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#6258633 - 06/12/18 03:12 PM beaver job
Uwe Offline
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beaver dam in small creek causing flooding and concerns for neighboring industrial park, went today and inspected the dam, no damage to trees in sight, can't see any beaver hut in good size marsh land, all probably a couple of feet deep. Land Owner wants beaver removed and water level lowered as neighbor is getting very nervous.
How would you go about it ?




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#6258651 - 06/12/18 04:01 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Maybe you might describe what tools you have got to work with. What are your limitations?

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#6258667 - 06/12/18 04:41 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Carefully. Iíd inspect the job to get an estimate on the population first, and then Iíd try my best to avoid going around the den and primary dam until after Iíve knocked back their numbers by picking them up from the edges of their core area
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#6258688 - 06/12/18 05:27 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Kirk De, Owner says whatever it takes. Limited by what's legal.
Thanks Aix sponsa, will try to get a handle on the population numbers. I am stomped by not seeing any sign yet, so they might be a ways away actually. Usually beaver activity has not been that hard to spot.
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#6258783 - 06/12/18 08:26 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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That looks like an easy one.I would make a break in the dam about a foot deep and a foot wide as a draw,then I would set 6 sets lured with Bob Wilson's on the dam near the break,on each side,with the closest being about 10 feet from the break,and the rest 10 feet apart along the dam.Make sure no water is running over the dam where you make the lured sets.
After catching a few with the lured sets I would set the dam break itself with multiple submerged 330's out in front to take the stragglers.
After that I would rip the dam and return the water to natural flow,then check the house entrances for tracks in the mud to make sure all the beaver were eliminated.


Edited by Boco (06/12/18 08:29 PM)

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#6259037 - 06/13/18 08:13 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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not sure setting the dam is legal for agents in WI, I think it's not, but have to check.
would you still use a castor based lure or more a curiosity food lure?
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#6259110 - 06/13/18 10:06 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Bob Wilsons for me works all summer.
If you cant set the dam,look for the house and set the shoreline both sides between the dam and house.
If you want to get rid of a nuisance problem,why wouldn't you be allowed to set the dam?

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#6259127 - 06/13/18 10:47 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Boco]
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Wisconsin Regs, don't ask me why!
Currently landowner can trap on the dam, but that privilege can not be transferred to agent acting on behalf of the owner. I have to stay 15 ft away. Screwy regulation and is being changed, but not finalized yet, as far as I understand it.
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#6259132 - 06/13/18 10:57 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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I can see it in regards to fur trapping as a method of controlling the harvest(taking away some of the most sure fire sets).But when the target is removing all the beaver in a nuisance situation in the most efficient way possible,that rule doesn't make sense in that situation.
Good that it is being changed.

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#6259194 - 06/13/18 12:29 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Originally Posted By: Uwe
Limited by what's legal.


And what would THAT be?

What traps can you use?

Snares OK?

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#6259243 - 06/13/18 01:43 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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no snares or cable restraints.
I think body grips more than half submerged, and possibly still footholds as drowning sets. Regs are a bit ambiguous there.
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#6259251 - 06/13/18 02:10 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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One trap I would recommend you have is a Koro beaver trap.

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#6259365 - 06/13/18 07:29 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Originally Posted By: Uwe
no snares or cable restraints.
I think body grips more than half submerged, and possibly still footholds as drowning sets. Regs are a bit ambiguous there.


What Iím about to say is only to be constructive:


IMO The very first thing you should do is find out what is and what isnít legal. You are absolutely handicapping yourself by not knowing the regs and what tools you may use.


Itíd be like a mechanic only using box end wrenches, because he doesnít know whether or not ratchet wrenches are legal.

I know that snares are a legal method of taking beaver in Wisconsin, at least under certain circumstances like during trapping season. Imo, snares are an indispensable tool for catching beaver, and I wouldnít want to have to catch nuisance beaver without them. There isnít a more versatile tool than a snare. I make all kinds of sets with them that I canít make using bodygrips or foot traps. With that said, I wouldnít want to trap nuisance beaver without being able to use footholds or bodygrips either. Theyíre all toolsóóit pays to not only know which ones you can use but to also be comfortable using them when theyíre needed.

The only class of beaver trap that I havenít used are live traps (loosely meaning cage traps). Perhaps I should take my own advice and learn how to use them, just in case, but I havenít, yet, because I have always been able to rely on live snares in those types of situations. If the day ever comes that I need a live trap, Iíll immediately buy some while wishing I hadnít waited until I needed them to buy someóó-I just donít know if Iíll personally ever need them. I havenít seen a situation that a live trap is the only way I could catch them, although there may very well be situations that require them. I do not relocate any nuisance beaver. None. There would have to be a very good reason for me to consider it.


I recommend getting to know those regs....



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#6259619 - 06/14/18 06:08 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Snare are legal and a good option if you can do a 24 hr check. I would set the runs between the dam and the house.
I just finished a job where I couldn't get permission to trap the main pond. Took
8 beaver in between the main dam and a culvert they were blocking down stream from it.
5 of 8 were caught in snares.
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#6259964 - 06/14/18 04:15 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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I studied the regulations. As I understand it, footholds, conies, and snares are legal to use. Conies and snares need to be at least 1/2 submerged. I cannot set closer than 15 ft of the dam.
I will try to locate the hut later today.
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#6259968 - 06/14/18 04:21 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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That is correct and also no lure. Also required to have permission in writing from the land owner with a time period specified.
I think aphis got involved in writing the regs just to make it difficult.
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#6260019 - 06/14/18 06:04 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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To be clear, I was not saying live traps donít have their placeóóquite the contrary. Iíd really appreciate hearing reasons or situations that they work better than live snares if Iím not required to by law and Iím not relocating beavers. If there are situations that a live trap simply works better than an unregulated snare, Iím sure Iíll be shopping for some advanced traps from Kirk.


Iíve already been convinced those powered advanced traps are the ones Iíd want. Iím sure Iíll be buying some for other animals, but my comments have been about beaver trapping only. I know they have their place for other critters...




Originally Posted By: Uwe
I studied the regulations. As I understand it, footholds, conies, and snares are legal to use. Conies and snares need to be at least 1/2 submerged. I cannot set closer than 15 ft of the dam.
I will try to locate the hut later today.



I donít have the ď1/2 submergedĒ regulations here, and Iíve still never felt like I would be at a disadvantage if I did. Almost every snare I set is 1/2 submerged. The rest are fully submerged. I donít remember the last time I set a beaver snare that wasnít. Same for bodygrips.
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#6260338 - 06/15/18 08:16 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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agreed, the 1/2 submerged rule is no hindrance.
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#6260367 - 06/15/18 09:40 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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The half submerged rule is fine until some Conservation Officer decides you are at fault when the water drops. Most have commonsense and apply the 24hr rule- meaning if when you checked the set it was ok, then 24 hours later it was too high, as long as you correct it then you are OK. Had one that was a stickler- called me at 6pm to say the trap was about half an inch too far out of water, based on the jaw rivets. I explained the level was falling, more than I expected, but he wanted it fixed that night. I put a 280 in place of a 330 and all was good.

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#6260374 - 06/15/18 09:54 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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in this case, the dam regulates the water level, so pretty consistent!
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#6260581 - 06/15/18 05:25 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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I have to say after talking to my buddy this afternoon, heís convinced me that live traps have their place beaver trapping. My eyes have been opened, I stand corrected, or however else my realization that cage traps have their place beaver trapping needs to be said.

He showed me some pictures of using them in culverts with debris piled on them, and thatís all it took for me to realize it. I like the way that set looks too.

THANKS DON
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#6260667 - 06/15/18 08:32 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Originally Posted By: Uwe
I will try to locate the hut later today.


I wouldn't waste my time.
I often did jobs and never knew where the lodge was, should not set there anyway, good way to get them to hide out in the lodge for long time.
If that log in the 3rd pic is near their travel, it is perfect to hang at least 2 snares on. Just like in Pauls videos, SURELY you have some.

Hope this helps a bit
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#6260873 - 06/16/18 07:01 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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If there was a faster, easier, more effective, safer and more versatile method of beaver trapping that would offer better results than using swim through cage traps I would be doing it. After 50 years of beaver which includes using cages, conibears, magnums, 660's, snares, footholds, shooting, Hancock and Bailey the cages are still the go to trap after almost 8 years and nearly 1,000 beaver taken. Nope, they are not 100% as nothing is. I still use all of the other devices as required. Had the Hancock out this past week and used modified conibears on a winter colony due to all the junk in the water, feed pile and chewed wood. For ease, speed and results a shot of castor placed where you choose to set, with a cage or two out front in a foot or more of water is hard to beat. Put 3 cages side by side last year with castor beyond the traps. Had 3 in row the first night, 2 more and a turtle the next. Got one on the other side. Done in two nights, which is common. Runs are fine, just not always readily available, so I won't waste time looking for them because castor is so effective. I did have one spot this spring that was nothing but small runs close by so I used them all to 12 in a few trips. Whatever the situation dictates. When asked "how do you pick a castor location" the answer is simple. I get a tape measure and find the shortest distance from the bumper to the pond. The 60 pounders are heavier than they used to be.

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#6260978 - 06/16/18 10:40 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Jim Comstock]
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Quote:
If there was a faster, easier, more effective, safer and more versatile method of beaver trapping that would offer better results than using swim through cage traps I would be doing it.


That is quite a statement, if you are a long liner and a pick up.

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#6261631 - 06/17/18 12:07 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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The first thing I do before setting up any new nuisance beaver job is thoroughly scout the pond\ponds in order to set and remove all the beavers in the most efficient manner possible.Locating the house/bank dens and territorial castor mounds is key.
For example you could set up a pond,but if there is a larger pond upstream where the beavers are actually living,your traps at the lower pond may not see action for quite a while.This is especially true in summer.Even after a rain when beaver get more active,some beaver in the colony may not visit the lower impoundments for quite a while.
By scouting the entire area you will be able to identify the areas of frequent use,like crossovers,channels etc.It will also allow you to assess the probable size of the colony,how old it is and how many beaver you can expect to be there.By identifying large territorial castor mounds it will indicate you are dealing with more than one colony,and you can expect those adjacent beaver to move in after you remove the one colony,if you don't eliminate them too.Google earth can be an asset also.Another consideration is to know what lies downstream especially if you are in charge of lowering the water to natural flow after beaver removal.This can dictate if you can dump all the water in a couple of visits,or if you have to let the water down gradually over a longer time period.
This is not necessary when running and gunning for fur in season,unless you want to remove all the beaver.


Edited by Boco (06/17/18 12:16 PM)

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#6262178 - 06/18/18 12:55 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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quick update.
this is roughly 10 acres of swamp, water levels get beyond 4 ft quickly, so no way to wade around in it. perimeter is maybe 1/3 accessible, rest is out of my reach due to business park and subdivisions that boarder up against it. I don't see how I can scout it for runs, slides, mounts, huts etc.
I tried scouting with a short kayak, but that was so so, there is one main channel, the rest is smaller runs where maneuvering a kayak quickly becomes close to impossible. I am pushing my way through cattails there.
footholds on slide wires have not resulted in anything yet. I noticed a clear run approx 1 ft wide at one side, turns out that's turtle territory, with a turtle or two every morning stuck in my 330's. Anybody want turtles??
I managed to set 2 conibears at somewhat of pinch points in main channel, after first night I had a muskrat this morning.
Suffice to say that so far I am getting my butt kicked. Luckily the 90 degree weather is about to let off a little here.
I did poke a small hole in the dam to lower water levels and to get beavers moving, they have been back once to patch the dam. there's a raccoon visiting the dam every night. (timestamp is off).





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#6262229 - 06/18/18 03:15 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Being allowed to beaver trap, but not being able to use lure doesnít make sense. Are you allowed to use bait?

How many dams are there, and how deep is the water below the lowest dam?


Find where theyíre crossing the dam and set it up, or, If youíre lucky, theyíre leaving the water and going around the dam. Thatís a dependable set for a foothold a lot of times.

Usually the first trap I set is below the lowest dam at a good pinch where theyíre ducking a limb or going around a log.



Can also use a 1/2Ēx5 ft rebar Kill pole with your support wire fastened at the height that hangs a snare half submerged where theyíll swim through it to climb out. Killer set with castor, and still very good set blind as long as theyíre already passing there of course. Itís also very helpful when dealing with turtles as it keeps your snare off of the bottom like a typical ďcastor setĒ.







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#6262240 - 06/18/18 03:29 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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The lure and bait appear both to be not allowed, I find the regulations not very clear as it muddles all kinds of things in the same sentence, which are actually allowed off season for nuisance trapping.
As far as I can tell, there is one dam.
They don't seem to be crossing the dam, I also can't set within 15 ft of the dam.
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#6262244 - 06/18/18 03:33 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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As I understand it they are in the process of changing the no bait/lure and dam trapping law.
I've had very good results with aixs kill pole set up catching them in deep runs swimming on the surface.


Edited by forester79 (06/18/18 03:39 PM)
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#6262255 - 06/18/18 03:50 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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yes, the dam trapping was in the spring hearings, the bait was also, but for sight exposed bait in nuisance trapping.
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#6262257 - 06/18/18 03:54 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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what's the kill pole set? any illustrations?
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#6262363 - 06/18/18 07:18 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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This is a live catch set up. I haven't found a good way to drown with a snare yet. 2 snares can also been used to cover a wider run. This a 4 ft.





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#6262370 - 06/18/18 07:24 PM Re: beaver job [Re: forester79]
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Originally Posted By: forester79
This is a live catch set up. I haven't found a good way to drown with a snare yet. 2 snares can also been used to cover a wider run. This a 4 ft.









Weld a 8Ē cross piece about halfway down (as deep as you can while still clearing the substrate). Give them enough cable to reach it plus a little slack. Theyíll do the rest. Iíve had DOA beavers in 2 feet or less. When set as described, I donít remember the last time I had one alive. Maybe once the forum updates I can post photos again from my phone. If you still need photos to understand, I can go through the computer photo posting process tomorrow or Wednesday
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#6262444 - 06/18/18 08:56 PM Re: beaver job [Re: forester79]
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Originally Posted By: forester79
This is a live catch set up.
. Not if you run them down a drowning rod. A short snare works best. But it takes deeper water than Aix set up.


Edited by traprjohn (06/18/18 08:59 PM)
Edit Reason: Add info
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#6262449 - 06/18/18 09:00 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Aix sponsa]
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got it, thanks!
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#6262811 - 06/19/18 10:36 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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All of my Kill Poles are setup with 12" of 1/8" 7x19 cable attached to my KP using a fixed loop. Most of them have an 8/0 inline mid-swivel, but some do not. It certainly isn't required. On the terminal end, I pass the cable through the bottom of a trap swivel and then crimp an end stop. I then attach my snare with a J-hook. I'm pretty sure that everytime I have ever seen someone use a KP, their snare is attached by passing the snare's fixed loop through the KP's nut or washer, or in Foresters case, the swivel is on the KP itself. I have used the fixed loop passed through the washer and hooked onto the top of the KP (the second and third picture actually shows it done that way), but I simply prefer using a J-hook. The KP pictured does not have a handle welded on it, but every KP I build now does in fact have a handle welded on the backside of the rebar from where the nut or washer is welded.




Connected with the adult female on this one. She was leaving the water here to go plug a pipe on the other side.



This is an example of how I make a lured KP set.





This is what I like to see! Nuisance beaver wrapped up tight, DOA.

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#6262838 - 06/19/18 11:25 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Thanks Aix, this is very educational! Guess I need to pick up welding now too! smile
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#6262977 - 06/19/18 02:20 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Welding is an incredibly useful skill, but you can get by without welding if you need to. You can use a submerged tangle stick or even rebar. I don't recommend it, unless you're in a bind, but it can be done. You can either use a tie wire to wrap/secure the crosspiece, or instead of using a crosspiece for entanglement, you can add a drowner lock like a death diamond and then hammer on an annealed nut at the top and bottom. I've used a few wraps of wire and a twist in place of an annealed nut whenever I was in the field and needed a quick fix.




Also, having a nut about a foot from the bottom helps out a bunch. Instead of having to carry dedicated deep water stakes for my drowners, I hammer a 3/4" annealed nut on mine. This keeps my adjustable drowner's adjustable loop from riding up the KP when I drive it into the mud. I see no reason to carry any additional gear that I wouldn't have to haul if I were to just combine the two. I've used rebar drowner rods, drowner cables, and fiberglass drowner rods. I've used weights for my cables, and I've used stakes. From here on out, I don't think I'll be using anything but adjustable cables that are staked on the deep end, unless of course I am dealing with steep drop offs. Those situations are where rods with two top stakes shine, so I'll use them, but I will never, and I mean NEVER use a drowner rod that doesn't have 2 stakes on the top again!

If I decide to make a typical foothold or snare on a drowner, I already have my deep stake. If I decide to make a KP set, I already have my KP. If I want to make both sets, the only other thing I need is a way to anchor the top end (stake, root, wolf fang, whatever). Really works well for me.


Edited by Aix sponsa (06/19/18 03:15 PM)
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#6263092 - 06/19/18 05:30 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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I think Aixís torpedo set would be perfect for your situation, as long as you could use the castor. It self adjusts to water levels so you could break the dam to both lower the water and get the beaver heading that way. Not sure if he sets it up for drowning , but it sure seems to fit this setup

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#6263183 - 06/19/18 07:40 PM Re: beaver job [Re: thskeer]
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Originally Posted By: thskeer
I think Aixís torpedo set would be perfect for your situation, as long as you could use the castor. It self adjusts to water levels so you could break the dam to both lower the water and get the beaver heading that way. Not sure if he sets it up for drowning , but it sure seems to fit this setup




Iíve wondered just how effective it is without lure, and it would be a good test of ďis the pvc enough of a visual attraction on its own.Ē
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#6264251 - 06/21/18 09:00 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Aix's torpedo set?
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#6264657 - 06/21/18 09:40 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6175008/Re:_Beaver_Torpedo_Rolling_Ove


Pictures and descriptions here.


Remember that Iím just sharing an idea. It doesnít have to be exactly like mineó-it just needs to be able to be easy to carry, float upright, and support a snare. Someone PMd me about using a piece of round wooden post. I forgot who that was, but I believe itís a great idea. Fencing staples to hold a length of rebar underneath, sharpen the ends to handle current, and there ya go. Thatís how Iíd build them anyway
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#6270441 - 07/01/18 12:06 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Uwe, you get those rodents under control yet?


Catching them when itís hot is much different ballgame than getting them when itís cold, but you got that.....just let us know how itís going
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#6271048 - 07/02/18 09:36 AM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Aix, thanks for checking. Long story short, no, I have not caught them.
I caught a good share of turtles and a muskrat. With my trail cameras, I was observing beaver coming in to fix the small hole I tore in the dam, but they managed to avoid my traps. We had a lot of rain during that period, the water level dropped very little, and the beaver showed up roughly once a week to check on the dam and do repair work. Really got some amazing pictures of the beavers, raccoons, all sorts of birds, etc! One morning I got there and somebody had moved in with heavy equipment to take the dam down, dropped water levels a good foot. My client had no clue this was coming, neither did the neighboring business. As you can imagine, all my traps were now out of the water, and I decided to take them down and find out what's going on. I still don't who did it, but I suspect the construction crew at a new subdivision going in at the top of the swamp.
I agreed with the client to pull back for now. He does not want to deal with it at the moment, not upset with me, he called me and asked for his invoice, thanked me for my for my efforts and for responding very quickly. Even if not catching the beavers. I gained permission to trap there in winter and we'll see what else happens. I suspect the dam is fixed by now and the relief was very short term. Right now, licking my wounds a bit, learned a lot and looking forward to the next adventure.
If I get around to it, I'll post some pictures of all the wildlife on the dam.
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#6271167 - 07/02/18 12:27 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Uwe, you'll get them! Might be good to get the cameras back out too.

The dam getting messed with was my thought in suggesting the Torpedo. Worst case you have a snare sitting in the mud. I'd hate to have 330's or #14's high and dry!!!!! Also, steal a torpedo and I'm out about 5 bucks tops= Steal a 330 and it is about 20.

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#6271178 - 07/02/18 12:40 PM Re: beaver job [Re: Uwe]
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Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: Uwe
Aix, thanks for checking. Long story short, no, I have not caught them.
I caught a good share of turtles and a muskrat. With my trail cameras, I was observing beaver coming in to fix the small hole I tore in the dam, but they managed to avoid my traps. We had a lot of rain during that period, the water level dropped very little, and the beaver showed up roughly once a week to check on the dam and do repair work. Really got some amazing pictures of the beavers, raccoons, all sorts of birds, etc! One morning I got there and somebody had moved in with heavy equipment to take the dam down, dropped water levels a good foot. My client had no clue this was coming, neither did the neighboring business. As you can imagine, all my traps were now out of the water, and I decided to take them down and find out what's going on. I still don't who did it, but I suspect the construction crew at a new subdivision going in at the top of the swamp.
I agreed with the client to pull back for now. He does not want to deal with it at the moment, not upset with me, he called me and asked for his invoice, thanked me for my for my efforts and for responding very quickly. Even if not catching the beavers. I gained permission to trap there in winter and we'll see what else happens. I suspect the dam is fixed by now and the relief was very short term. Right now, licking my wounds a bit, learned a lot and looking forward to the next adventure.
If I get around to it, I'll post some pictures of all the wildlife on the dam.



No lure is a tough reg to have to deal with. Hopefully they straighten that up for you soon. If you're getting them on trail camera video, I would think you could work on studying their approaches and get them hooked up. Hopefully it'll all work out for ya. Thanks for the update and good luck



Originally Posted By: thskeer
Uwe, you'll get them! Might be good to get the cameras back out too.

The dam getting messed with was my thought in suggesting the Torpedo. Worst case you have a snare sitting in the mud. I'd hate to have 330's or #14's high and dry!!!!! Also, steal a torpedo and I'm out about 5 bucks tops= Steal a 330 and it is about 20.

Tom



Right on. That torp will ride the water fluctuations like a boss. I tell ya what, I openly shared the idea, and I encourage(d) others to bounce their ideas off of me as well. Since first mentioning the Torp, no fewer than 3 people have run some great ideas by me in regards to beaver-catching-devices. Since those were their ideas, I'll let them be the ones that share them whenever they're ready. They know who they are, and they'll probably read this post.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Fluctuating water levels are the Achilles Heel of many beaver trappers. Settle on an easy workaround, and you're in business.
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