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Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265437
06/23/18 07:34 AM
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I no smokers who pay 8.00 for a pack of smokes per day.

Good lure is a great investment.


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Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: beartooth trapr] #6265441
06/23/18 07:46 AM
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I hate to say it but I think a lot of good lures and baits would be considered underpriced if I was the owner of the company
The fur market for the most part is deplorable to say the least. I feel it is very difficult to show any profit for most trappers on the line today that do not use "trappers math".

What a lot of trappers do not think about when purchasing a lure is the hours of grinding, bottling, testing, tweaking, more testing, and on and on.
I have fooled around making some lures since the 1970's. Coming up with a consistent reliable lure is more work than most realize.

I would not discourage anyone from the enjoyment of making some lures to test out of their own, but I would suggest going slow. I have a fair amount of money tied up in quality ingredients such as muskrat musk, top quality fish oil, civet, caster, oil sacs (I can supply my own caster and oil sacs most of the time) and on and on. You can get a fair amount of money tied up just sitting on a shelf waiting to be put into formula and tested.

I too cringe when I place a lure or bait order so I am discerning. But then again I cringe when spending any money! LOL
It costs money to make good lures and baits so I am willing to purchase good stuff.

If I want to cut expenses I look at streamlining the operation. I am getting older so this is a bit tougher in some instances. How can I be smoother? How can I be faster? How can I cover more ground? How can I use less energy yet produce better results? How do I analyze accurately just what I should be doing or which fur should I be concentrating on? How much time and energy can I expend and keep up with other duties? All difficult questions of varying degrees.

No trapper wants to see supplies, lures etc. go up, but no one expects to see them go the other way either. Good stuff pays.

Mac



Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265442
06/23/18 07:46 AM
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i'd pay twenty an ounce and still feel i got the better end of the deal.somewhere somebody got the idea a trappers time is free.









Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265456
06/23/18 08:14 AM
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how do you get by with only one ounce of good lure?

if you don't think what your using is worth the price don't buy it


except for a few guys trapping western coyotes and cats your not going to have any profit even if the stuff was free.

you could just go to 100% blind set foot traps and snares


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265461
06/23/18 08:25 AM
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If lure and equipment prices were pinned to fur prices, everyone would be out of business.

Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mac] #6265470
06/23/18 08:47 AM
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Steel and stainless steel are up considerably. Everyone is gonna get sticker shock when they compare trap and supply prices to the year before! Nothing can be done, we live in a capitalist society, suppy and demand, but if folks don't make enough money.....why do it? That is the bottom line!


YOU CAN IGNORE REALITY, BUT YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES OF IGNORING REALITY.

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Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265471
06/23/18 08:52 AM
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Mic, I have 2 things in the works. And you just keep making that gland lure and we won't need to buy anything.

Evidently a lot of folks DO think that lure can be the magic bullet that'll catch em all.



Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265474
06/23/18 08:59 AM
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I have dabbled a little bit with making my own baits and lures, and I will GLADLY pay someone else to do it. I am better suited to do other things which make money to purchase quality products made by Americans.


I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money!
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Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265477
06/23/18 09:08 AM
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Too the trappers that complain. It's a tough fur market right now but if coon and fox were up in price like in the 80's lure price would not matter. You don't have to buy lure ,go without it or buy cheap junk and see for yourself how being cheap has set you back. I have been trapping for over 60 years and to this day I don't know any rich lure manufacture. Get in the game for trapping and stop complaining like the cry baby's on social media.

Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265478
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Quality doesn't cost, it pays.

I can appreciate the effort and dedication that goes into making a quality lure. There's a lot of pride, effort and cost in every bottle.

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Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: H. Fitzgerald] #6265479
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Originally Posted By: H. Fitzgerald
Too the trappers that complain. It's a tough fur market right now but if coon and fox were up in price like in the 80's lure price would not matter. You don't have to buy lure ,go without it or buy cheap junk and see for yourself how being cheap has set you back. I have been trapping for over 60 years and to this day I don't know any rich lure manufacture. Get in the game for trapping and stop complaining like the cry baby's on social media.

grin


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Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265482
06/23/18 09:19 AM
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If you have a favorite lure that works consistently year after year for you then you would pay more then they are asking now!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265504
06/23/18 09:49 AM
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water trapping i'm a 99 percent blind trapper,especially with the low coon prices.i like to play with mink and beaver glands and am more than willing to pay somebody that knows what they are doing to make my lure.can only conquer so many mountains in one lifetime.









Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265538
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I enjoy dabbling in lure and bait making and use it at quite a few of the sets for beaver but I KNOW it is nowhere as good as these guys that have years, thousands of dollars and knowledge plus multiple field testing all over the country. I always have the proven lure along as well. The concentration, consistency and multiple ingredients melded together I cannot get like they have. What I make is simple stuff. I will be buying lure in Escanaba.

Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265542
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H Fitzgerald, you don't know what Mic catches, clearly.

Anyone who's commented on fur prices, nafa, nta, lure cost, gas prices, etc is a crybaby? C'mon man.

People are more than welcome to buy as much of whatever they want with their own money. But it's not all that necessary in my humble opinion.

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Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265635
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It's a tax deductible, isn't it? Expendable supplies.

Keep some records and I expect you'll find lures are relatively cheap at the new and improved price. That said I use lures sparingly, I think some use it like it was bait instead of lure. Some sets don't even get lure.

The lures didn't get more expensive, the money got more worthless.

Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265648
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Like Law Dog said I would be willing to pay way more than current lure prices for my go to lures. The higher prices only hurt when we are trying new lures(and we all can’t resist doing that).

Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6265671
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Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: OKforester] #6265678
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Originally Posted By: OKforester
Like Law Dog said I would be willing to pay way more than current lure prices for my go to lures. The higher prices only hurt when we are trying new lures(and we all can’t resist doing that).
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I can.

Re: Lure and Trapping supply prices ! [Re: Mic NC] #6266149
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You are going to have to pay sales tax on anything you order as soon as the states can get their systems up and running and traps and everything else coming from over seas will have new tariffs so If I needed anything I would order it this week. You will be ahead of the game to order several years supply now.

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