I might add to eliminate a lot of confusion in the coyote industry as well. CG is really only interested in coyotes from 6 states. Not that every state would produce a diamond in the rough, but those 6 states would produce the vast majority of the coyotes needed for there particular market and interest.

And no its not OK,AR,TX,GA,MO,MS.

I won, so Im waiting for my opponent in the championship round is why I jumped back on.LOL

I might add to eliminate a lot of confusion in the coyote industry as well. CG is really only interested in coyotes from 6 states. Not that every state would produce a diamond in the rough, but those 6 states would produce the vast majority of the coyotes needed for there particular market and interest.

And no its not OK,AR,TX,GA,MO,MS.

I won, so Im waiting for my opponent in the championship round is why I jumped back on.LOL

Producing a lot of coyote for the market using cages ?

Maybe not a cage Aaron but a rifle still works.

Otis, the guys in western edges of MN are averaging near as much as you CO fellers. The Goose shouldn't look past us.

I need some remedial explanation please. In MonsterTom's first post it sounds as though CG is unhappy with two things. The lack of quantity AND moreso the grading. Toms also used the phrase.."if the auctions comply". ( Monster....not doubting anything you say here. Just confused)

So then Coloradocat uses the term "Compliance office"

What I would like to know is COMPLIANCE with WHAT and by WHOM ?

I guess I fail to see how having a trapper sign anything, will increase the quantity and grade of coyotes offered.

Well darn I was hoping to come to y'all's sale in the next year or two. Guess I'll leave my AR coyotes at home.

not bashing GC marty.. just there approach, it is consumers that drive the market.

Consumers may drive the market they may not. Many times a market is developed by a new invention, product or business model. It appears that sustainability and traceability is becoming CG's business model.

[quote=coloradocat]I guess one could always look at the business perspective of things. If you cant find a article or material that you need in your production, then you search out the best alternative market. Wouldn't that just be a pile if that alternative was blue fox.

The bottom line to me is this. CG will do whatever is needed to protect there interest and there customers, and the shareholders. There will be some who would probably comply, and some who certainly wouldn't. Shearling producers seem to be onboard, and the goose down producers seem to be on board. If they cant make the other one work, then refer to the above statement and you search out another article.

Or as a business you only do business with individuals or producers that are willing to comply, and hope they can produce enough to fill the need. And if not refer to the above statement again and search out a article that can.

I guess one could always look at the business perspective of things. If you cant find a article or material that you need in your production, then you search out the best alternative market. Wouldn't that just be a pile if that alternative was blue fox.

The bottom line to me is this. CG will do whatever is needed to protect there interest and there customers, and the shareholders. There will be some who would probably comply, and some who certainly wouldn't. Shearling producers seem to be onboard, and the goose down producers seem to be on board. If they cant make the other one work, then refer to the above statement and you search out another article.

Or as a business you only do business with individuals or producers that are willing to comply, and hope they can produce enough to fill the need. And if not refer to the above statement again and search out a article that can.

So are the guys in NY. One has to remember CG isn't the only game in town. CG has a specific article they want and need. Other knock offs need a different look as well.

Don't kill the messanger, just relaying what I was told. It really doesn't make two _____ to me.

Otis or Todd can correct me if I'm wrong but another thing that was explained to me is the best of the best coyotes aren't necessarily going to CG. There are other users for that market.

I am told that CG has a price range they want to stay in and a certain quality within that range. Make no bones about but the lower end goods are brought up in price from the demand for those higher goods if other users want to utilize coyotes.

I'm with Phil, I've been looking at this kicking and screaming but I am also educating myself to what it is about. You know what the worst part of it for me is so far? I am finding myself agreeing a little bit with Boco. Ouch!

Angela, I'm thinking that of anyone in the country that has discussed this with CG the most, Monster Tom has to be right up there. I think it would behoove the NTA and other organizations to talk to the organizers of the CTA sale and get a feel for what the trend is. Let's get on top of this now and get a seat at the table drafting this stuff instead of being on the menu. BTW thank you for posting the report.

Yes sir, I no doubt would be. Compared to what other states in the six state Mecca ?

It is always nice to know there is another voice of reason out there! If CG can buy the best for the right money they will use them. but like everything, big business has a budget, buy the best you can afford and move on. This is how tractor supply can trim coats bought with $10 coyotes.