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Bobcat foot placement at rub post? #6291628
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Anybody have video of bobcat rubbing on post? I filmed a housecat placing its feet to side of post and rubbing its cheeks on lured post without moving its feet from their original position. I have caught 2 or 3 hundred bobcats but not in rub sets.

So when making a bobcat rub set, do you fence the post in tightly, and what trap placement in relation to lured post do you use?

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Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6291631
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Put two traps in line with a small stone between the traps

Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6291652
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at cat sets I use a lot of fencing to get them on my trap. you can learn from misses. at a set a coyote is working where something went wrong and trap didn't fire there will be tracks ontop of tracks. a cat will leave 2-3 at most. block em in. wont bother a cat at all


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Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6291729
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The whole idea behind using a rub lure to catch bobcats, was invented by trappers who did not know how to properly guide a bobcat's foot at a set. The idea was to keep them moving their feet while rubbing on the lure. You see this form of trapping all the time in a lot of bobcat trapping videos where the trapper hasn't figured how cats react at a set. For the most part they are accomplished canine trappers who were taught how to trap by someone else and have never took the time to understand cats. They either use the biggest trap allowable by law or use two traps per set. This is the only way they know how to reduce misses. Evidently Danny Clifton isn't one of these men. What he said is spot on. A bobcat will plant his feet and contort his neck and body to smell the set, once his curiosity is satisfied he is gone. On most cat sets, the trap should be a minimum of 12" from the attractor. As far as your question about trap placement on a rub set. I would advise raising the lure slightly, where he has to raise his head a little. Just guessing, I would say 20" above the ground and put it on a small piece of white fake fur nailed to the tree so the lure stays put at that height. This should put both front feet together very close to the base of the tree. I would think that a smaller diameter tree would work better so he doesn't have the start of the roots to stand on. I'm not speaking from experience because I haven't found the need for rub sets. I'm suggesting this as a place to start, knowing bobcat behavior.

Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6292252
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Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6292315
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I love rub sets. At head level or a bit higher. My preference is on the end of a long stick I can move forward or back. Back edge of trap right straight line below the end of stick. Castor. Back Breaker preferably. The stick is the guide. The feet follow the nose. Usually toms.

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Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6292368
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Why take a chance on a rub set (or dirt hole, cubby, or flat set) and have to worry about trap placement?

The one and only set you need is a properly made walk through set. The trap placement is dead center in the middle of the fence or brush opening. As is the cats paw.

Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6292385
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Are you saying a bobcat won't rub on a lure that's formulated for this kind of response?

Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6292400
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Cheek rub set was the one I used the most, rock walls, Boulder piles, cedar trunk,

Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: John Sullivan] #6292430
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Originally Posted By: trapsRus
Why take a chance on a rub set (or dirt hole, cubby, or flat set) and have to worry about trap placement?

The one and only set you need is a properly made walk through set. The trap placement is dead center in the middle of the fence or brush opening. As is the cats paw.


Read this again and believe it. Lure optional.


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Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6292662
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Quote:
The one and only set you need is a properly made walk through set.


For single concept trappers?

Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Yes sir] #6292670
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Originally Posted By: Yes sir
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Are you saying a bobcat won't rub on a lure that's formulated for this kind of response?


No sir, Yes Sir, ... sorry that made me chuckle. Rub lures definitely work. I've talked to trappers that swear by them. I'm sure there are some great rub lures out there.

Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6292748
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After a thousand plus cats and many many on trail cam I would never say I "understand" cat behavior. A few predictable traits but not even close to understanding them.

One of the better cat trappers in the state of NV, heck the entire country once told me he figures we catch as many cats on accident as we do on purpose.
Anyone who has ever run more than a couple trail cams on their cats sets I'm certain would agree.

ML

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Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6292799
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One of the things my Bengal cat does the most is rubs his cheeks on nearly everything, including me

Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6292873
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I 'll get some popcorn


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Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: red mt] #6292875
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Originally Posted By: red mt
I 'll get some popcorn


I'll get the sodas. Diet or regular?

Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6292882
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Thanks Red.Get some extra.
I would consider using cage traps a huge disadvantage,vs foot traps.It's why every one has fought so hard against them.

Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Furvor] #6292888
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Re: Bobcat foot placement at rub post? [Re: Lazarus] #6292897
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Originally Posted By: Lazarus
Originally Posted By: red mt
I 'll get some popcorn


I'll get the sodas. Diet or regular?


Regular please
Thanks
Salt butter on the corn?

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Just plain. I think there will be plenty of flavor . . . .

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