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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: hippie] #6272142
07/04/18 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: hippie
They know our trapping laws, or could find them on-line very easy.

I'd like to where they're headed with this. To change some laws or just put a good face on the status quo.




You know where it is headed, just look at the change in the resent wording. It started out as certification, but now its labeled as accountability. I bet James our house lawyer could drive a truck between those two meanings.

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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: yotetrapper30] #6272146
07/04/18 05:40 AM
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Keep in mind people, Canadian Goose is a publicly traded company, and the BOD of that company is able to change direction anytime they feel it's in the best interest of it's shareholders. Poof, it could be gone in a blink of an eye !!



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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: ringtailtrapper] #6272148
07/04/18 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: ringtailtrapper
Originally Posted By: hippie
They know our trapping laws, or could find them on-line very easy.

I'd like to where they're headed with this. To change some laws or just put a good face on the status quo.




You know where it is headed, just look at the change in the resent wording. It started out as certification, but now its labeled as accountability. I bet James our house lawyer could drive a truck between those two meanings.

RTT


Accountability may have been my own word, although I believe I've heard that word used regarding this issue. The word used in the article was "traceabilty".

Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: yotetrapper30] #6272154
07/04/18 06:17 AM
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[/quote]

Accountability may have been my own word, although I believe I've heard that word used regarding this issue. The word used in the article was "traceabilty". [/quote]




Angela, like you I have heard the same thing, and yes the articles I seen at first said traceability. Neither is a good thing for trappers. I'm unable to wrap my head around the idea that by regulating the snot out of my fellow trapper it makes things better, and what does this do to trapper recruitment ?? We are already in an uphill battle there, so do we need another challenge in that department ?? This is something to help a few, and they are putting the spin upon it, and acting all righteous at the same time, and acting like the US trappers have done nothing. Funny how this always seems to come up during market turmoil.


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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: Boco] #6272170
07/04/18 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: Boco

J trap nobody threw the americans under any bus,you negotiated a separate agreement on your own.Trump can get you out of it if you don't like it,hes good at not living up to international agreements.
. You can darn sure keep your thoughts about president Trump to yourself on this AMERICAN site if you have negative words to say about him! To the business though...... this is like me ropin a cow out in the pasture..... tied off..... horse aint ever been roped off....... You get the gist here, headed for a train wreck.

Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: ringtailtrapper] #6272173
07/04/18 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: ringtailtrapper
Keep in mind people, Canadian Goose is a publicly traded company, and the BOD of that company is able to change direction anytime they feel it's in the best interest of it's shareholders. Poof, it could be gone in a blink of an eye !!



RTT
Definantly agree with ringtail trapper! A big black eye or possibky worst than that for the trapping industry is not worth satisfying a company like CG that is here today and coukd be gone tommorow. Again..... headed for a trainwreck here boys.

Last edited by KSlongliner; 07/04/18 09:37 AM.
Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: KSlongliner] #6272183
07/04/18 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: KSlongliner
Originally Posted By: Boco

J trap nobody threw the americans under any bus,you negotiated a separate agreement on your own.Trump can get you out of it if you don't like it,hes good at not living up to international agreements.
. You can darn sure keep your thoughts about president Trump to yourself on this AMERICAN site if you have negative words to say about him! To the business though...... this is like me ropin a cow out in the pasture..... tied off..... horse aint ever been roped off....... You get the gist here, headed for a train wreck.


Sorry about Boco. He lives in a free country where criticism and free speech about anyone, including leaders is ok and welcomed. Heck, please make fun of our leader, he's a tool. Our bad, didn't realize it wasn't ok there...




Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: yotetrapper30] #6272296
07/04/18 01:14 PM
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Only one that goes with me is my dog and he ain't talking. Give me 60 bucks for one and nafa give them 30 for four bucks each. Make more money on their butt glands and heads. Money in killin them not undressing them around here. Let CG kiss their butts.

Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: Hutchy] #6272307
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Originally Posted By: Hutchy
Originally Posted By: KSlongliner
[quote=Boco]
J trap nobody threw the americans under any bus,you negotiated a separate agreement on your own.Trump can get you out of it if you don't like it,hes good at not living up to international agreements.
. You can darn sure keep your thoughts about president Trump to yourself on this AMERICAN site if you have negative words to say about him! To the business though...... this is like me ropin a cow out in the pasture..... tied off..... horse aint ever been roped off....... You get the gist here, headed for a train wreck.


Sorry about Boco. He lives in a free country where criticism and free speech about anyone, including leaders is ok and welcomed. Heck, please make fun of our leader, he's a tool. Our bad, didn't realize it wasn't ok there..

It's in the interests of civility and decorum that I refrained from criticizing Trudeau. Besides, I figured that he's your problem, not ours. Now that I see that we both agree that Trudeau is indeed a tool and you say its OK to disparage him, I'll start (But where do I begin?). Is this a special permission good only today because it's our Independence Day, or can we continue until you Canadians wise up and vote the useless socialist-leaning tool out?

Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: yotetrapper30] #6272325
07/04/18 01:30 PM
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I thought the purpose of trapper education courses, required to get a license in some states, was to teach proper/humane trapping methods. There is the certification CG needs. Don't reckon they'll be visiting AR to get their hands on our lovely coyotes.

Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: yotetrapper30] #6272326
07/04/18 01:32 PM
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The veterinarian necropsys are all a part of the certification of the traps,to determine if the traps meet the time of death parameters


Really, you aren't making this up...? Did you feel any pain when the "traceability" people removed your nuts...?

P.S. So, it probably goes without saying that a single bullet is not "humane"...?


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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: Hutchy] #6272338
07/04/18 01:43 PM
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Sorry about Boco. He lives in a free country where criticism and free speech about anyone, including leaders is ok and welcomed. Heck, please make fun of our leader, he's a tool. Our bad, didn't realize it wasn't ok there...

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Hutchy, Don't apologize for Boco !! You know its not the free speech, or criticism that bothers people when it comes to Boco, so drop that line of bull right in the dirt were it belongs. I have disagreed with him upon certification from the start, and have disagreed with it when it has been brought up in the past, so my position is clear as day, just as Boco's. Ridiculing our President is something that brings no value to the table in regards to a discussion about certification, but yet Boco thought it just fine to travel down that road., that approach speaks volumes. Boco's remarks are also insulting to so many people that have worked tirelessly upon many matters over the past several decades, and animal welfare as he speaks of has been front and center for many associations all across our country, national and state. He gives off the persona that we trappers in the US have done nothing, and that is the farthest thing from the truth. Who in their right mind would agree to certification for access to only a temporary market at best ??


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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: yotetrapper30] #6272348
07/04/18 02:05 PM
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I'll let em ride for 500 a day and hope I blank for at least 2 days to proove that we already use humane equipment, that the coyotes themselves forced us to use just to hold em long ago. whistle
One stipulation they must be blind folded until a catch is made...


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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: yotetrapper30] #6272357
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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: Marty B] #6272370
07/04/18 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Marty B



Yep Marty, and look at how the fishing industry is laden with regulations, and quota's, and how every fisherman complains about those regulations, and quota's, and how it has limited the number of boats in operation anymore. Sustainability for a food source is by far a whole different matter as well Marty. I don't think CG's interest in certification has anything to due with coyotes as a food source, but more to due with public perception in regards with animal welfare. grin Sustainability, and traceability/accountability are very different things.



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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: yotetrapper30] #6272386
07/04/18 02:57 PM
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Not only that but does anyone believe that the coyote population is NOT sustainable ? Do we really need to have that discussion ?


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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: yotetrapper30] #6272387
07/04/18 02:58 PM
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how many do they actually buy in a year???

how many trappers directly benefit from them??


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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: yotetrapper30] #6272411
07/04/18 03:24 PM
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I'd guess lots and I benefit. If they only want certified coyotes and that's where the market is headed I'll go along. If the us decides not to then even better cause that makes mine even more valuable. You guys need to get with the times and stop fighting change.

Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: yotetrapper30] #6272414
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no thanx,and i am happy for you,dont get me wrong.


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Re: Canada Goose Accountability [Re: kingrat] #6272425
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Originally Posted By: kingrat
I'd guess lots and I benefit. If they only want certified coyotes and that's where the market is headed I'll go along. If the us decides not to then even better cause that makes mine even more valuable. You guys need to get with the times and stop fighting change.
...or we could stand together and tell CG to go pound sand. Never the less, the allure of the mighty dollar will drive another nail in the trade of fur trapping.

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