This brings up another point I have been thinking about. Doctor licensing and the oath they take to treat anyone and everyone regardless of the ability or notion to pay the bill. So, because of their ethical conviction, the cost of the deadbeats is spread out to others. As far as I know, this is a fact. So, why do we as a government mandate the doctors obtain licensing, and demand that they have this oath of ethics? I could care less about the doctors ethics. I would like to pay for the services rendered to me, and if his ethics demand that be treat others for free, the charity can come from his.own heart and wallet.

I agree jerry. time to end socialism. no welfare. for anybody.

It's like a dog with a big litter sucking then it depends what end of the teat your on after a while! LOL

Well, the opportunity is ripe to make some moves on a national level in regards to many of these socialistic attitudes, but I don't hear any moves being made. I do hear about going to a bar and looking what another man is doing and wondering how it will affect my pocketbook.

You will be stabilized and then be moved to a welfare (State run or contracted hospital) never seen dead bodies outside of a hospital in all my years! LOL Oh the drama the mind can create!

The one I dealt with last night was given outstanding treatment and better care then I have ever received with no cost spared that including a expense transfer for better free care that they will never ever pay for.

Looks a little different from this side of the teat!

your side of the teat is you earn your money. le I don't mind paying taxes for

Life would be good if you never had to leave the porch and deal with life everyday and getting paid to do that would be even better! LOL People are a strange critter for sure.

Amazing how the money spent on the "war on drugs" is all wasted but the that spent on the ones using drugs is somehow a investment the future??? Just don't see it, I guess offering help is one thing enabling a human is another thing but where do you draw the line is the question, heck if I know.

It's the end of the world as we know it!

I don't think we ought to spend money on addicts either. They will either clean up or die. I really seriously doubt there is anything anyone can do for them. They have to decide for themselves. Drugs were made illegal because using causes misery. There is no denying that. I think its time to call the experiment for criminalizing them a failure though and move on.

Not the end but the next 10 years will be interesting when the drug epidemic meets the safe space crowd I cannot imagine the drain on social services and what the environment it will create when the systems are overwhelmed, I can see many folks walking away from careers to keep their own sanity when the hopelessness comes about!

What I don't understand about those " Safe injection sites", is that they have people go there to shoot up their Heroin, and they have the POLICE there to keep a watch over things. Well, wouldn't the possession of those drugs be enough to justify an arrest ? Why can't they make the addicts cough up their Drug Dealer ? On the one hand , the Police are supposed to enforce the law, and on the other hand, the Police stand outside those Safe Injection Sites while the Addicts are getting high on illegal drugs ?? How does that make any sense ?

FlynFinn I'm no doctor, but I play one on T.V:) Seriously, though, I speak from personal experience. My own step father was a meth addict and a scum bag his whole life. In and out of prison, terrorizing our family and beating the snot out of my mother anytime he was out. Nobody ever made him stick a needle in his arm, he chose it over us. I understand the reason people say it's a disease, the basic idea is that the drug changes the thought patterns of the brain. But nobody ever made my step father choose to stick a needle in his arm, the first time he ever did it, he wasn't addicted. He made that choice all on his own. The last time he was in prison, he was in for seven years. He was clean and free of addiction when he got out, but what did he do? He went right down to his dealer and stuck a needle in his arm.

Just another sanctuary stance from the powers above the Cops would like nothing more then to be allowed to do their jobs, I doubt they use on the spot anyways it's kind of like a condom handout here ya go but you gotta go to use it! LOL

Liberals 'solutions' are not supposed to make common sense..

Legalize all drugs and end welfare.

Yeah it might hurt for a while, but we would save a lot of money in the long run.

They started that here a couple of years ago due to the spreading of HIV. I always tell people they should just hang the drug dealers. Scott County Indiana is the biggest drug capital in the state and the kids suffer.

I am okay with giving addicts needles if they in exchange give up the right to have children.

Keith

Really, Danny?

There is so much going on in this post I don't know where to start. But guess I will start with lawdog, since his posts caught my attention the most.



It sounds as if lawdog is viewing this situation only through Cop eyes....or more specifically, regional cop eyes. I'd be curious to see the % of addicts that were "raised on aid his whole life" versus those that never received a drop of aid. If we were talking crack cocaine, he'd likely be correct, but this post was about heroin, and I'd bet that number would be less than 25%. Likely far less. Heroin is not a ghetto drug. But it seems most of Lawdog's experience is with ghetto folks.




So you think a person suffering from depression due to a loss of a loved one, or a soldier that just got back from the sandbox.... should have no control over their own lives and the medications prescribed to them? Does volunteering your life to your country come with an attached caveat that once you've served your duty you must acquiesce to whatever cops in SD feel is best for you?

YES.... any addict I ever knew would have RAN to the next room for a clean needle. Most addicts are NOT morons.... I expect most addicts are smarter than you.... judging solely from your posts tonight.



Well, I paid weekly into a health insurance plan I never once used for nearly 20 years. Who's healthcare was I paying for... because it wasn't mine! Care to tell me why a person with health care can not be treated at a hospital????? 3 months ago I was in one, and it was 3 days before they even asked me if I had insurance..... I didn't have health care... and now have reasonable bills. But if I had had healthcare... I'd (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) sure hope they'd have stabilized me in the 3 days it took to find out whether or not I did.