Re: Banana coon bait
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Dried banana chips work great in summer and fall.
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Re: Banana coon bait
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Does anyone add anything to banana bait looking for a good summer coon bait thanks I don't use a banana bait for raccoons, but for summertime trapping raccoons aren't picky. Sweet paste will get their attention, virtually any combination of fruit or fruit oils. I wouldn't overthink making a raccoon bait especially for ADC raccoons. Best part of trapping summertime raccoons, is that you already know they are there.
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Re: Banana coon bait
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paw paws taste like sweet bananas to me. make a wonderful crème pie. every critter im aware of except bobcats eats them and not certain about bobcats.
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Re: Banana coon bait
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Jonesie. Do you have and feral feline issues with banana based baits?
Tom IME cats don't go to sweets, and I often used Blackies Fur King or the recipe I post above to avoid cats but get furbearers.
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Re: Banana coon bait
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Jonesie. Do you have and feral feline issues with banana based baits? Is that why the DP guys like them? I don't use cages very often and can relese them there, but DP's change things.
Tom No cats do not seem to get caught in DP's with banana or sweet base baits or lures. I guess there could be some exceptions, because I have caught feral cats in cages using banana and other sweet baits. I do not think it was the bait that got them in the cage, but maybe curiosity and also I think they may be attracted to the rodent smells that the mice and chipmunks leave in the cages as they steal the sweet and banana baits or go for those lures.
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Re: Banana coon bait
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Does anyone add anything to banana bait looking for a good summer coon bait thanks We all know it isn't hard to make a bait and lure that will take animals...agreed? JMO, the most overlooked element is the reasoning for the animal to hit that bait. I know a lot of people who make their baits and go off of their own sense of smell, but still buy commercial bait and lure. JMO that is a negative, and don't make sense. That step where you're using your sense of smell comes after you have made the odor the animals have told you they "like" or are attracted to by testing ingredients in the field that is attracting them by physical signs. Then try to duplicate the odor and even then there may be slight variations in odor, due to where you got the ingredients on the first run. Just because it smells good to you or someone else is having great success doesn't necessarily mean its going to hammer home catches for you. I carry multiple bait and lure on my adc line due to the fact they are geared for the time of year that I find work best. Some work great in the heat and don't attract ants and flies, cold weather etc. Knowing why you're adding something to a bait or lure will benefit you more than just tossing some oils into a base, and it will also save you money because you DO NOT need to lace up bait and lure with a ton of oils to have an effective attractant, all that verbal judo is BS. Sounds and looks good on a forum page but not necessary. On the flip side, if you do throw something together and its a hit out in the field, take the time to find out the (what and why) factor for that attraction. When positive sets run dry, you will find that diets will play a big role and put more money/fur into your traps on the summer line. That is how you find a "good summer bait".
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Re: Banana coon bait
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'Coons WILL lick a garbage can clean that has bbq sauce in/on/or otherwise, gotta have a lot of smoky molasses bbq sauce on chicken bones, ribs, garbage, any good chow with bbq sauce smeared will bring the whole family of'Coons, they'll be after faster than a bloodhound after a criminal! LOL, they don't howl, just chatter all night long, them 'Coon will take metal and all, cardboard barrels the'll eat the cardboard, these days plastic barrels are open seasons, do not have to jar any of it, just expose it to them 'Coon! Viola! Coon Crazy! You Got 'Coon! in your pocket/shed/truck bed/over your shoulder everywhere! It's the molasses that has the neurotransmitter in it!
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Re: Banana coon bait
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'Coons WILL lick a garbage can clean that has bbq sauce in/on/or otherwise, gotta have a lot of smoky molasses bbq sauce on chicken bones, ribs, garbage, any good chow with bbq sauce smeared will bring the whole family of'Coons, they'll be after faster than a bloodhound after a criminal! LOL, they don't howl, just chatter all night long, them 'Coon will take metal and all, cardboard barrels the'll eat the cardboard, these days plastic barrels are open seasons, do not have to jar any of it, just expose it to them 'Coon! Viola! Coon Crazy! You Got 'Coon! in your pocket/shed/truck bed/over your shoulder everywhere! It's the molasses that has the neurotransmitter in it! lmao, lemme tink f0 a min. open jar...dip a stick hang or smear in cage...move on... Or mess around with bbq and chicken bones or whatever else you got going. lol What if I bury the bait with salted sand, will it improve?
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Re: Banana coon bait
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'Coons WILL lick a garbage can clean that has bbq sauce in/on/or otherwise, gotta have a lot of smoky molasses bbq sauce on chicken bones, ribs, garbage, any good chow with bbq sauce smeared will bring the whole family of'Coons, they'll be after faster than a bloodhound after a criminal! LOL, they don't howl, just chatter all night long, them 'Coon will take metal and all, cardboard barrels the'll eat the cardboard, these days plastic barrels are open seasons, do not have to jar any of it, just expose it to them 'Coon! Viola! Coon Crazy! You Got 'Coon! in your pocket/shed/truck bed/over your shoulder everywhere! It's the molasses that has the neurotransmitter in it! lmao, lemme tink f0 a min. open jar...dip a stick hang or smear in cage...move on... Or mess around with bbq and chicken bones or whatever else you got going. lol What if I bury the bait with salted sand, will it improve? NO NEED TO JAR IT! GET THEM GRILLS A SMOK'IN! NO NEED TO SMEAR IT! JUST EXPOSE TO THE 'COON, 'COON COME RUNNING, STAY ALL NIGHT, ALL NIGHT FOR WEEKS! BEST TO BE CLOSE TO A WATER SOURCE! 'COON MARRIOT HOTEL GRAND OPENING! SEMI-TRUCKS LOADED WITH 'COON CAGES, ARRIVING SOON! BEAR LOVE'UM ALSO, BECAREFUL YOU MAY HAVE BLACKIE BEARS TO VISIT ON YOUR RETURN! ADD A BIT-O-HONEY CHOW ON A DOZEN BUCKETS OF BBQ RIBS AND CHICKEN 'SPECIAL' LOADED WITH 'BLACK' BLACK STRAP MOLASSES BBQ SAUCE, GET THE BIG BUCKETS! TRUCKLOADS, PILE'EM UP IN CAGES OR ANYWHERE! AND EXPOSE THEM TO THE'COON, THEY'LL LOVE 'UM! CALL KFC, POPEYE'S, CALL ALL OF 'UM, CHICKEN, RIBS, ANOTHER GOOD'IN IS CHICKEN AND RIBS FROM THE SMOKEHOUSES (A TAD BETTER), GATHER ALL THROWOUTS AFTER HOURS, SAVE A LOT TIME EATING! 'COON COME EASY! NO NEED TO SKIMP, HAVE A LOT OF 'COON! 'COON AMOUNG THE EASIEST CRITTERS ON EARTH TO GET EATING, THEY'LL BE TELLIN THERE GREAT GREAT GREAT GRAND 'COONS FROM DECADES PAST, WE HIT THE MOTHER LOAD! COME OUT OF YOUR SKINNED HIDES AND SHOW UP, YOUR CHANCE TO REGROW YOUR HIDES! HARD TO BEAT! GOODE 'OLE SWEET CORN/MILK IS A CLOSE 2nd, 'COON KNOCK DOWN HALF THE FIELD TO GET AT IT! HICKORY / MESQUITE SMOKED 'BLACK' BBQ BLACKSTRAP MOLASSES TAD BETTER! THAT HARDWOOD SMOKE HAS A BIT OF ENZYME IN IT, CAUSE 'COON TO LOOSE THERE INTELIQ! "A THOUSAND 'COON"+ MAYBE MORE! MAKE SURE YOU HAVE 'COON IN THE AREA, THEN THEY'LL PASS THE MESSAGE OUT FOR MILES AROUND, SAVE FUEL AND LEGWORK! AND DON'T JAR IT, LET IT AGE A FEW DAYS OR SO 'OPEN AIR'! HAVE "PLENTY" TRAPS! YOU'LL NEED 'UM! SEND THEM BANANAS TO THE APES, THEY LOVE'UM!
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Re: Banana coon bait
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07/07/18 12:19 PM
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looking for a good summer coon bait thanks Just another example of IMO a "good" summertime coon trapping bait is sweet edible paste and in your face trap placement. This coon was wreaking havoc in a horse barn. Homeowner looked up all types of ways to trap them by using canned sardines, peanut butter and jelly sammich, marshmallows cooking grease and a bunch of other online methods that were supposed to put a raccoon in a trap. Homeowner has video of the racccoon walking right by his trap. Out of those baits I've used marshmallows that had an edible bait&lure on them with good results in the past. Keeping things basic and relatively simple has been key for taking raccoon for me in cages. Thick sweet paste placed in the back of the cage with an occupier if you feel you need one, which is a good idea because it serves as eye appeal and a stimulant to pique curiosity and IMO is better than relying on just their sense of smell. Adc work, the animal is already there, so some super strong calling bait&lure IMO isn't needed, and a lot of those "loud" bait&lures are overrated. If you're summertime raccoon trapping I would "assume" it's for adc purposes, if I'm wrong it doesn't matter because more times than not...the method works. ^5 This method in the field for fur trapping is effective as well, but like anything else placement is key. I use the same method in the winter months on a lot of raccoon with no issues. Just keeping it simple not over thinking the job and be confident in your setup. Confidence relates to knowing your animals habits, and giving your best educated guess on placement if there is no consistent pattern with video or distinct travel path. You don't need some elaborate setup or bait with 15 different ingredients in it to hammer coons. Being some what educated on the animals you target has more value than just throwing ingredients together hoping its a hit with wildlife. Example, having a good idea or knowing why your adding X to Y and what affects it has in or on that animal. This will expedite the learning curb and put more $ and fur in your traps. This was just a raccoon that had an attraction to the barn, but it was an expensive raccoon. No heavy lifting in raccoon trapping. My setup was simple, edible attractive paste hanging from the cage placed in the middle of the barn front entry.
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Re: Banana coon bait
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I sure like good reads like this tdhp thanks I enjoy good reads as well. I would just remember to throw some of these reads back with a grain of salt and before thinking you need all these things to trap an animal, sit back and think about that animal and how it acts and present an attraction to it. Have a plan before you start the job. You will see sooner rather than later how easy most critters are to trap by utilizing their environment against them and to your advantage. Every now and then a little trickery is needed on some but it isn't as serious as some portray it to be, don't need a phd to trap raccoon. Sometimes it's just a case of the animal not being there at the time you place traps, but they'll be back. FYI that isn't a sign you need to go and change up your bait&lure or search the internet for the (SUPPAH DUPPAH ELITO) bait and lure that's been aged for years, not necessary. That's why you set multiple traps with different setups, (simple) setups. I would also take in consideration and this is JMO, adc work isn't about the numbers because you can only trap what is there. If your bait is working don't change it. I stick with what works, even if I see that others are using a particular bait and lure having success, if I'm getting the job done then I don't need to "enhance" or add anything. FIGHT THE URGE! Sounds repetitive but its true this game isn't hard by any means. The "you need this and that" is tougher to get past than actually coming up with a good summertime bait.
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Re: Banana coon bait
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I found that you don’t necessarily need to hang the bait from a stick if the bait is edible. You can just smear it on top of the cage at the point you’d ordinarily hang a bait stick.
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Re: Banana coon bait
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I found that you don’t necessarily need to hang the bait from a stick if the bait is edible. You can just smear it on top of the cage at the point you’d ordinarily hang a bait stick. You don't need a bait stick, but for me it serves a few different purposes. 1 object to hold bait&lure. 2 Stimulant as simple as it looks, it's a factor. 3 to see what it does to the object. I've had bait sticks worn down by them licking the bait, to them eating a portion of the bait stick to eating the whole thing. That's just things I note when I'm trapping critters on a bait&lure.
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