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#6275393 - 07/09/18 07:02 AM Deleted
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#6275409 - 07/09/18 07:42 AM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: Aix sponsa]
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Registered: 01/15/13
Posts: 322
Loc: ky
Lack of basic knowledge of animals, lots of people make the mistake of giving them the human brain! Animals make every move on instinct if it walks or crawls it can be killed or trapped!
Then in my country there are people who thank they can trap or kill one or two. And it's over. I use to do some work and can't tell you how many people belive that! The public don't understand when some slick talker tells sure I be there take care of it in a day or 2! Red flag to me is a operator won't even look at the job and on and on! So they get a jack leg who catches 1 then deems the rest untouchable. These are your beaver educators this country's full of um!
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#6275443 - 07/09/18 08:31 AM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: Aix sponsa]
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Registered: 01/18/16
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Loc: Louisiana
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#6275531 - 07/09/18 11:48 AM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: Aix sponsa]
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Posts: 322
Loc: ky
I know what you mean, the difference with you and a challenge is you know it's gonna be a challenge and you can't stop till there gone,and then the problem will be solved!
And yes challenging ones self is the only way to learn!
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#6279105 - 07/14/18 06:31 PM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: Aix sponsa]
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Registered: 10/01/11
Posts: 120
Loc: Schenectady, NY
If the client is convinced they can't be caught, then you can charge more per animal!

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#6279639 - 07/15/18 03:48 PM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: EatenByLimestone]
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Registered: 02/23/14
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Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: EatenByLimestone
If the client is convinced they can't be caught, then you can charge more per animal!



Charge em more? Iíve given refunds before LOL

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#6279656 - 07/15/18 04:47 PM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: Aix sponsa]
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Registered: 08/08/11
Posts: 16826
Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
Well,animals like to occupy an area for a reason,and if the populations are unmanaged on the landscape,that means there is likely an overpopulation on a wider scale,thus more will move in after you take out the offenders.
Wildlife management is the solution.When the animals are not managed on the landscape then the nuisance work is just reactive to a larger problem.

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#6279670 - 07/15/18 05:31 PM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: Boco]
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Originally Posted By: Boco
Well,animals like to occupy an area for a reason,and if the populations are unmanaged on the landscape,that means there is likely an overpopulation on a wider scale,thus more will move in after you take out the offenders.
Wildlife management is the solution.When the animals are not managed on the landscape then the nuisance work is just reactive to a larger problem.



Right. Which is why I will give an honest assessment prior to the first Setup. I expect to find multiple drainages occupied. Success will depend on adjacent landowner cooperation, no doubt.

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#6280646 - 07/17/18 07:19 AM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: Aix sponsa]
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Registered: 08/08/07
Posts: 925
Loc: Monroeville NJ
Sometimes there is a small % of uncatchable animals. Most will fall in the 80% and can be caught, and even most of the 20% can be caught with effort or even a lot of effort, but there are some that just are not going to be caught. Most of the time, these can't catch ums. for me, take off when the pressure is being applied. only to come back at a later time. I have had 2 beaver jobs come to mind that this happened and many coon, squirrel and groundhog jobs over the past 39 years that just takes off, and the person not looking for it can miss it. I am always looking for it, I have developed ways to see this. (6 phases of the grey squirrel, 6 phases of the coon and skunk phases) I know I am not the best, and may not catch all and everything all the time. sometimes the critter kicks my butt LOL Seeing it coming makes me feel better LOL


I remember a job where I was getting my tail handed to me by a groundhog. Every time I set up snare or cage it took off, (can't use killers or foot holds) I would pull the traps and 5 to 7 days the hog would come back. It was getting old LOL I was standing in the yard trying to think what I can do when this person comes to the fence and said I will show you how to catch that thing!!!!! I was in a very bad mood and Jeff you know how straight forward I can be when I am not happy. LOL I looked at him and said yeah think so????? He said watermelon you have to understand what your doing and know the right bait. I looked at him and said why don't you follow me to my truck I want to show you something. We went to my truck and there was bunch of critters in there. He looked for a sec, then looked at me with this dumb expression of wow. I said I think I know what I am doing now leave me alone!!!!!!! LOL I never got that hog It just got tired of me hounding it and disappeared.


A job like you talked about can happen, and to the person that is involved they may be causing the job to go that way, and not know it. I know I have caused it to happen. In their minds it is unsolvable. They think I am good so there for no one can do it. I call this thinking more highly of my self than I really am LOL And GOD brings a dumb animal I can't catch, to me to force me back to reality LOL

Maybe habitat modification is needed after they are taken out, to keep them out to really totally solve the problem long term, But folks tend to do what they want rather than what is smart for no other reason than this is what I think, based on nothing more than what I think. (that is a mind twister !!!!!) I can't tell you how many folks mess things up because they try modification while they are trying to catch. LOL A calm animal is easier to catch than a keyed up animal and habitat modification to make the animal leave or not want to be there will definitely key up a critter LOL
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#6280744 - 07/17/18 10:00 AM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: Aix sponsa]
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Registered: 08/08/11
Posts: 16826
Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
To catch the shy ones,It helps a lot if you are not hindered by trapcheck time limits.Staying away from GOOD BLIND sets for a longer time will often be the downfall of the shy critter.


Edited by Boco (07/17/18 10:01 AM)

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#6280899 - 07/17/18 03:24 PM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: Aix sponsa]
BigBob Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 14601
Loc: St. Louis Co, Mo
Shoulda tried the melon anyway, I will keep that in the back of my head for someday.
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#6281045 - 07/17/18 07:03 PM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: BigBob]
Jonesie Offline
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Registered: 08/08/07
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Loc: Monroeville NJ
Originally Posted By: BigBob
Shoulda tried the melon anyway, I will keep that in the back of my head for someday.


My baits I make have melon in them LOL
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#6283004 - 07/20/18 09:50 AM Re: I Donít Think You CAN Catch Them? Do What? [Re: Jonesie]
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Originally Posted By: Jonesie
Originally Posted By: BigBob
Shoulda tried the melon anyway, I will keep that in the back of my head for someday.


My baits I make have melon in them LOL



Good move. Everything seems to love watermelon.



You should see what critters will do to a watermelon patch. Deer and coyotes can be heck on melons...so can rabbits and crows.

Deer don't play around. Those jokers will stomp em and make them look like a watermelon-leather bowl. They'll even leave some seeds in the bowl.

Coyotes have more trouble trying to get in on the action, but they can still cause problems.

Rabbits will chew on the rind until the melon ends up going sour. Crows will eat seedlings then ruin fruit that is almost ripe. Deer have no mercy.

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