Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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He could get injured and have to be put down. Just think of the horse nooky he'd be missing out on. If it's a stallion.
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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The owners have enough of his DNA on ice to repopulate the entire world with horses of his line. Running again is just trying to prove the point of "my horse is better than yours"
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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Plus, I'll bet he's insured to the hilt.
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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He could get injured and have to be put down. Just think of the horse nooky he'd be missing out on. If it's a stallion. Hate to tell you this but horses of that caliber do not bread. they are artificially inseminated
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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They are giving that horse a hand gallop as we speak.....and freezing it ......
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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Ifrc even Secratariat ran a few after he one the the triple C. (Dont think there will ever be a horse fast as he was)
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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He could get injured and have to be put down. Just think of the horse nooky he'd be missing out on. If it's a stallion. Hate to tell you this but horses of that caliber do not bread. they are artificially inseminated Actually nra, I believe you are incorrect. Thoroughbreds of this caliber are breed naturally (well in breeding barns). The breeding programs are part of the racing culture. All the big fancy farms in Lexington and Paris Ky, where Windstar (Stage Magic) and Adena Springs (Ghostzapper) are, have and use their breeding barns to produce race horses like Justify.
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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Comparing the Super Bowl to the Triple Crown is silly. You don't see horses attempt to repeat the TC. I don't know if it's rules due to age?
Just checked, the TC races are open to 3 yr old horses.
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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Ifrc even Secratariat ran a few after he one the the triple C. (Dont think there will ever be a horse fast as he was) X2 to bad that as a stud he proved to be a dud hopefully justify the Ill be able to pass his traits on to his offspring
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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The owners have enough of his DNA on ice to repopulate the entire world with horses of his line. Running again is just trying to prove the point of "my horse is better than yours" And he probably is the best horse out there. But, what happens to his stock if he would happen to lose a race? Does his stock suddenly take a hit?
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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I'm thinking Ghostzapper's stud fee is going up...
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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They are giving that horse a hand gallop as we speak.....and freezing it ...... That's a dishonorable discharge...
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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pretty sure that AI isn't allowed in thouroughbred racing...
If i owned that horse, there would be 5 clones of it already on their way..... not for racing, but for breeding...
its already done in Polo, and there are a few articles about it.... the top guy (from argentina) has a stable of all cloned horses...with a worth somewhere around $100 million...
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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I stand corrected. looked it up and you are right Gary.
I lived across from a family that raised thoroughbreds and I would have bet that they used A I on some of there horses.
Sorry Gary Benson
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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WOW, I don't get this move, why RISK another outing?? He's proven he's won the 3 most important races= Triple Crown.
I just don't see the upside, tons of downside: injury, loses...
..hummmmm To prove he's the best horse ever...Thats why
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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Originally Posted By: Bristleback
WOW, I don't get this move, why RISK another outing?? He's proven he's won the 3 most important races= Triple Crown.
I just don't see the upside, tons of downside: injury, loses...
..hummmmm Timbrem: To prove he's the best horse ever...Thats why
LOL, "to prove he's the best horse ever....That's why."...
..ummmm that's a real longshot at this point, but hey I like an underdog too! Justify is not doubt a great race horse, but hardly going to enter the mix of the greatest race horse ever......replacing arguably #1 Secretariat?? Justify didn't dominate the Triple Crown races like Secretariat did. Justify didn't have the speed/time nor the dominating finish Secretariat did over the field. I know the sloppy track conditions, and the Apollo Curse was broken...
..again Justify is a great race horse. I just don't think he replaces #1 Secretariat.
Then toss in the wild card of Restoring Hope, did he help Justify?? I tend to lean toward, each horse had a race to run, run your own race.....Justify won, wire to wire in the Belmont. Look at Gronk, he was out of the screen, dead last by several lengths......and finished 2nd......he ran his OWN race. Secretariat times: KD 1:59 Preakness 1:53 Belmont 2:24 Justify times
.. KD 2:04 Preakness 1:55 Belmont 2:28...all round numbers.
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Re: Triple Crown winner: Justify to run again......WHY
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WOW, I don't get this move, why RISK another outing?? He's proven he's won the 3 most important races= Triple Crown.
I just don't see the upside, tons of downside: injury, loses...
..hummmmm Good question, but things have changed over the years. There was a 37 year span that we had no triple crown winner, then along comes American Pharoah. American Pharoah is the only horse to have won the triple crown, and the breeders cup classic in the same year. The breeders cup series was not even in place 37 years ago, so Pharoah was a the first horse with that opportunity, or better put to make that claim. Now the reason the owners of Justify wish to keep him running is simple. They will more than likely race him in the Haskell invitational( Monmouth Park), and the Travers stakes(Saratoga). These will be races to keep him fresh for the breeders cup classic(Church hill downs) this fall. If Justify wins both his prep races for the classic, and caps off the year with a classic win, then they could lay claim to a horse with a completely undefeated season as a 3year old, while winning the triple crown, and the classic. American pharaoh didn't even accomplish that, and he had three triple crown wins, plus a classic win. His loss came in the Travers stakes. Pharoahs life time stats were 11 starts and a record of 9-1-0 only finishing out of the money once. If justify could put together an undefeated 3 year old season, with the triple, and classic wins, then that would be a feat that would put him far and above so many other past winners of the triple crown, and classic. I think one could claim him as one of the greatest if he accomplishes this, and I say that due to the fact of the amount travel required, and so many different track surfaces, and conditions, across a span of the whole season. That would be the complete package, and something very special if it happens. Odds are against it happening, but it sure would be fun to see happen. RTT
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