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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6294902
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Iím one of the guys that doesnít get upset when pulled over. If Iíve been pulled over it was my own fault, lol. Only one time in my life was I stopped and seriously ďdetainedĒ I followed all their commands and was still a tad rough handled. Even in my late teens/early 20ís I had enough common sense to listen. As they were about to cuff me, with my face in the pavement and a knee in my back while the other Trooper covered me with his sidearm, a call came in they had caught the bank robber, lol. They asked are you sure? And said then who do we have? Apparently my truck matched a perfect description of someone who had robbed a bank and shot someone. I was young and on my way back to base from leave. They offered to have their commander come out and I could file a formal complaint. I made a deal since time was precious to me, just give me an escort to the State line and weíd say no harm no foul! The one trooper smiled and said try and keep up! One in front and one behind me. Ended up making it back to base with plenty of time to spare, lol.

Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6294903
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Lucky you.

I got rear ended while stopped at a light in a small town in Minnesota last week. The lady was a local and had significant damage to her front end, although still driveable. My truck had a bent bumper and slightly pushed in quarter panel.

We pulled off to the side and started exchanging info. Along comes some slick sleeved county deputy. He says it is a state highway so must be handled the the State Patrol. I suggested we finish exchanging info, he could do a report if he wanted, and we could go on our way. You'd think I had called his mother a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). He went on a rampage about me arguing with him. Next thing his sergeant shows up. They do absolutely nothing. No small talk no checking licenses. They just stood there looking important while waiting for the State Patrol to show up. After a half hour delay they tell the bear what happened, and take off.


Papa bear takes our info, writes a quick report, gives the two of us a sheet containing both of our info and a blank report to file. So danged near an hour for something that could have been handled two levels down in a couple minutes.

So, luck of the draw. Some are efficient, some are just there for harassment.


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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6294909
08/05/18 11:56 AM
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On a related note, don't call the police to conduct a welfare check if your loved one is hard of hearing and armed:
https://patch.com/california/saratoga/wi...ta-clara-county

Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6294920
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Yes most of the time that is the outcome but tell that to the family of the man on his knees begging for his life in the hotel when they opened fire with their AR and killed a man crying and begging. It takes common sense on both sides and way to many folks are losing their lives when it isnít justified to kill them. I stand for law enforcement but not cowards behind a badge.

Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: oldtrapper] #6294969
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Originally Posted By: oldtrapper
Really... what is the law up there? Do you have to tell the cops you have a weapon?

Here in Arizona you don't have to say anything unless they ask.
It makes more sense to have the officer ask you rather than yelling out the window "hey I have a gun". I am pretty sure that would put any rookie on high alert... the last thing you want is to have Barney go onto fight or flight mode. I've had one go into fight or flight mode on me as I was asking him a simple question. I had my nine year old daughter with me at Quick trip. I forgot to say I open carry, anyway as soon as his face turned beat red, I said never mind and walked away from him. I wish I had gotten his name, he needs more training before he hurts someone.



The law up here says. When a officer approaches you, you tell him "I have a CPL, and I am carrying". If you just give the officer your liscence and registration and he goes to his car and runs you, and the computer says you have a CPL And you ARE CARRYING. you will be charged and risk loosing your CPL. I think it's a fine the first time and a fine and loss of CPL second time.

So yes. You tell them your carrying. But not "I have a gun". It's "officer I have a CPL, and I am carrying" He will ask where the gun is and if you can get your papers without reach toward the gun

In my case the answer was "no, the gun is on my side and my wallet is right by it". He just took a diffe t position to stand in, up his light on my hand and said "go ahead and get your wallet"

Simple and done


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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6294972
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That's a strange law to have to inform the officer you have a license and are carrying.
I'm not suggesting a person lie, but to be required to inform the officer even if they don't ask...surprising.

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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6294977
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Yep..seems like to me that are too many laws..I don't think one can walk anywhere anymore without breaking some kind of law...


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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: AJE] #6295001
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Originally Posted By: AJE
That's a strange law to have to inform the officer you have a license and are carrying.
I don't even remember the requirement here, in MN. But, since I am always carrying, I simply automatically hand the officer the three documents that are always together in my wallet:
  • Driver's license
  • insurance card
  • CCW
I don't say a word, other than pleasant greeting. Usually, I'm asked if I'm carrying and where. Since I've already produced the required documentation, there's no longer a need to reach for anything. From that point on it's hands in sight on the steering wheel or if requested on the dash.


In this last incident I mentioned, the full grown bear just handed it back and went about his business. The county mountys didn't ask for anything so I showed them nothing.


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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6295037
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Respect when mutual is key

Boot licking to negate fear , or to prevent assault up to and including death should be unacceptable

And yet so many are fine with it .


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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6295046
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We are required to declare if we are carrying. Never been a problem for me.


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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6295058
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There is a list of states that you need to inform a officer and the ones you do not only if ask.For a out of state person in another state and have your CCW you need to know the state laws that you are in.
As for being pull over. I all the years I drive and pull over.I did meet some that need to show they are a officer.Mainly the rest was not giver you hard time Some had help me also.So I know times have change so know your laws and go from there wit the state you are in if it is not your home state and even then you need to know the CCW laws of the state not on a forum.


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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6295073
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Originally Posted By: Michigan Trappin
Originally Posted By: warrior
Not amused.

I have been beaten by cops and seen the blue wall of silence in action.
All stemming from my witnessing a case of police brutality and agreeing testify.


So all cops are bad then


No but this is just a stupid thread. No need to preach to the forum like we're a bunch of morons all the while applauding your own tact and good headedness.

Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6295084
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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6295087
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Oh the drama of focusing on that fraction for the 1% the haters gonna hate any chance they get! whistle


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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6295105
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A few years ago I was removed from the truck at gun point after "failing to yield" quickly enough for being on the cell phone.
Hot headed young cop yelling and cussing at me for not pulling over soon enough. Could have easily been killed by that work of art. Took my Benneli and custom coyote rifle. Got to spend 3 months getting those back. First and ever time been hauled to jail. Three hours in there. That was the final straw for me. Too many times been let down by them. My step dad was the chief of police in my home town growing up. Been around cops my whole life. Every family vacation growing up was all cops. Always have voted for whatever initiative/legislative action for more money or whatever for them but not anymore.

Avoid them at all costs. The have let me down and penalized me just to finance their pensions. Highway Patrol is the worst at it.

When you have friends that are in law enforcement you get to hear about all the games they play.

Done with them. Too bad really because there are plenty of good ones.

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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6295284
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Definitely some good guys out there who chose law enforcement as a career . Most do a good job and have the ability to reason

Unfortunately there are many more jack wad tough guys out there with zero ability to handle anything corectly

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Re: Cops pulled me over a beat the crap out...... [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6295947
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I havenít been pulled over in years. Last fall I worked my part time job, went to partnerís house to scrape hides for a couple hours, changed back into my better work clothes and drove home. It was sleeting and raining. I couldnít see the dotted center line very well so I was hugging the right edge white line. Guess I was weaving a little. The cop was nice. He asked for license, registration, and proof of insurance. I also gave him my carry permit and said the pistol was loaded but in the case. He asked if Iíd been drinking, which I said ďnoĒ. I told him I was tired and couldnít see the center line markings so I was holding to the right edge line. Iíve had no priors. I KNOW he didnít do a computer check because I had a carry card. When I gave it to him he simply gave it back.

During my concealed carry class the instructor said a traffic stop when you offer a concealed carry card would take 45-minutes because the officer would do a national search to see if youíd done anything illegal after getting the card. This officer had bigger problems than me so he didnít check. Wearing clean clothes and no scruffy facial hair may have played a part, too.


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Complying with instructions is not boot licking...


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