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I don't know about this one. I think the guy was justified in drawing but not shooting. Although all I have is the video, I don't know what was said. However, the guy that was shot was backing away at the time. In my opinion, from the evidence presented here, this was not a clean shooting. This guy is lucky he is not going to prison for murder.
Yea, i saw that on the news and was kinda surprised they didn't press charges. But, like you said, without knowing the whole story, it's hard to know the deal.
Well, the entire shooting could have been avoided from the get go and even a few times after that. I think the shooter takes the blame for the entire incident even happening. If he was that worried about someone parked in a handicap spot, he should have called or flagged down a cop. When you are armed, you want to avoid confrontation not initiate it. I don't like to blame the shooter but from what is seen here, wrong is wrong.
Well, the entire shooting could have been avoided from the get go and even a few times after that. I think the shooter takes the blame for the entire incident even happening. If he was that worried about someone parked in a handicap spot, he should have called or flagged down a cop. When you are armed, you want to avoid confrontation not initiate it. I don't like to blame the shooter but from what is seen here, wrong is wrong.
That's what I see too from what we can see.
What makes the guy think it's ok to take it upon himself to tell other people what to do? Too bad the guy that came out of the store didn't just knock him out instead of being nice and just shoving him away. If he was using the language and shouting at the lady and 5 year old kid in the car in the way it appears on the video.
You say justified to draw, if that is so, the shot should have been instantaneous and justified as well.
Why is this your opinion? On T.V I see people draw their weapon and not shoot. It's usually followed by, "get the ground and don't move, you're under arrest."
The shooting looks like murder to me. The victim was shot when he no longer appears to be acting aggressively, plus the shooter is the instigator of the conflict. The argument could be made that the man, who is killed, is coming to the defense of another, when he shoves the aggressive acting shooter. I hope the prosecutor changes his mind and charges the shooter with murder. I hope the shooter is found guilty and executed.
What makes you think there will be a civil case? All states are different, here if the shooting was ruled justified then no civil liability charges can be filed. As far as being nice and just shoving him to the asphalt remember the deceased first used physical violence in what was a verbal argument. I don't think you can find legal justification for his action, also check out his rap sheet, not dealing with an angel here, no matter how the media wants you to believe that. For all we know that guy could have told him he was going to curb stomp him while he was down. It was ruled justified shooting and that's good enough for me. That being said I think 3 stupid people met that day.
What makes you think there will be a civil case? All states are different, here if the shooting was ruled justified then no civil liability charges can be filed. As far as being nice and just shoving him to the asphalt remember the deceased first used physical violence in what was a verbal argument. I don't think you can find legal justification for his action, also check out his rap sheet, not dealing with an angel here, no matter how the media wants you to believe that. For all we know that guy could have told him he was going to curb stomp him while he was down. It was ruled justified shooting and that's good enough for me. That being said I think 3 stupid people met that day.
All I heard was the sheriff decided not to charge him. Maybe you have more information on it than that? I'd say it's wide open for the surviving victims of the shooting to sue the guy, but I'm no lawyer, just guessing based on the little info I have from the video. Also you can't shoot people just because they may be bad people, so his rap sheet should not come into pay here.
You say justified to draw, if that is so, the shot should have been instantaneous and justified as well.
I disagree. Drawing the weapon was, at least by the video, enough to stop this attack and make the guy retreat. Brandishing a firearm often has this effect. Many people have been saved by simply showing the firearm.
There are two parts to the argument taking place. 1) the guy had no business confronting the woman about her parking. 2) He shot the male in the above scenario.
I don't agree with the first argument. We are all responsible for policing the actions of each other - to a point. A simple friendly reminder of " Hey you are in a handicapped spot, someone else may need" would be fine. Verbally assaulting her over it isn't. I've asked a number of folks who were parked in fire lanes (on top of the words no less) if they were with the fire department. It's a pet peeve of mine to see people who feel entitled enough to park where they choose.
The second half, it as a bad shoot. The white male, wasn't in immediate danger anymore. He was on the ground with several steps between them. The Black male was defending the woman, by standing up to this guy. His intent - to me - was clear. Back off. It wasn't to kill or maim. It was to get him off her. To me, it's not an iffy shoot. The white male was out of line in his use of a weapon.
"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living; the world owes you nothing; it was here first. " --Mark Twain.
If the guy getting pushed would have cracked his skull and died I will guarantee the pusher would have got it for manslaughter. The pusher was guilty of assault, you can't put your hands on anyone anymore.
Under Florida law, the shooter could have been charged with simple assault on the woman and child for just threatening them by verbally abusing them and raising his hand.
The old guy was being a knucklehead. I don't know Florida law, but here you can park in a handicap spot(with tag or placard displayed) if the one handicapped is getting out of the vehicle. How did the old man know that lady wasn't waiting for a handicapped person that went in the store? Maybe the placard was not displayed because they forgot. If someone started chewing me out back when my Bride was somewhat mobile and she was in the store as I waited in the blue lined space, there would have been a problem. The guy that got shot was also acting the knucklehead by knocking the old guy to the ground. He could have just told the old dude to pound sand. I agree with K52, some stupid people crossed paths. Bummer it got one of them dead.
