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#6276277 - 07/10/18 10:49 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
Poorcoon Offline
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Registered: 04/03/18
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Loc: Nebraska
I sold a badger for $10 us. A fox for $20. Two beavers for a total of $30. Which I'm probably most excited about. In a depressing kind of way. 4 coons for $5.25 a piece. And 0 possums wink
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#6276284 - 07/10/18 11:14 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
redfoxtrap2008 Offline
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Registered: 08/13/08
Posts: 296
Loc: kentucky
my otter question answered.They lotted our fresh otter shipped to late for may separate in the 600s had there been interest in the otter left from may they were prepared to sell them.Although available pt he said they wouldn't sell them till after the May carryover was sold.More than likely won't sell till next February. at least that's what I was told.


Edited by redfoxtrap2008 (07/10/18 11:18 AM)

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#6276290 - 07/10/18 11:20 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: pass-thru]
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Registered: 12/27/06
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Loc: MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
Originally Posted By: pass-thru
not much to talk about because everything was bought back. Stupid to have 2 auctions this close together, especially in a down market. They should split the difference and run routes accordingly.


I agree. They should have one less auction than they do too.
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#6276293 - 07/10/18 11:28 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
curtisd Offline
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Registered: 03/30/13
Posts: 450
Loc: kentucky
my fur was picked up march 17 and still didn't make the may auction.

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#6276345 - 07/10/18 01:24 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
Duckstick80 Offline
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Registered: 05/09/18
Posts: 38
Loc: NORTH DAKOTA
Does anyone on here know why I never got a lotting letter for my red fox that I shipped to Nafa April 23? It appeared that they had enough lots that I should've been in a couple of them. I'm also missing mink but they didn't have better than II grade in my section and I caught mine mid november and the leather wasnt blue.

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#6276346 - 07/10/18 01:28 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
redfoxtrap2008 Offline
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Registered: 08/13/08
Posts: 296
Loc: kentucky
I have a bunch of Fox shipped about that time I called today they are in cold storage till January..I assume you're in the same boat also all my mink too

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#6276348 - 07/10/18 01:32 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
Duckstick80 Offline
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Registered: 05/09/18
Posts: 38
Loc: NORTH DAKOTA
Curtisd I believe the shipping deadline for the March sale was March 15 at my Depot in ND it was probably earlier at yours.


Edited by Duckstick80 (07/10/18 01:33 PM)

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#6276350 - 07/10/18 01:42 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
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Registered: 01/06/07
Posts: 11707
Loc: north Idaho
I'm thinking that there are quite a few NAFA shippers that sent goods for the July sale that are having those goods held until next season. It sucks for those shippers but there is a perfectly logical reason for NAFA to do so.

With the May sale being late in the season and the July sale only 6 weeks later, the receipt of fresh goods for the July sale was rather low. With quite a few species - wild mink, skunk, possum, badger, grey fox, ermine, and some sections of red fox - NAFA simply did not have a large enough collection to put up decent lots.

Rather than just throw everything into one big jumbled lot or have lots with just a few skins in each lot, NAFA decided to hold those skins over until next season. They will be combined with fresh goods to be put up with other goods to make lots that are more attractive to the buyers.

Even though those shippers have to wait 7-8 months for their goods to be offered, I think it is the best decision and the one that makes the most sense.
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#6276366 - 07/10/18 02:11 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
redfoxtrap2008 Offline
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Registered: 08/13/08
Posts: 296
Loc: kentucky
that's probably right only another reason a July sale was a terrible idea for shippers and they knew that.

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#6276621 - 07/10/18 09:14 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: redfoxtrap2008]
4488 Offline
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Registered: 01/09/08
Posts: 767
Loc: Indiana
The July sale had nothing to do with wild fur. It's all about mink,mink,mink, etc.etc. There were some female and dgd mink that sold for less than $10. I believe the cost of skinning and fleshing is around $4. Then commission, shipping, etc.
The mink farmers may have to buy their own skins back. They can throw them in the trailer with the approx. one million raccoon that they bought in speculation a few years ago.

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#6276717 - 07/11/18 12:54 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
don Wolf Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 7533
Loc: evansville Indiana age72
I agree with Terry. Until this glut of cheap ranch Mink gets through the pipe line, most wild fur is going to suffer badly. The production of ranch Mink is dropping, but not fast enough. After this season, you may see a large decline in ranch Mink production. In my thoughts the production needs to be below 50 million skins , even less won't hurt anything. 25 million would be a good production number until they get all the old stock out of storage. I remember a time that there was 25 to 30 million ranch mink on auction and at that time people was worried about the numbers hurting the markets.
I didn't check on numbers for this year but if the number was still 80 million or more, I see what is happening.

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#6277468 - 07/12/18 01:42 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2587
Loc: Va
Anybody have castor move on this auction? Mine was lotted, but never sold or bought back...still a chance of selling?

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#6277554 - 07/12/18 07:18 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
Hancock Offline
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Registered: 12/31/14
Posts: 19
Loc: Maryland
I'm in the same boat as you Pass-thru my castor or otter didn't sell or show bought back. I'm assuming that it was never offered during this sale.

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#6277556 - 07/12/18 07:19 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
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Registered: 01/06/07
Posts: 11707
Loc: north Idaho
Castor is not offered on the open auction. It is sold privately, usually shortly after the auction.

Results should be posted before checks are cut.
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#6277572 - 07/12/18 07:53 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
Hancock Offline
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Registered: 12/31/14
Posts: 19
Loc: Maryland
Thanks for the info this was my first time sending castor in.

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#6277757 - 07/12/18 01:32 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
pass-thru Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2587
Loc: Va
castor sales just posted to my account

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#6277771 - 07/12/18 02:23 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
Hancock Offline
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Registered: 12/31/14
Posts: 19
Loc: Maryland
It's posted to mine also now. Any idea on how they are sold now by the ounce or by the individual castor? It looks like by the castor to me thanks for any input.

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#6277781 - 07/12/18 02:45 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2587
Loc: Va
They grade them and weigh them, and sell by the oz according to grade. The shrinkage always leaves plenty of room for head scratching.

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#6277796 - 07/12/18 03:14 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
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Registered: 01/06/07
Posts: 11707
Loc: north Idaho
NAFA sells cantor by the ounce. There are 3 grades - select, ordinary and shells. Some time they list them as 1s, 2s, 3s.

Selects (1s) are plump full castors that are dry to the touch but still flexible. Should not be dried rock hard.

Shells (3s) are empty castors, damaged castors and small ones that are dried rock hard.

Ordinary (2s) is everything else.

Castor is continually drying, unless stored in a freezer. Your castor may be dry when you shipmit, but NAFA will take a further reduction for shrinkage. Sometimes as much as 30%.

When you consider shrinkage and NAFA fees, there are usually better places to sell castor. Lure makers, state association sales and some country dealers. Check around before you ship next season.
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#6278227 - 07/13/18 07:20 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
gibb Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1000
Loc: North Bay Ontario
Originally Posted By: wissmiss
NAFA sells cantor by the ounce. There are 3 grades - select, ordinary and shells. Some time they list them as 1s, 2s, 3s.

Selects (1s) are plump full castors that are dry to the touch but still flexible. Should not be dried rock hard.

Shells (3s) are empty castors, damaged castors and small ones that are dried rock hard.

Ordinary (2s) is everything else.

Castor is continually drying, unless stored in a freezer. Your castor may be dry when you shipmit, but NAFA will take a further reduction for shrinkage. Sometimes as much as 30%.

When you consider shrinkage and NAFA fees, there are usually better places to sell castor. Lure makers, state association sales and some country dealers. Check around before you ship next season.


Kind of the same deal as grading, 99% of trappers don't have a clue what real grading is. Castor is a hard product to work with, it continuously dries until it turns almost black and is worthless. NAFA handles it slightly different then FHA in that they have it in drying racks and you get what it is when they grade it out. FHA uses a straight forward deduction per shipment. Both methods work.
The buying customer does not want to buy 200lbs at a time that turns into 160lbs after drying.
I graded enough castor to know the stunts that some trappers pulloff like packing rocks or stuffing castor shells into castor pods to increase the weigh. Or ripping the castor out full of fat and membrane still attached or leaving the penis still half attached.
Not a lot of fun cleaning up moldy castor because it's was not dried properly.
Both auction houses have castor handling information on their web sites that explain the proper handling method for a reason.
http://www.nafa.ca/wp-content/uploads/Beaver-Castor.pdf

http://furharvesters.com/pdf/castor_eng.pdf

And as a matter of fact the auction houses set the price for castor that everyone else follows.

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