Re: NAFA wild fur auction
[Re: 4488]
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07/08/18 11:09 PM
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My best advice----quit producing. That's exactly what needs to happen...but it won't anytime soon. Trappers are penny wise and pound foolish. Just look at the Canada Goose thread. I sent a few pelts up for this year for the first time in 4 years. A fox I caught last year that looked surprisingly good for sitting in a freezer over a year, and some beaver and castor from a damage job this winter. None of it sold. I was hoping with the rising cost of oil things would start to move. Apparently not. When the economy crashed in 08 it fur for about a year and then popped back quickly. This is much more severe. Started with Crimea and then the dropping price of oil. The first 2 years I cut back on trapping and sold hold my pelts having had them professionally tanned. Decent return but that market seems to have been exhausted. So I will just stick to ADC jobs until the fur market is back solid, if ever. I will trap coyotes on my place but that will be it. Just as alarming is the way trappers and the fur industry have seemingly abandoned the North American market. Fur adds value to fashion and it would be embraced my many. But without a marketing foundation it won't move itself. Oh well.
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Re: NAFA wild fur auction
[Re: 4488]
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07/09/18 01:05 AM
07/09/18 01:05 AM
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wallfur
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Thank you Marty Raccoon are selling for a couple of bucks. Ranch mink sold for the cost of one weeks food in some cases, and almost all that sold did not bring production cost. If anyone can put a little whipped cream on this then have a nice snack. I am most likely invested more than anyone on this forum in wild fur (and btw,I try to avoid this forum) but it does reach a lot of wild fur producers. My best advice----quit producing. ......prayers sent......stop buying!
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Re: NAFA wild fur auction
[Re: wissmiss]
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07/09/18 01:32 AM
07/09/18 01:32 AM
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with the ranch fur production worldwide controlling the market, our wild fur production makes a very small difference in price in the overall scheme of things.
Last edited by wallfur; 07/09/18 01:34 AM.
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Re: NAFA wild fur auction
[Re: wissmiss]
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07/09/18 07:18 AM
07/09/18 07:18 AM
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I certainly hope this changes soon, as I've been having all my furs tanned and selling them but as someone else said that market is now saturated too
For the last two years I was selling the tanned goods in less than six months, now I'm sitting on coon like the speculators are. Nice thing is mine isn't going stale but it cost way more per pelt
Time to find myself a new market I guess. This seasons pelts will be sold raw again, as I still have 50 + at tanneries and some beaver that still have to.be sent in (they are already spoken for) Guess the bad market finally caught up to me
But the bright side is ADC work is up and it pays more per critter
You gotta love trapping to keep laying steel this season, and I'll be laying steel
Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!
If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
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Re: NAFA wild fur auction
[Re: pass-thru]
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07/09/18 07:17 PM
07/09/18 07:17 PM
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wallfur
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My best advice----quit producing. That's exactly what needs to happen...but it won't anytime soon. Trappers are penny wise and pound foolish. Just look at the Canada Goose thread. I sent a few pelts up for this year for the first time in 4 years. A fox I caught last year that looked surprisingly good for sitting in a freezer over a year, and some beaver and castor from a damage job this winter. None of it sold. I was hoping with the rising cost of oil things would start to move. Apparently not. When the economy crashed in 08 it fur for about a year and then popped back quickly. This is much more severe. Started with Crimea and then the dropping price of oil. The first 2 years I cut back on trapping and sold hold my pelts having had them professionally tanned. Decent return but that market seems to have been exhausted. So I will just stick to ADC jobs until the fur market is back solid, if ever. I will trap coyotes on my place but that will be it. Just as alarming is the way trappers and the fur industry have seemingly abandoned the North American market. Fur adds value to fashion and it would be embraced my many. But without a marketing foundation it won't move itself. Oh well. ....quit producing will not solve the problem. it will not create any new markets, it will only result in over population of animals and large die offs with loss of habitat, if the fur market is going to survive, you will need china, Russia and big name endorsements from north america. niki signed labron james to a lifetime 1 billion dollar contract....and now they cant make enough shoes fast enough to keep up with demand at 200 to 400 dollars a pair....multi millions coming in on monthly basis. popularity sales will go far beyond what C and T could even dream of. CG needs to redirect its advertising IMO....but its there company!!! sometimes I wonder what there real agenda is?
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Re: NAFA wild fur auction
[Re: bblwi]
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07/09/18 10:42 PM
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Wow I had 1 xsm rat that sold for .60. My 54 2xl-3xl-1* rats were all bought back. It seems that there is not a real market for the bigger better grade rats at this time.
Bryce Sorry to hear that bblwi. I had a bunch that were 3x I* that sold in the first lot after the selects again. I do have 2 xsm rats that weren't in your lot that havent sold. Should have just tossed them in the crockpot but I let a newbie skin them. $4 average on rats here and I will try to put up several thousand more this year!
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Re: NAFA wild fur auction
[Re: wannabe1]
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07/10/18 08:14 AM
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any word on marten/sable prices? JUL 2018 - WILD FUR CATALOGUE #3 SABLE 3XL-L HEAVY 2018年7月 - 野生皮目录 3 貂鼠 (加/美紫貂) 三加大-大号 厚底绒 - PAGE 目录页 1.01 - LOT 把号 SIZE GRADE COLOR CLR 尺寸 级别 色泽 清晰 QTY 数量 PRICE (USD) 价格 433601 3XL-XXL *SEL PL 4 30 BOUGHT BACK 433602 3XL-XXL *SEL PL-XP 3 225 BOUGHT BACK 433603 3XL-XXL *I XD-DBR 57 BOUGHT BACK 433604 3XL-XXL *I LBR 3 18 BOUGHT BACK 433605 3XL-XXL *I PL-XP 3 95 BOUGHT BACK 433606 34 BOUGHT BACK 433607 3XL-XL SDA BR 3 294 BOUGHT BACK 433608 3XL-XL SDA LBR 3 212 BOUGHT BACK 433609 180 BOUGHT BACK 433610 94 BOUGHT BACK 433611 XXL-XL *SEL PL-XP 4 203 BOUGHT BACK 433612 XXL-XL *I PL-XP 4 85 BOUGHT BACK 433613 XL *SEL BR 3 220 85.00 433614 200 85.00 433615 200 85.00 433616 150 85.00 433617 XL *SEL LBR 3 237 85.00 433618 200 85.00 433619 200 85.00 433620 200 85.00
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Re: NAFA wild fur auction
[Re: wallfur]
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07/10/18 08:59 AM
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apparently not the same thing you are. Why don’t you let the man have his opinions? Whether you agree or not.
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Re: NAFA wild fur auction
[Re: Riverotter2]
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07/10/18 09:00 AM
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Some one buying (well Buying might not be the right word) southern coons. Just sold 646 more for a big 3.17 avg. Glad to I been wanting to buy a new four wheel drive with my coon hide money. I guess the bright side is they are moving??? Were these all sizes and colors?
"Good Lord, thank you for your endless bounty. Lord please give me the strength to gather what I need"
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Re: NAFA wild fur auction
[Re: handitrapper]
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07/10/18 09:59 AM
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apparently not the same thing you are. Why don’t you let the man have his opinions? Whether you agree or not. ....ok fair enough...i am done posting carry on.
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