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Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: AJE] #6237068
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Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: AJE] #6252171
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Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: AJE] #6258319
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Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: Diggerman] #6258641
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Originally Posted By: Diggerman
Deer farms are responsible for this whole mess. Until they are held financially responsible this mess will continue to get worse. Until you stomp out the source, it does no good to treat the problem.


^^^Well said...


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Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: AJE] #6260772
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http://www.weau.com/content/news/Meeting-to-be-held-on-CWD-485706901.html
Be interesting to see what kind of ideas they come up with.

Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: AJE] #6263296
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I wonder if there's any game farms in Wi that don't have CWD.
http://www.weau.com/content/news/Officia...-485985041.html

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Originally Posted By: AJE
I wonder if there's any game farms in Wi that don't have CWD.
http://www.weau.com/content/news/Officia...-485985041.html


Yup.....right down the hwy 8 from me...

Well....at least there will be a baiting ban now...let's see if its enforces.

Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: AJE] #6263316
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So what is the fear? It was discovered in 1967, has existed for longer than that. Will stay in the soil for unlimited amount of time. It has never been transferred to humans. Someone earlier claimed the WDNR is not making money. Look at he growth of the department to deal with CWD.
The great scare and who benefits:
Car insurance companies
Timber companies
Legislatures with the kickbacks.

Such over reaction. Don't be so naive.

Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: AJE] #6263432
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I’m guessing the testing is a preliminary stab at future science: CWD in deer (-and cattle) might eventually be linked to prion diseases in humans. Like bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) and a possible connection to Creutzfeld-Jacob Disease in humans, CWD is felt by the scientific community to be connected. Warning the public to be aware, because of a perceived threat, is better than not telling them, and being accused of withholding evidence later on.

I’ve spent most of my career working in public health. It’s been interesting to see public reactions to “perceived” threats. Most of the vocal non-believers say the govt doesn’t know what it’s talking about. Until they’re affected years later, when they can’t do anything about it. Then they cry that the govt should have been more proactive with its warnings. This has been true with UV-A and UV-B radiation from tanning beds; lead-based paint removal; asbestos; radon; nitrates in groundwater; endocrine disrupters and bisphenol-A (a hardener in plastic water bottles); mold in grain; moldy walls in flooded basements; mosquito control; pre-chlorinating surface water before taking out organic materials in water supplies; eating under cooked food, drinking unpasteurized milk; not adequately washing fruits and vegetables before feeding them to our kids, etc.

The potential for a link is there. CWD in hooved animals might be linked to Creutzfeld-Jacob disease in humans. The government has done its job to warn you. But it’s up to you to heed the warning.

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Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: AJE] #6264233
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Teacher, I agree with the warnings to the public, possible connections to mad cow etc. It has gone way beyond that. I have read, studied, and discussed with biologists. The extermination of deer herds, reduction etc. is over reach. The political agenda is the issue, including the lobbying by the timber industry and insurance companies. It is not going away and no proof it has not always been here.

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I have read, studied, and discussed with biologists. The extermination of deer herds, reduction etc. is over reach. The political agenda is the issue, including the lobbying by the timber industry and insurance companies. It is not going away and no proof it has not always been here.


The Biologists and scientists I talked to said same. They said as far as mad cow it was never a problem because the meat and bone meal fed to animals here was cooked. In Canada and England it wasn,t.


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Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: AJE] #6264284
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I’m not sure cooking (the way we cook burgers) infected beef and bone meal is sufficient to get rid of prions. Too many people still like their beef, venison, lamb etc on the rare side. You can tell them till Christ comes again eating under cooked protein isn’t good for them and they’ll continue to do it. Example: the warnings on cigarette packages and the number of people who still smoke.

If the link is ever made, between chronic wasting disease and BSE or Cruetzfeld Jacob, it will be too late for many venison consumers to avoid brain damage. Regardless of the politics, and the over reach by killing more deer than necessary, the govt is providing you with an early warning. Its up to the individual to decide to listen, read or heed, or not.


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From what I was told, all of the infected mad cows had been fed uncooked meat and bone meal.

The United states had fed cooked meat and bone meal for a long time is why we were never linked.


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Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: AJE] #6264368
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I have never been one to overreact . Just eat the deer and poop it out. But, If someone said here eat this deer it has tested positive for CWD. I would think twice about it. So moral of my story. Don't test don't tell.

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Originally Posted By: trapperman222
Don't test don't tell.
You know, there's actually a lot of people thinking that way. Around here, testing is free & the state encourages people in my area to test, but most don't.

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I have never had one tested. Most likely never will.


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Our family has not tested and we have no plans of it. We harvested deer with tumors, masses, super thin, bad smelling, etc. Never ate any of them either.

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Re: CWD in Wisconsin deer: Update [Re: The Beav] #6279358
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
I have never had one tested. Most likely never will.



Because young people consume some of the venison I harvest annually, I have every deer I kill tested. Cut it up, freeze it, when test results come back negative we can all our venison.
Now with possible transport restrictions on the carcass it will be interesting to see how many more hunters will hang it up and seek out the couch in November.

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