•••trapping beavers on land w/ footholds•••?
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Anyone set specifically for beaver on land using footholds? Say using a 1.75? Was the trap offset? How long a chain? I'm not talking about long chaining beaver. I mean holding them on land like you would a coon or yote. Thanks
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Only with bodygrips. Well camouflaged 280 on a dry crossover whacks beaver, bobcat, and otter. I figure a 220 would work well also. Of course most States don't have the option, and even where legal you must be in a suitable location to avoid non-targets.
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I guess should have specified footholds.
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Short chain beaver in small foot hold on dry land is a recipe for catch and release.
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Short chain beaver in small foot hold on dry land is a recipe for catch and release. Are you speaking from experience?
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No! I would never make a set like that. If I have to catch them on dry land, there are much better methods.
But I have seen what happens on front foot catches when something gets tangled and they do not go down the drowner. Consider the size and strength of the beaver compared to the small front foot. Long chain on dry land without entanglement, you might hold them but I do not think you will hold many on a short chain.
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Thinking "out loud" here, what if one were to use say an offset, laminated 1.75 coil with 10-12" of swiveled chain with no entaglements?
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If you are only speaking of dryland footholds for beaver I would think that there are more efficient tools out there.
One way to find out is just give it a try. Too my way of thinking I would want a wide jaw face and lots of swivel points if I was going to try it. I think I will stick with BG's and snares.
It may would work better if you could consistently target the back foot, but then you would need a larger trap which aren't legal on land in a lot of States.
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I believe Clint Locklear mentions doing this in his book Beaver Blitzkreig.If I recall right he used 1.75's and stressed lots of swivels.
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I believe Clint Locklear mentions doing this in his book Beaver Blitzkreig.If I recall right he used 1.75's and stressed lots of swivels.
I actually bought his book and only just started reading it. I Found the spot where he mentions he caught 137 beaver with victor 1.75 offset and laminated, short chained. He lost 4 beaver, 3 of the 4 were caught in non-laminated traps. Interesting concept, seems u could put in two small traps to one drowner set up
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I used number threes or fours on 6 foot of chain with a drag the way Paul taught me. You trapped beavers using drags?
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Caught more than a few and held them like that while coon trapping.
So I ran a fun little experiment with staked short chained NW 1.75, held 66 before one loss.
Very interesting. How’s that size trap handle a rear foot? I’ve heard that a small trap short chained will hold em by the front foot no problem. I was told that as long as the front legbone doesn’t break, the trap will hold em, and small coils aren’t likely to break it. I try to keep my sets in the water. If I’m after beaver, I’m after beaver. I do not want anything else. Everytime I catch a non target, it means the beaver job will take that much longer. I don't recall how many back foot catches were involved if any ? All these were caught on dry land just above the waterline though, steep mud banks, easy to control the foot placement.
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I used number threes or fours on 6 foot of chain with a drag the way Paul taught me. You trapped beavers using drags? Just like Mr Dobbins taught me. But just like anyone who uses drags and doesn't want to trail anything anywhere, I PRE-HOOKED the drag. Also, have 2 swivels in the first 2 foot of chain AND a shock spring,,,the SS is required by law if chain exceeds 8".
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The problem with holding a beaver by the front foot is that their front feet are not held on very well. If you score the skin on a beaver with a knife, you can easily wring the front foot off by hand. You hit that one on the nail.It is too easy for that to happened if the right trap is not set up right.Or use of the wrong trap.
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The problem with holding a beaver by the front foot is that their front feet are not held on very well. If you score the skin on a beaver with a knife, you can easily wring the front foot off by hand. You hit that one on the nail.It is too easy for that to happened if the right trap is not set up right.Or use of the wrong trap. Agreed, was thinking of smooth laminations or softcatch.
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Agreed, was thinking of smooth laminations or softcatch.
I'd avoid a softie in case that lil front foot goes in.......that flexibility and "give" may not hold well, especially if ya only gat a couple toes. Lams could help. I used my normal beaver traps, 4 coil Bridger 5's or 20 yr old CDR's.
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I have caught four beaver in small footholds over the years. Two were in a 1.5 vic coil, one in a vic #11 long, the other in a vic #00 long. No escapes, no damage. My son caught one in a #1 NW coil.
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I have had a lot of beaver surprise catches at coon sets near creeks over the years. Most were in #2 or #11 longs but some in 1.5 coils too. These were in dirthole sets, or blind trail sets near creeks or ponds. Some front foot catches, some rear foot catches, one by tail. I short chain all of my traps and use lots of swivels. None were targets all surprise catches but was always pleased to see them still held at the set. I never thought to try this on purpose for beaver I usially made beaver specific sets if that was the case. I can't rember how many beaver used to show up at my coon and mink pocket sets. Set for a mouse, stake for an elephant was what my uncle always taught me. Held a lot of beaver at coon and mink pockets by front foot in 1.5 coils and #11s or #2s. Some were really big beaver too. Jim
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