You keep beating the " prosecute employers " drum.

What about all the non business people ( millions ) who hire illegals for odd jobs around the house ?

Should you be prosecuted if you buy a taco on the street corner ?

There are millions of illegals running their own business or working for individuals . Not businesses

Their networking capabilities are unbelievable including full infiltration into all social services agencies.

All you " no wallers " haven't offered up anything to combat illegal immigration

Either you don't care about the nasty consequences and enormous costs associated or you are just simply clueless

The libs just are doing this to take away from the positive results Trump is having on the economy the korean deal ... They could care less about the kids . Think about it , the majority of them are pro abortion . Kinda strange to think they would care about the life of a child .

I have twice. End the drug war and government administered welfare.

Also, by making government smaller it is less able to hand out freebies, favors and goodies to voters, potential voters and other people present. Neither current major political party has ANY intention of making government irrelevant enough to take away its potential to hand out these things BECAUSE by doing so would take away the POWER that these parties believe belongs rightfully to them.

I agree Fly . That would help immensely

We still need a wall though

Walls around prisons are 99.9 % effective

You see no irony in that last sentence? Equating the beacon of freedom in a world of dung (the United States) to a prison that needs walls?

The states will become as corrupt as DC or worse.
Then who will you complain about.
The no wallers need to send their address to the border. You can feed cloth house pay med bills legal bills and anything else they think they deserve.
About 50 to a acre should be about right to house them.
Start sending those addresses

I don't need to go to Mexico

I'm sure if we have an effective wall to keep the unwanted out you'll still be able to go if you want

The United States is not a prison and a wall to keep it a wonderful place is a must

X2

Yes, and prison walls are meant to keep the masses of good people from going in there and muttering about where they arent supposed to.

Thru the history of mankind walls have been one of the most effective things done to keep unwanted people out of an area.

Anyone who says a wall will not work thinks they are talking to morons or is one stupid sob.

Yep.

As long as we keep subsidizing illegals with rent, food, and medical they will keep taking the risk to come here. End all the freebies and they'll either not come because it's economically infeasible or they'll have to demand a living wage that will force them to compete with folks here.

And the drug cartels have the resources to find a way around the wall... They can hire 100 local men at $20 US a day to dig under the wall... And they'll have a line of people around the block waiting for their chance to get some of that money. They won't care if it costs $50,000 to get it done. They're looking at it as a business expense associated with moving millions of dollars worth of product.

Financial incentives are unstoppable. If you eliminate or mitigate the incentives the problem will take care of itself.

It's Prohibition all over again. Just different products (people/dope) at the center of the fight.

Mike

I don't consider myself to be anti wall in regards to stem the tide of illegal immigrants, I do believe there are these things I have talked about that would be much much much more effective. These things are obviously not politically palatable, as it is uncomfortable to realize that the political group you align yourself with has no intention of A)making government smaller B)ending the drug war.

As far as ending the welfare state, Dr. Thomas Sowell has recently written a book I am currently reading that discusses it in depth. The main point is that humans seem incapable of judging the OUTCOME of policies and only look at the intentions. The intentions of providing a great society and care for our brother citizen thru welfare were right and good. The results of these government programs have been around long enough to study and look at the results. The results are dismal, TO OUR OWN CITIZENS, let alone those who arrive here without permission. Here is a 45 MINUTE youtube interview with Thomas Sowell, if you are interested in the subject please watch it.

Neither does your political group, so you can come down off your high horse now. You know i can post your guys saying they want to ADD people to enforce their grand ideas.

(and i've already posted them before but you over-look them) It's easy to put words on your platform, but a whole other world once ya get elected, or even get asked real questions when your a candidate. Then reality sets in.

Ending welfare for all would be a great thing for the U.S. We shouldn't allow illegals to attend public school either.

Too many bleed'n hearts Danny. Just look how many came outta the woodwork when they just seperated them for a couple days.

How do they verify they are returning the children to their actual parents?

How do they verify the kids came with their actual parents?