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Attn: Wild Plant Experts #6269238
06/29/18 08:23 AM
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Six years ago I photographed only the flower head of a tall wild plant.



So, early this morning, I drove over to a nearby woods where I thought I found that one pictured. It is the only place I have seen them in my area over the years.
I've never seen one in a home flower garden.

Walla!! I found three plants. They are nearly 6 feet tall. The leaves are quite soft and rather large. Is it possible they are a noxious/invasive weed?

Thoughts on an ID would be most appreciated.

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Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269243
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Sheep's Mullein


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Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269250
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We always called it Indian tobacco.

Makes a good fire starting stick. Not that I have ever done it but I have seen it done several times.


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Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269252
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^ Yes mullien^ The dried stalks are supposed to be excellent for use as a hand drill in fire making. I have made smoke with it, because of the high humidity around here I'll stick to the bow drill. They tend to grow on the morning sun side of the road or ditch. Invasive medicinal plant from Europe.

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Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269255
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Verbascum thapsus

Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269259
06/29/18 08:54 AM
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Verbascum thapsus, common mullien. Invasive from Asia, but not aggressive. Biennial.

Nice photo, as always Jonathan. Real common here in the dry west.

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Invasive. We also call it Indian tobacco. Fairly common around this area.

Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269265
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Looks like our Mullen sorta

Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269271
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all over here in my area. the yellow finch seems to like them. or at least always around them.


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Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269276
06/29/18 09:21 AM
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Thank you all for your kind responses and regional ID names. My forgotten name in my memory kicked in when I saw Sheep's Mullein. That is what I called it back then.

Kindest regards,

Jonathan


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Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269278
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I don't know if it's native or not, but i don't think it does any harm to native plants.

Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269300
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My grandmother used to take a leaf of it and make a poultice to put on wounds.....like when a kid stepped on a nail or some such. It is not native, but has been here for centuries.

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Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269310
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One grew in my garden once, seeded out, wow lots of seeds in the stalk

Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269327
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Looks similar to what we call rabbit tobacco


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I've used the leaves for trap covers.

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Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269354
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I rather enjoy seeing them here . In winter, the seed stalks dry and stay for a variety of birds to use when food is scarce . Ive seen woodpeckers and other smaller birds working the tops of those tall stalks which store that food most of the time above snow depth. A natural cache for winter.

Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269361
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A lot of people use mullein to treat lung ailments. I have never used mullein.

It grows on my farm in a few scattered places. It does not seem very invasive. The birds do like the seeds. I see finches and sparrows hanging on the stalks.

Keith

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Indian tobacco


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Mullein it ever where down here including my yard.

Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269385
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What the going market on Mullein now days.

Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269416
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Mullein, and excellent plant for fire building either hand drill or bow drill, have successfully made fire both ways with it. Bob

Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269486
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Do not know what the market is but have saw an increase in usage in my area.


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Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269546
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I've tried selling it dried (leaves) on ebay. Not very successful although some people get it sold there. I put out a couple of bags of it at our big rummage sale this May with it labeled "dried mullein leaves" and went to work. My SiL got so freaked out about it because she thought we'd being accused of selling pot that she threw my stuff away. I have 3-4 plants in the back yard that I'll try doing it again (taking the leaves) and chopping down the rest of the plant, although maybe I'll let one go to seed for the birds. As said already they don't seem to spread fast.


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Lol, your bad!

Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6269866
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Is on our noxious weed act. The seeds remain viable for years in the ground.

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Yup they seed good, lol

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The old timers that dirt trapped with footholds would collect the leaves as a pan cover.The hairy side held the dirt good.


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Re: Attn: Wild Plant Experts [Re: Jonathan] #6270694
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During he first year, the velvety green leaves make the absolute best "mountain money" found in nature or in any store!

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