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Best way to cool down old farm houses #6298228
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Ok folks I live in an old single story farm house built in the early 1900s. Weather here so far has been very hot we had 17 days straight over 100. I have 3 window ac units in the house but by the end of the day it's approaching 80 inside. In the evening as soon as it cools off I turn the ac off and put a box fan in the window at one end and open a window at the other end. Usually it cools off to low 60s at night but it's still 70 inside in the morning

Is it better to flip the fan to where it's sucking?
Who has used an attic fan and how helpful are they?
Give me some ideas. The wife is not liking it lol

Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298243
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put another box fan in the other window,one blows in, one blows out.they will swap air a lot faster that way.

Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298246
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get a different wife?????


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
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Originally Posted By: Gary Benson
get a different wife?????



Lol.......


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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298251
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It will be over soon.....


Blown in insulation in the attic and lots of it will help in the future . That and planting trees around the house helps


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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: Gary Benson] #6298256
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Originally Posted By: Gary Benson
get a different wife?????


Or a better A/C unit....

Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298265
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My first thought, has the home been improved with insulation in especially the ceiling since it was built, or even the walls ? And windows, single or newer double pane ?

I know of quite a number of older places such as you describe that have been renovated to beautiful efficient homes in all seasons.

Anyway , that was my first thought.

Heavy curtains with blinds fitted to the window insides makes wonderful insulation to hold either cool or heat inside all day. I have this setup in my cabin and it routinely keeps the inside a good 20 to around 30 degrees better , summer or winter.

Those wooden slat blinds work wonders and look nice .

Heavy curtains can be on the outside of the sill to easily slide over the blinds, creating a double barrier with versatile uses year round.

And yes, once the outside temp lowers to the inside reading in summer, opening the windows makes it nice....in the mountains here, it can dip to high 30's to mid 40's in summer nights. So lovely breathing in that cool reverse current from the high country every night ....

I have used your idea with fans in years past living in southern places ....try both fan positions , also see where the evening prevailing night breeze generally comes from, and try setting the fans in those windows where that breeze will better enter your home.

Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298276
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Insulation is definitely a huge factor. However, if you can swing the cost a attic fan/ whole house fan can make a huge difference as well. When I was a kid we had one in our OLD 2 story farm house. Once the sun went down the windows came open and the fan was on the rest of the night. First thing in the morning windows were shut and shades drawn on all the southern windows. Stayed reasonably comfortable most of the time.

Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298278
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X2 to what Sharon says and yes attic fans will help one sucking outside air other sucking out inside air moved into a house like yours in 1976 still there now its an old 2 story farmhouse that I spent 40 years renovating and I listened to my Wife


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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298292
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Yes attic fans do great, my house is the same way you get use too it if you let your self, I have a window unit in the bed room, cause I like it cold were I sleep, but most of the time it stays hotter in than out, I go to sleep some nights with a wet towel as a blanket. I find if I tuff it out after about 3 days I don't notice, same in the winter it's a cold camp for poor folk! Kids and wife use to it too!
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298326
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X2 on attic blown insulation

Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298350
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if you use a fan a fan that blow out the window with the best seal around the fan you can make , and vacuum the screen once in a while sometimes that can restrict air movement.

but bigger than that you probably should be putting the fan in the attic , get a thermometer in that attic and see what you have for heat going on up there.

a good tool for finding your heat weaknesses is an inexpensive infer-red thermometer shoot the ceiling if it is much hotter than the walls you have to get that heat out of the attic


if you have a 120 degree oven over your head and your only way to get that heat out is some air movement against the ceiling it will take it getting much cooler for longer to get that heat out , it is also very hard on your roof to have all that heat trapped.

what do you have for vents in the roof ?

you are supposed to have enough attic ventilation that at midnight your attic is within just a few degrees of outside temp

many houses have ridge vents but insufficient eve vents this is where a hole house attic fan can push the warm air in your house up into your attic and cool down the attic and push the hotter air out the ridge vents while drawing air in your open windows.


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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298352
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Ain't no free lunch. If it is hot outside, do you want to suck that air inside?

Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298437
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Our house is an old carriage house, converted to a home in 1914 when the guy that owned it could buy a car and didn't need a carriage anymore. It's two storys, so it a little different than yours. But we have an A/C unit and ductwork in the basement, and another A/C unit and ductwork in the attic, so two complete A/C systems. Thers is only about six inches of insulation under the attic floors. On really hot days (95+), they both run full time in the afternoon, but it's enough to keep it down to 77 and stay comfortable.

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Attic circulation would be a huge help. An attic fan only helps if cooler, outside, air can get in to replace the hot air going out. You will need vented soffits or some kind of gable vent(s) in addition to the attic fan. Obviously, additional insulation in the attic would be helpful too.

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Not the best but works. When the sun goes down, switch the furnace fan to manual and circulate the cooler cellar air through the house.
DON'T leave it on extended time or all night.
If you have a cellar.





Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: Sharon] #6298494
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Originally Posted By: Sharon
My first thought, has the home been improved with insulation in especially the ceiling since it was built, or even the walls ? And windows, single or newer double pane ?

I know of quite a number of older places such as you describe that have been renovated to beautiful efficient homes in all seasons.

Anyway , that was my first thought.

Heavy curtains with blinds fitted to the window insides makes wonderful insulation to hold either cool or heat inside all day. I have this setup in my cabin and it routinely keeps the inside a good 20 to around 30 degrees better , summer or winter.

Those wooden slat blinds work wonders and look nice .



Heavy curtains can be on the outside of the sill to easily slide over the blinds, creating a double barrier with versatile uses year round.

And yes, once the outside temp lowers to the inside reading in summer, opening the windows makes it nice....in the mountains here, it can dip to high 30's to mid 40's in summer nights. So lovely breathing in that cool reverse current from the high country every night ....

I have used your idea with fans in years past living in southern places ....try both fan positions , also see where the evening prevailing night breeze generally comes from, and try setting the fans in those windows where that breeze will better enter your home.


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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298498
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attic fan will probably help

more A/C will help. typically a window AC unit is sized for a single room

we have a small corner fans (like this https://www.amazon.com/Plow-Hearth-1583-BR-Doorway-Finish/dp/B0002IWGTS) that pull air up out of the basement into the kitchen that help too.

the real answer, and the one that hurts the most (im in the same boat myself) is insulation, door, and window upgrades, and a central unit


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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: clulay21] #6298517
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Do you really need the whole house to be cool? How about just where you are. We don't have air conditioning. Don't need it and we live in Iowa. Temps over 100 are not uncommon.
What we do have is a breeze and we take advantage of that. Ceiling fans in the living room and bedroom. Box fan which is moved from window to window.Also a pedestal fan which we move around. We also spend a lot of time outside.
All windows open all the time. Except of course when its raining. Then just the ones that are on the raining side of the house are closed.
You've probably figured out by now that the trick is moving air.
I believe that we do as the "old timers" did.lol Remember air conditioning is a relativly new (around 60 years) home item.
just

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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses [Re: AKAjust] #6298608
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I have lived in a few old farm houses over the years here in Wisconsin. The best method I have found to cool one down is called January.
Of course then the thread would be Best way to warm up old farm houses.

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