Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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A profit from people that don't have a pot to pee in really! Treatment, jail, lawyers, medical care cost the abuser pays nothing! The best they can do is put a lean on their property for legal fees but they have little to no property so the County/State eats that bill.
The cost of a murder trail alone can cripple a small County and the accused won't pay a penny!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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I don't think the percentage of people addicted to drugs and/or alcohol has ever changed much throughout history. Demographics change but there's always going to be a percentage of any population that is, for whatever reasons, going to be predisposed to addiction to mood-altering drugs, including alcohol.
Religions and governments have been trying to stop drug and alcohol abuse for centuries with little or no success.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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Until you spend several hours sitting a few feet from a 2 year old that was kicked to death to preserve the chain of custody until the State DCI shows up then see the photos being taken of a child bruised head to toe. You will never understand the real victims.
The ironic part is the child killed that his mother had this child in custody also and is in prison for abusing the kids of the first mother, so this child was the child of the 2nd woman he hooked up with and she had the her own child before the 3rd woman went to the pen continuing the cycle. Guess were that 2nd child will end up when it gets out of the hospital!
When you find the parents of a young child wasted at 3 in the afternoon and that kid has not been fed for 3 days and the mothers only concern is to get possession for the drugs in the house before we find them it's hard to see them as a victim in those cases. A bug filled house with no sink even in the kitchen to wash dishes the same people that think they are a victim and smile as the get a PR bond like they are winning like Charlie Sheen!
What I see and what you see are not the same thing often !
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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07/22/18 12:18 PM
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That is my perception. Criminalizing drug use has made societal problems worse.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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Your in such a hurry to blame the Government that you are so bias about you might be missing the other points being made the same programs do help some and keep many alive but if they won't help themselves what it the alternative I'd like to hear it!
You see the happy drunk and I see his wife after he gets home and works her over, 2 different views of the same person sometimes!
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Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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It's like a dog with a big litter sucking then it depends what end of the teat your on after a while! LOL The honest are sucking the hind teat.
Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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Interfering with a persons death wish should be illegal.
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Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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Most addicts and alcoholics don't have a death wish. Most wish for the next drink or high. Many wish to get sober/straight but don't have the means to do it.
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Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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Do you think that there a higher percentage of alcoholism today compared to Prohibition?
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Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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07/22/18 02:45 PM
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yes sir how many people do you know that want to smoke meth but don't because its illegal?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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anybody that wants to smoke marijuana already is too. though I cant see what one has to do with the other. its probably beer that's the gateway drug. most people drink alcohol first
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Free needles are you kidding me?
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Your exactly right Finn. Untaxed marijuana is very popular. Reminds me of the love affair many have with untaxed whiskey. The upside is many people are obeying the law and paying the tax. A lot of the homeless that migrated in for the dope are leaving CO now that its legal in CA. No hard winters in SOCAL
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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