If you people think for one minute that CG is going to pay a higher price for "traceable" coyotes you are fooling yourself. They are a business they won't pay one penny more for a skin than they have to. If they are the only ones bidding on these "traceable" coyotes they will go cheap. I haven't seen where they have bought a top lot to this date. Think about it if they had to have "traceable" fur to satisfy their customers they wouldn't have sold as many fur trimmed garments as they have already. They are trying to satisfy the antis, which is impossible. A better approach would be to market their product as a environmentally sound, renewable resource.

...get with the times? times are changing fast! I am hearing one more good year for coyotes ....then you going to have a poor market with a bunch of unneeded and unwanted trapping restrictions to deal with! and once they are in place, they wont go away with the coyote prices. you get to keep those restrictions....we already have enough regulations in place to warrant what there asking of us. fashion trends seldom last lol.....but restrictions do! the largest percentage of heavy western coyotes in snow country aren't trapped anyway...most come from snaring and hunting!

Well we're already pretty much doing everything they want up here anyway so whatever. And I doubt coyotes are gonna crash anytime soon unless we tell people to go pound sand and they start buying ranched blue fox instead. Canada goose just announced not long ago that they're expanding into china with two new stores opening this fall.

we will see lol do you thing china cares about traceability?

Pfft I don't think China cares about anything. Canada goose who started the whole thing does though. And apparently the rest of the world does.

CG cares about proffit per share or the CEO is out the door.

No disrespect to our friends to the north, but thinking about this i see no reason for ya'll supporting this. Is it to qualify your accepting and spending all that time and money on AIHTS?

I don't see any difference in our traps/snares (talking Coyote trapping) compared to yours that amount to a hill of beans, other than we didn't spend money and sign some agreement. Are your snares marked? No.

Like i said earlier, carefull what you wish for, you may end up with our stupid (and more humane) laws like a 24hr check.

Tell me what is better about your trapping methods that you support a private company dictating your trapping.

Absolutely nothing. But if they want to call me a certified humane trapper or whatever they want I'll sign a paper saying I am, why not. Like I said it's stuff were all pretty much doing anyway.

It never has been about persuading antis.I cant believe so many don't understand that.The antis put out BS propaganda about trapping practices that have been illegal for 50 years.Trappers know for a fact that this propaganda is pure lies,but the general public that wants to buy our finished product does not.cg and other manufacturers could care less about harvest methods,but the buyers of their product in North America and Europe do.
If they cant prove and certify to the general public(not the antis) what we as trappers know already,that is, that what we do is humane and up to current international standards,then they cant sell their product in a lot of markets,because the retailers wont carry it.
More and more of the larger fur salons are not carrying garments that don't have traceable and certified labels on them.
Next time you go to larger cities like NY,Chicago,Toronto etc go into saks, The bay, and other fur salons that carry the top manufactured fur garments and look at the labels.It is all certified + traceable garments from Europe and Russia.Nothing from North America,because our product is not yet c+t labelled.
And as was mentioned this is indeed all about marketing to the modern consumers,who have no qualms about buying fur as long as they know it is humanely harvested and certified as not from an endangered species.

consumer smoke screen .....same one they are pushing with organic food products lol

Some fur buyers are already tagging yotes by state now.

Just more to make trapping less profitable .

Certifacation is only worth the value of the tag it's printed on. How in the world could they verify thousands of coyotes? You trappers that have more than 24 hour checks will end up with 24 hour checks like most states east of the Misssisipi. Therefore your cost of production and effeicientcy will go south quick. In reality they should already label all species.....

They don't certify the animal they certify the source.No one is looking at any expanded regulation.You have your BMP's we have AIHTS.

They are working on a method of certifying what we already do.

why? .....been doing that with bobcats for years (cities tag)....quality is what sells. most fur buyers can tell what state or area that they came from by looking at the quality of the pelt. and if you cant , well what state would you like me to say there from?!!!!)))

Oh I bet Russia has a very good program on certifying humane trapping standards. Get real.

Yes they do,they are under the AIHTS agreement like Canada,and they have gone to C+T already.Their incentive was to stop smuggling and tax avoidance.

I have been trapping coyote with rams for years. And let me tell you, shyte happens as well! I got 1 last year that tangled the ram up and got slack on the snare and lived quite a while. A hip caught one last year was not a pretty sight, messy catch circle.95 percent are dead, I've had two drop on the spot, not a Reich made, no mark in the snow. But about once a year it happens if u trap enough. I personally think our province quickly made the ram the only legal device simply to appease the antis, to heck with the trappers opinion, and his ability to use his tools humanely and just use common sense. I have used senneker snares as well and they put big dogs down fast. Yet they are illegal without a permit. What we use here is dictated by people who never even see a trap set. It makes no sense, they should let the trappers, who have the experience, decide what is ethical, at least to some degree.

Incorrect. We have BMPs, but they are guidelines, not mandates. Mandating BMPs WOULD be expanded regulation. Including not being able to snare any of those pale heavies....

two totally different agendas there boco lol