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#6258692 - 06/12/18 05:31 PM New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold?
nyhuntfish Offline
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Theory: IF there are indeed 7,000 tigers in the US and say... (guessing here:) 3/4 of them aren't in a zoo....

And say: If they got loose and bred, there would be more.

So Say: If this happened (Example: in a bad economy where it were expensive to keep the tiger and people just dumped them like stupid people DO as we know already with other animals like house cats and snakes)...

Would the Trapper have a new fur bearer to trap?

And if so...What trap we use today (not buying anything new) could reliably hold a tiger?

http://www.trappersreport.com/story/Aside_7000-Tigers-in-the-US

If the answer is "only snares" then my game doesn't work. But it's worth asking. Yes first I would shoot then I would snare but what IF I wanted to use a foothold/conibear?

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#6258694 - 06/12/18 05:36 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
pcr2 Offline
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660 and a biiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggg bucket.
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#6258698 - 06/12/18 05:39 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
nyhuntfish Offline
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Ha! 660 is a trap. I did not know that. That's amazing.
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#6258721 - 06/12/18 06:21 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
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Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
If you wanted to foothold a tiger You would use a belisle footsnare.

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#6258723 - 06/12/18 06:25 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Wolfdog91 Offline
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Loc: Amite county Mississippi
Can I modify?
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#6258725 - 06/12/18 06:31 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
ETexTrapper Offline
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Registered: 07/12/13
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Loc: Warren, (Southeast) Texas
I'd try a 4 coiled heavily modified TS85 with teeth.
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#6258726 - 06/12/18 06:32 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
ShaneT Offline
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Loc: Louisiana
Duke 1.5
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#6258731 - 06/12/18 06:35 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: ShaneT]
Catch22 Offline
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Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: ShaneT
Duke 1.5

grin
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#6258741 - 06/12/18 07:04 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
David Morse Offline
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Registered: 04/06/17
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Loc: Upstate NY
Just poke a thorn in its foot and you won't need a trap.
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#6258746 - 06/12/18 07:11 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: David Morse]
teepee2 Offline
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Registered: 07/28/17
Posts: 356
Loc: IA
It must be summer.

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#6258765 - 06/12/18 07:48 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Mike in A-town Offline
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Registered: 09/29/13
Posts: 6703
Loc: Northeast Oklahoma
People don't realize how big tigers can get. 1000 lbs is not unheard of for Siberian tigers...

If we're talking strictly footholds then I would start with nothing less than a bear trap.

Mike
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#6258777 - 06/12/18 08:08 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
trapre Offline
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#6258779 - 06/12/18 08:18 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: Boco]
white17 Offline

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Originally Posted By: Boco
If you wanted to foothold a tiger You would use a belisle footsnare.


That would certainly be my first choice. Probably my only choice. But, as far as I know there is only one forum member who has in fact, trapped Siberian tigers. Maybe we will get some valid input from him.
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#6258813 - 06/12/18 09:15 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Furvor Offline
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Loc: Idaho Falls, ID
The are chain locks on the market. Maybe a chain Snare? Should be fun holding it in set position. Kinda like snipe hunting? Hold that tiger.
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#6258816 - 06/12/18 09:19 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Ryan McLeod Offline
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You cut an x on top of a 45 gallon drum. Bend them tabs inward. Use some dobbins Siberian tiger lure and a whole beaver to get him to stick his head in there and then 1000 pounds or more of angry cat will be good as dead. If that’s too much for you then maybe you shouldn’t be trapping tigers.
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#6258817 - 06/12/18 09:21 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Ryan McLeod Offline
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Loc: NWT
Second choice would an Alaska #15 which I believe JR is designing right now.
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#6258937 - 06/13/18 05:48 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
OhioBoy Offline
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Pass. I'm out.



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#6258942 - 06/13/18 05:59 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
pcr2 Offline
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eat em backs,yeah baby i'll climb on board.lot worse ways to go out than tiger poop.
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#6258944 - 06/13/18 06:00 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
pcr2 Offline
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how big would ya dig the dirthole though??
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#6258970 - 06/13/18 06:54 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: white17]
tjm Offline
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Loc: SWMo.
Originally Posted By: white17
But, as far as I know there is only one forum member who has in fact, trapped Siberian tigers. Maybe we will get some valid input from him.
Exactly what I was thinking.

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#6258977 - 06/13/18 06:59 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: white17]
pcr2 Offline
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Originally Posted By: white17
Originally Posted By: Boco
If you wanted to foothold a tiger You would use a belisle footsnare.


That would certainly be my first choice. Probably my only choice. But, as far as I know there is only one forum member who has in fact, trapped Siberian tigers. Maybe we will get some valid input from him.

please tell me it's not Boco. laugh
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#6258988 - 06/13/18 07:10 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Camohoyt340 Offline
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Registered: 01/12/13
Posts: 447
Loc: New York
Everybody knows that you have to catch a tiger by the toe.

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#6258991 - 06/13/18 07:11 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Camohoyt340 Offline
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Posts: 447
Loc: New York
But you have to stay there and wait because if he hollers you have to immediately let him go.

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#6258998 - 06/13/18 07:18 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
trapre Offline
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What defines "hollering"? LOL, good one.^^^
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#6259007 - 06/13/18 07:29 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: OhioBoy]
ShaneT Offline
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Originally Posted By: OhioBoy
Pass. I'm out.





Man, that thing is built like a brick outhouse.
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#6259008 - 06/13/18 07:31 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
trapre Offline
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It is but I think it's pretty cool. Unless it's running 50MPH and your running 7MPH. Hope you have a chubby friend with!
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#6259024 - 06/13/18 07:56 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
pcr2 Offline
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you got it trapre,the key to trapping tigers is to do it with someone way slower than you are. grin
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#6259043 - 06/13/18 08:26 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
the Blak Spot Offline
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Registered: 12/23/10
Posts: 1775
Loc: central arkansas
Only trap i currently use that might work is a 4.5 sleepy creek. Probably hold if i ran the beast into the water on a drowning cable. That being said, i would have to use a front end loader to drop at least 500 lbs of weight into the water to tie the cable to. (Unless i found a car under water)
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#6259102 - 06/13/18 09:47 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Ditchdiver Offline
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Registered: 07/15/16
Posts: 1685
Loc: Michigan
NO BS wolf trap maybe? Preferably with teeth and me a LONG ways away!
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#6259103 - 06/13/18 09:49 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: Ditchdiver]
trapre Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ditchdiver
NO BS wolf trap maybe? Preferably with teeth and me a LONG ways away!
With a chubby friend?
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#6259105 - 06/13/18 09:53 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 15263
Loc: nm
Use a cardboard box grin and a foot snare baited with pig or roadkill deer or elk would be the go to set. Or use 1/2" cable.

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#6259156 - 06/13/18 11:39 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Canvasback2 Offline
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Registered: 07/15/16
Posts: 1271
Loc: NY
They already made it to Alaska in 2016 !

Proof !






Edited by Canvasback2 (06/13/18 11:39 AM)

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#6259179 - 06/13/18 12:03 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Gulo Offline
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Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 464
Loc: Idaho, Lemhi County
All I can say is that they are indeed fun to trap. This image is not photo-shopped and was taken in 1993 when I was in Far Eastern Russia. I currently do not have any foothold traps that I'd trust to hold one. The cat in the photo is a young male.


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#6259202 - 06/13/18 12:42 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Ryan McLeod Offline
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Registered: 02/09/14
Posts: 1488
Loc: NWT
Cool Gulo!!
What an adventure that mustve been!
Looks like good marten country too.
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#6259204 - 06/13/18 12:46 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Aaron Proffitt Offline
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Registered: 10/14/07
Posts: 6313
Loc: OK
Gulo, can't post that without a story. Just not Christian.
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#6259209 - 06/13/18 12:58 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Pasadena Offline
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Posts: 2320
Loc: Ohio, 49yrs old
I only own one trap that I would use. Duke #16. I think it would hold one very well too.
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#6259214 - 06/13/18 01:13 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: Gulo]
humptulips Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
Posts: 833
Loc: Washington State
Originally Posted By: Gulo
All I can say is that they are indeed fun to trap. This image is not photo-shopped and was taken in 1993 when I was in Far Eastern Russia. I currently do not have any foothold traps that I'd trust to hold one. The cat in the photo is a young male.



Looks to be foot snared so that answers the question of what trap.

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#6259222 - 06/13/18 01:24 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
pcr2 Offline
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Registered: 05/17/10
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Loc: potter co. p.a.
neat,thanx for chimin in Gulo
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#6259241 - 06/13/18 01:41 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: Gulo]
trapr Offline
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Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 1415
Loc: idaho falls idaho
Originally Posted By: Gulo
All I can say is that they are indeed fun to trap. This image is not photo-shopped and was taken in 1993 when I was in Far Eastern Russia. I currently do not have any foothold traps that I'd trust to hold one. The cat in the photo is a young male.


I'm thinking the cat isn't the only youngster in the photo,tell us the story please!

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#6259250 - 06/13/18 02:10 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Gulo Offline
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Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 464
Loc: Idaho, Lemhi County
The (short) story behind the photo....

In early 1993 I took some time off from my job in Alaska to trap tigers for a study of said critters in Far Eastern Russia. Trapped a couple (indeed, Humptulips, with foot snares), then migrated to a different area (near the North Korean border in Russia) and began a study on Far Eastern leopards. Caught some leopards, Himalayan bears, brown bears, and miscellaneous other critters. Was over there for a year right after Glasnost and Perestroika, one of very few westerners in that part of Russia at the time. Stayed a year, then back to Alaska. Returned a couple of times after that to hunt (Russian boar, Roe deer, Sika deer) with a couple of the Russians I worked with that had become fast friends. Was a wonderful year. On the other hand, was happy to get back to interior Alaska.

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#6259262 - 06/13/18 02:37 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
pcr2 Offline
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Registered: 05/17/10
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Loc: potter co. p.a.
i reek of jealousy right now. grin
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#6259264 - 06/13/18 02:39 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
adam m Offline
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 15263
Loc: nm
That's incredible Gulo. What an amazing experience that most can only dream of. Thanks for sharing

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#6259284 - 06/13/18 03:22 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Tom cat Offline
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Loc: Indianland sc
That’s awesome Gulo!!
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#6259300 - 06/13/18 03:57 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
white17 Offline

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Registered: 03/17/07
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Thanks for sharing that Jack. How about some info on your technique for tranquilizing those guys and the procedures after that point. I'm inclined to just make up some fantastic stuff but I know the truth is even more interesting.
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#6259301 - 06/13/18 03:58 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Aix sponsa Offline
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Registered: 02/23/14
Posts: 6953
Loc: Louisiana
Glad you posted Gulo



Would you feel comfortable saying what size snare cable would you trust for the big cats? I understand if you aren’t. Just curious is all....


I have no experience with it whatsoever, so I probably shouldn’t even say it, but just for fun I would think 1/8” with a 12/0 inline swivel right behind the loop would do it....





Thank you


Edited by Aix sponsa (06/13/18 07:49 PM)
Edit Reason: 1/8”
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#6259331 - 06/13/18 05:37 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Ditchdiver Offline
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Posts: 1685
Loc: Michigan
Some people have the coolest lives! I love this site!
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#6259410 - 06/13/18 08:36 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: Gulo]
ShaneT Offline
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Registered: 10/13/12
Posts: 4621
Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: Gulo
The (short) story behind the photo....

In early 1993 I took some time off from my job in Alaska to trap tigers for a study of said critters in Far Eastern Russia. Trapped a couple (indeed, Humptulips, with foot snares), then migrated to a different area (near the North Korean border in Russia) and began a study on Far Eastern leopards. Caught some leopards, Himalayan bears, brown bears, and miscellaneous other critters. Was over there for a year right after Glasnost and Perestroika, one of very few westerners in that part of Russia at the time. Stayed a year, then back to Alaska. Returned a couple of times after that to hunt (Russian boar, Roe deer, Sika deer) with a couple of the Russians I worked with that had become fast friends. Was a wonderful year. On the other hand, was happy to get back to interior Alaska.


Absolutely incredible experience. That is just awesome!
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#6259496 - 06/13/18 10:31 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: ShaneT]
v2k Offline
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Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 89
Loc: MN
Are there many people that trap in Russia? With as much land mass as they have you would think that they would be able to supply a lot of wild fur to the world.

When you were over there did you see any fur buyers or trapping supply dealers?

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#6259502 - 06/13/18 10:43 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
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I'm just glad it wasn't Beav that caught the tiger

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#6259514 - 06/13/18 11:15 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: v2k]
waggler Offline
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Originally Posted By: v2k
Are there many people that trap in Russia? With as much land mass as they have you would think that they would be able to supply a lot of wild fur to the world.

When you were over there did you see any fur buyers or trapping supply dealers?


I believe Russia produces around 300,000 sable/marten a year. The quality of their sables are quite broad, some of sections look just like interior Alaska marten, others such as those found in the Barguzin region are a lot different (incredibly beautiful). But then Russia is a huge place, its no wonder there are differences in the various sections.

Regarding tiger trapping; my Siberian friend says their gauge of a big tiger is when you take off you fur hat and place it over the tiger track, if the track is larger than the hat it's a big tiger. Sound like maybe a #6 Newhouse.
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#6259531 - 06/13/18 11:46 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Ryan McLeod Offline
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Posts: 1488
Loc: NWT
Watch happy people on Netflix? I know it’s on YouTube for sure. One guy was running over a thousand hand made deadfalls for Marten. Awesome documentary showing a year in their life. A tiger? Not many can say they’ve trapped a tiger. That’s awesome.
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#6259544 - 06/14/18 12:39 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: Aix sponsa]
white17 Offline

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Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 25242
Loc: McGrath, AK
Originally Posted By: Aix sponsa
Glad you posted Gulo



Would you feel comfortable saying what size snare cable would you trust for the big cats? I understand if you aren’t. Just curious is all....


I have no experience with it whatsoever, so I probably shouldn’t even say it, but just for fun I would think 1/8” with a 12/0 inline swivel right behind the loop would do it....





Thank you


My guess would be 5/16" minimum. Both for strength and minimal damage to the cat
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#6259545 - 06/14/18 12:43 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: waggler]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 25242
Loc: McGrath, AK
Originally Posted By: waggler
Originally Posted By: v2k
Are there many people that trap in Russia? With as much land mass as they have you would think that they would be able to supply a lot of wild fur to the world.

When you were over there did you see any fur buyers or trapping supply dealers?


I believe Russia produces around 300,000 sable/marten a year. The quality of their sables are quite broad, some of sections look just like interior Alaska marten, others such as those found in the Barguzin region are a lot different (incredibly beautiful). But then Russia is a huge place, its no wonder there are differences in the various sections.

Regarding tiger trapping; my Siberian friend says their gauge of a big tiger is when you take off you fur hat and place it over the tiger track, if the track is larger than the hat it's a big tiger. Sound like maybe a #6 Newhouse.


If I had to guess, and HAD to use a foothold, a #6 Newhouse would be my starting point
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#6259546 - 06/14/18 12:56 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 7566
Loc: evansville Indiana age72
I always heard, you had to catch a Tiger by the tail,pcr2. Next thing I might say is,It is absolutely fantastic to be on a trapping site with probably one of the only men in North America to have been fortunate enough to trap a Siberian Tiger. Not to say the least, the same Man getting to trap other Russian animals. Sir it is my Honor to be on this site with you and typing this note to you. Congratulations.

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#6259549 - 06/14/18 01:24 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
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Exactly Don !! It has been my privilege to know jack for over 30 years. He has the most inquisitive mind I have ever known. He has a world of experience. He has way more questions than answers. That's the way it should be IMO.
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#6259774 - 06/14/18 10:38 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
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Gulo, did Bart work with you on the leopard project also or did he stick to the tigers?
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#6260321 - 06/15/18 07:40 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
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White 17...

For tranquilizing, we used a dart gun to deliver the drugs when I first got to Russia. I modified this technique by going to a blow-gun delivery, and the big cats and bears didn't go ballistic when I switched over to the blow-gun. It was a lot easier on them, and thus on me. I still prefer the blow-gun, and use it exclusively on trapped wolves, lions, and bears even now.

Aix...

On the tigers, we used 1/2" cable. 1/8" would have been much too thin. Remember, these things were well over 600 lbs, and very strong.

v2k...

Where I was in Russia and at the time (1993/94), there were very few trappers. Most of the good fur and the trappers were farther north in Siberia. There were 4 different species of marten (Russian sable, yellow-throated marten, stone marten, and beech marten), Eurasian badgers, tree squirrels, raccoon-dogs, American mink, red fox, and, of course, big cats. By law at that time, all fur had to be sold to the government fur buyers, but, despite that, you did see raw and tanned furs for sale in the open markets in the bigger cities.

newhouse114...

Bart replaced me on the tiger work when I started the leopard project. When I returned to Alaska, Bart did go down south and did a short stint on the leopards, but pretty much stayed with the tiger project.


Jeesh, you guys. I just happened to be at the right place at the right time. It was an incredible experience, one I'd not care to trade for anything. On the other hand, there are any number of folks that are on this forum that could have done the same thing as well or better than me.

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#6260347 - 06/15/18 08:33 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
Aix sponsa Offline
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Thanks for the reply. Very interesting gig
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#6260439 - 06/15/18 12:43 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
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Jack, was the dart gun doing tissue damage or was it the audible that got them riled up ?

Right place at the right time ??? I don't think so. I seem to recall that YOU were requested specifically for the job.

And what about that POW wolf deal a couple years back ?? Seems that might have been a specific request also. A bit too modest there Jackson !
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#6260453 - 06/15/18 12:56 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
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Originally Posted By: nyhuntfish
Theory: IF there are indeed 7,000 tigers in the US and say... (guessing here:) 3/4 of them aren't in a zoo....

And say: If they got loose and bred, there would be more.

So Say: If this happened (Example: in a bad economy where it were expensive to keep the tiger and people just dumped them like stupid people DO as we know already with other animals like house cats and snakes)...

Would the Trapper have a new fur bearer to trap?

And if so...What trap we use today (not buying anything new) could reliably hold a tiger?

http://www.trappersreport.com/story/Aside_7000-Tigers-in-the-US

If the answer is "only snares" then my game doesn't work. But it's worth asking. Yes first I would shoot then I would snare but what IF I wanted to use a foothold/conibear?


I would be kind of partial to the Browning 1919. but if you don't have a crew to serve it the Rem .300 mag should suffice.
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#6260471 - 06/15/18 01:26 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: nyhuntfish]
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i do a lot of calling at night here,can you imagine sittin in the corner of a cornfield with that little red light sweeping back and forth waiting for one of them buggers to show up??not sure my ticker could take it.
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#6260523 - 06/15/18 03:20 PM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: newhouse114]
Aaron Proffitt Offline
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Originally Posted By: newhouse114
Gulo, did Bart work with you on the leopard project also or did he stick to the tigers?


Was wondering the same thing . Glad you asked .
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#6260922 - 06/16/18 08:33 AM Re: New Game: Which Trap we already use could hold? [Re: pcr2]
Aix sponsa Offline
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Originally Posted By: pcr2
i do a lot of calling at night here,can you imagine sittin in the corner of a cornfield with that little red light sweeping back and forth waiting for one of them buggers to show up??not sure my ticker could take it.



Don’t worry about tigers..... doubt you’ll see em until BOOM your head is slipping down the ole kitty’s gullet. That video where the tiger appears out of the grass and whacks that elephant driver in India comes to mind!
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