57 PM
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Thanks,Etex.

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6255026
06/06/18 01:12 PM
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Yes thatís a low lever. The low levers had the 90į corners on the pan. High Levers have the angled cut pans.

Montana levers are a better fit than bridger levers in the ones Iíve converted.

Cut the crossframe and weld back together when you get the levers switched, baseplate to strengthen it all and youíre good to go.

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6255067
06/06/18 04:01 PM
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Jim, I've just cut the levers out, and heat and roll the inside edge. Cut a washer in half and weld to the top of the lever to have enough to get ahold of to set the trap. I did that to all my old montys and they lock up super, just fit them to the flats above the taper on the jaws!


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Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: Taximan] #6255588
06/07/18 11:04 AM
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Thanks Lee.Looking at them,I thought that might be a plan.

Re: Montgomery Step Ins [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6255623
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Originally Posted By: lee steinmeyer
Jim, I've just cut the levers out, and heat and roll the inside edge. Cut a washer in half and weld to the top of the lever to have enough to get ahold of to set the trap. I did that to all my old montys and they lock up super, just fit them to the flats above the taper on the jaws!
I did almost the same thing to my Victor low levers after changing the jaws from square to round.

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