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beaver job #6258633
06/12/18 08:12 PM
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beaver dam in small creek causing flooding and concerns for neighboring industrial park, went today and inspected the dam, no damage to trees in sight, can't see any beaver hut in good size marsh land, all probably a couple of feet deep. Land Owner wants beaver removed and water level lowered as neighbor is getting very nervous.
How would you go about it ?





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Maybe you might describe what tools you have got to work with. What are your limitations?

Re: beaver job [Re: Traps R Us] #6258688
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Kirk De, Owner says whatever it takes. Limited by what's legal.
Thanks Aix sponsa, will try to get a handle on the population numbers. I am stomped by not seeing any sign yet, so they might be a ways away actually. Usually beaver activity has not been that hard to spot.

Re: beaver job [Re: Traps R Us] #6258783
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That looks like an easy one.I would make a break in the dam about a foot deep and a foot wide as a draw,then I would set 6 sets lured with Bob Wilson's on the dam near the break,on each side,with the closest being about 10 feet from the break,and the rest 10 feet apart along the dam.Make sure no water is running over the dam where you make the lured sets.
After catching a few with the lured sets I would set the dam break itself with multiple submerged 330's out in front to take the stragglers.
After that I would rip the dam and return the water to natural flow,then check the house entrances for tracks in the mud to make sure all the beaver were eliminated.

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Re: beaver job [Re: Traps R Us] #6259037
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not sure setting the dam is legal for agents in WI, I think it's not, but have to check.
would you still use a castor based lure or more a curiosity food lure?

Re: beaver job [Re: Traps R Us] #6259110
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Bob Wilsons for me works all summer.
If you cant set the dam,look for the house and set the shoreline both sides between the dam and house.
If you want to get rid of a nuisance problem,why wouldn't you be allowed to set the dam?

Re: beaver job [Re: Boco] #6259127
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Wisconsin Regs, don't ask me why!
Currently landowner can trap on the dam, but that privilege can not be transferred to agent acting on behalf of the owner. I have to stay 15 ft away. Screwy regulation and is being changed, but not finalized yet, as far as I understand it.

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I can see it in regards to fur trapping as a method of controlling the harvest(taking away some of the most sure fire sets).But when the target is removing all the beaver in a nuisance situation in the most efficient way possible,that rule doesn't make sense in that situation.
Good that it is being changed.

Re: beaver job [Re: Traps R Us] #6259194
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Originally Posted By: Uwe
Limited by what's legal.


And what would THAT be?

What traps can you use?

Snares OK?



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Re: beaver job [Re: Traps R Us] #6259243
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no snares or cable restraints.
I think body grips more than half submerged, and possibly still footholds as drowning sets. Regs are a bit ambiguous there.

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One trap I would recommend you have is a Koro beaver trap.

Re: beaver job [Re: Traps R Us] #6259619
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Snare are legal and a good option if you can do a 24 hr check. I would set the runs between the dam and the house.
I just finished a job where I couldn't get permission to trap the main pond. Took
8 beaver in between the main dam and a culvert they were blocking down stream from it.
5 of 8 were caught in snares.



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I studied the regulations. As I understand it, footholds, conies, and snares are legal to use. Conies and snares need to be at least 1/2 submerged. I cannot set closer than 15 ft of the dam.
I will try to locate the hut later today.

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That is correct and also no lure. Also required to have permission in writing from the land owner with a time period specified.
I think aphis got involved in writing the regs just to make it difficult.



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agreed, the 1/2 submerged rule is no hindrance.

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The half submerged rule is fine until some Conservation Officer decides you are at fault when the water drops. Most have commonsense and apply the 24hr rule- meaning if when you checked the set it was ok, then 24 hours later it was too high, as long as you correct it then you are OK. Had one that was a stickler- called me at 6pm to say the trap was about half an inch too far out of water, based on the jaw rivets. I explained the level was falling, more than I expected, but he wanted it fixed that night. I put a 280 in place of a 330 and all was good.

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in this case, the dam regulates the water level, so pretty consistent!

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Originally Posted By: Uwe
I will try to locate the hut later today.


I wouldn't waste my time.
I often did jobs and never knew where the lodge was, should not set there anyway, good way to get them to hide out in the lodge for long time.
If that log in the 3rd pic is near their travel, it is perfect to hang at least 2 snares on. Just like in Pauls videos, SURELY you have some.

Hope this helps a bit


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Re: beaver job [Re: Traps R Us] #6260873
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If there was a faster, easier, more effective, safer and more versatile method of beaver trapping that would offer better results than using swim through cage traps I would be doing it. After 50 years of beaver which includes using cages, conibears, magnums, 660's, snares, footholds, shooting, Hancock and Bailey the cages are still the go to trap after almost 8 years and nearly 1,000 beaver taken. Nope, they are not 100% as nothing is. I still use all of the other devices as required. Had the Hancock out this past week and used modified conibears on a winter colony due to all the junk in the water, feed pile and chewed wood. For ease, speed and results a shot of castor placed where you choose to set, with a cage or two out front in a foot or more of water is hard to beat. Put 3 cages side by side last year with castor beyond the traps. Had 3 in row the first night, 2 more and a turtle the next. Got one on the other side. Done in two nights, which is common. Runs are fine, just not always readily available, so I won't waste time looking for them because castor is so effective. I did have one spot this spring that was nothing but small runs close by so I used them all to 12 in a few trips. Whatever the situation dictates. When asked "how do you pick a castor location" the answer is simple. I get a tape measure and find the shortest distance from the bumper to the pond. The 60 pounders are heavier than they used to be.

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If there was a faster, easier, more effective, safer and more versatile method of beaver trapping that would offer better results than using swim through cage traps I would be doing it.


That is quite a statement, if you are a long liner and a pick up.

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