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Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Finster] #6301659
08/14/18 12:11 PM
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It could be that the shooter was tired of thugs illegally parking in the only handicapped spot and that is why he was talking to the woman.

It could be that assaulting someone for speaking to someone else will produce a response that you may not like.

Now, if your going to judge the shooter by past actions then judge the victim as well.

It is my understanding that:
Victim has a long rap sheet, fathering children out of wedlock, those children raised by taxpayer dollars while dad is off committing crime or in jail.

The shooter may be a combat wounded vet who was unable to get up quickly and be ready to defend his life...the thug who assaulted him plus people in the vehicle could have pounced him and beat him to death while he was on the ground. Some of the thug women will beat you silly in a heartbeat.


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Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Finster] #6301698
08/14/18 01:09 PM
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Had the guy continued to advance on the shooter he would have had a better chance with the stand your ground law but the guy turned to walk away he was no longer a threat so no need to shoot him. Doubt the 3 would struggle to hit 100 IQ points if added all together. A aggressive guy VS a vigilantly nothing good will come from it.


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Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Finster] #6301726
08/14/18 01:52 PM
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Your right Marty a lot of could be' s.

The court will decide and get presented hopefully the whole story.

I am not defending the thug. I am making my decision on the video. The thug dropped his hands and was backing away. The shooter started the confrontation. He was taking law enforcement duties into his own hands.

Like Lawdog said you would struggle to get a 100 IQ points between all of them and that's giving the kid in the car 80 of those points.

Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Finster] #6301734
08/14/18 01:59 PM
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Watch the video, the woman gets out and distracts the shooter while the thug comes up and shoves him. Both are in a position to jump him when he shoots.

2 on one. He was in fear for his life.


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Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Finster] #6301735
08/14/18 02:00 PM
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Might think about stopping power here I don't know what the shooter had but the hit was not a "stopper" had the other guy had a gun the fight would of gone on longer and maybe both would of died.


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Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Marty] #6301742
08/14/18 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: Marty
Watch the video, the woman gets out and distracts the shooter while the thug comes up and shoves him. Both are in a position to jump him when he shoots.

2 on one. He was in fear for his life.



Pull gun don't shoot gun will be the problem had he pulled and shot he would be in a better position but to pull the gun and get the result of retreat and then shoot is going to burn him. 2 on one just standing there is not a threat if they are just standing their.


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Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Finster] #6301744
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Not knowing Florida definition of stand your ground law I will have to see how this gets decided.

I see the shooter had control once he pulled the gun and thug was backing off.

I will say with the thug prior record he to was out being a bully on our dime long enough.

It was a matter of time before they both ended up in a situation like this.

Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Finster] #6301779
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All you guys that say you can't judge because we don't know what was said in the video then go on talking about this "thug" and his rap sheet make no sense. Do u think the shooter knew the guy had a rap sheet and that's why he acted out of fear. This was a unjustified shooting and I hope he's charged. Mind your own business and things like this wouldn't happen. If I come out and a guy was talking to my wife inappropriately I'd probably swing for the nose instead of push the guy. Jbyrd why is it that u always envisize his race,"black thug", "black dude", "big black man" like it makes him scarier. If you can't handle heated situations you probably shouldn't carry, and go looking for confrontation

Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Finster] #6301782
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What was said means little really it will go by the actions and the shooter did not need to shoot from what I see it will be that simple!


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Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Marty] #6328131
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Originally Posted By: Marty
It could be that the shooter was tired of thugs illegally parking in the only handicapped spot and that is why he was talking to the woman.



The shooter may be a combat wounded vet who was unable to get up quickly and be ready to defend his life...the thug who assaulted him plus people in the vehicle could have pounced him and beat him to death while he was on the ground. Some of the thug women will beat you silly in a heartbeat.


and if your "may be" is true, then he shouldnt be going around letting his alligator mouth write checks his frail, tapole arse cant cash...and yelling and screaming at women, real tough guy... he desreved to get shoved to the ground, and a few kicks in his fat gut, to learn a lesson.... to shut up and mind his own business

the shooter should be shot and thrown in a ditch.


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Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Finster] #6328132
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Along with scumbags that park in the handicapped spots.


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Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: BigBob] #6328344
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Re: Very "iffy" CCW shooting. [Re: Hupurest] #6328353
09/18/18 09:48 PM
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[quote=Hupurest
and if your "may be" is true, then he shouldnt be going around letting his alligator mouth write checks his frail, tapole arse cant cash...and yelling and screaming at women, real tough guy... he desreved to get shoved to the ground, and a few kicks in his fat gut, to learn a lesson.... to shut up and mind his own business

the shooter should be shot and thrown in a ditch.

[/quote]

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