Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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It will be over soon.....
Blown in insulation in the attic and lots of it will help in the future . That and planting trees around the house helps
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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My first thought, has the home been improved with insulation in especially the ceiling since it was built, or even the walls ? And windows, single or newer double pane ?
I know of quite a number of older places such as you describe that have been renovated to beautiful efficient homes in all seasons.
Anyway , that was my first thought.
Heavy curtains with blinds fitted to the window insides makes wonderful insulation to hold either cool or heat inside all day. I have this setup in my cabin and it routinely keeps the inside a good 20 to around 30 degrees better , summer or winter.
Those wooden slat blinds work wonders and look nice .
Heavy curtains can be on the outside of the sill to easily slide over the blinds, creating a double barrier with versatile uses year round.
And yes, once the outside temp lowers to the inside reading in summer, opening the windows makes it nice....in the mountains here, it can dip to high 30's to mid 40's in summer nights. So lovely breathing in that cool reverse current from the high country every night ....
I have used your idea with fans in years past living in southern places ....try both fan positions , also see where the evening prevailing night breeze generally comes from, and try setting the fans in those windows where that breeze will better enter your home.
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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X2 to what Sharon says and yes attic fans will help one sucking outside air other sucking out inside air moved into a house like yours in 1976 still there now its an old 2 story farmhouse that I spent 40 years renovating and I listened to my Wife
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
[Re: clulay21]
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if you use a fan a fan that blow out the window with the best seal around the fan you can make , and vacuum the screen once in a while sometimes that can restrict air movement.
but bigger than that you probably should be putting the fan in the attic , get a thermometer in that attic and see what you have for heat going on up there.
a good tool for finding your heat weaknesses is an inexpensive infer-red thermometer shoot the ceiling if it is much hotter than the walls you have to get that heat out of the attic
if you have a 120 degree oven over your head and your only way to get that heat out is some air movement against the ceiling it will take it getting much cooler for longer to get that heat out , it is also very hard on your roof to have all that heat trapped.
what do you have for vents in the roof ?
you are supposed to have enough attic ventilation that at midnight your attic is within just a few degrees of outside temp
many houses have ridge vents but insufficient eve vents this is where a hole house attic fan can push the warm air in your house up into your attic and cool down the attic and push the hotter air out the ridge vents while drawing air in your open windows.
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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Our house is an old carriage house, converted to a home in 1914 when the guy that owned it could buy a car and didn't need a carriage anymore. It's two storys, so it a little different than yours. But we have an A/C unit and ductwork in the basement, and another A/C unit and ductwork in the attic, so two complete A/C systems. Thers is only about six inches of insulation under the attic floors. On really hot days (95+), they both run full time in the afternoon, but it's enough to keep it down to 77 and stay comfortable.
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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Attic circulation would be a huge help. An attic fan only helps if cooler, outside, air can get in to replace the hot air going out. You will need vented soffits or some kind of gable vent(s) in addition to the attic fan. Obviously, additional insulation in the attic would be helpful too.
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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Not the best but works. When the sun goes down, switch the furnace fan to manual and circulate the cooler cellar air through the house. DON'T leave it on extended time or all night. If you have a cellar.
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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My first thought, has the home been improved with insulation in especially the ceiling since it was built, or even the walls ? And windows, single or newer double pane ?
I know of quite a number of older places such as you describe that have been renovated to beautiful efficient homes in all seasons.
Anyway , that was my first thought.
Heavy curtains with blinds fitted to the window insides makes wonderful insulation to hold either cool or heat inside all day. I have this setup in my cabin and it routinely keeps the inside a good 20 to around 30 degrees better , summer or winter.
Those wooden slat blinds work wonders and look nice .
Heavy curtains can be on the outside of the sill to easily slide over the blinds, creating a double barrier with versatile uses year round.
And yes, once the outside temp lowers to the inside reading in summer, opening the windows makes it nice....in the mountains here, it can dip to high 30's to mid 40's in summer nights. So lovely breathing in that cool reverse current from the high country every night ....
I have used your idea with fans in years past living in southern places ....try both fan positions , also see where the evening prevailing night breeze generally comes from, and try setting the fans in those windows where that breeze will better enter your home. Trade your wife in for Sharon......:)
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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Do you really need the whole house to be cool? How about just where you are. We don't have air conditioning. Don't need it and we live in Iowa. Temps over 100 are not uncommon. What we do have is a breeze and we take advantage of that. Ceiling fans in the living room and bedroom. Box fan which is moved from window to window.Also a pedestal fan which we move around. We also spend a lot of time outside. All windows open all the time. Except of course when its raining. Then just the ones that are on the raining side of the house are closed. You've probably figured out by now that the trick is moving air. I believe that we do as the "old timers" did.lol Remember air conditioning is a relativly new (around 60 years) home item. just
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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Move to a more comfortable energy efficient air conditioned house with the current wife.
Find a girlfriend who has an air conditioned house and enjoy the “hot times”.
Try a new hobby - nudism. They say it is cool in hot weather, just be careful of sunburn.
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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Night: Whole house attic fan to suck cooler night air thru the house. Day: Window fan in a south facing window, to pull air from the north side thru the house. Curtains, or window awnings on the South side. Central air conditioning
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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May have already been mentioned, but stop blowing hot air from outside in the house. Even at night, the humidity is high and still not "cool". Keep the A/Cs running at night when they're not fighting the heat. The cooler you can start the morning, the better they'll continue to cool throughout the day. Attic fan would be a big help too, but obviously not an immediate fix. This. I run my window AC's in my old, poorly insulated house all the time when the dew points are higher than the low sixties. I don't know how the humidity is out in Iowa but here in PA in July and August dew points in the mid-seventies are common and that's just miserable. I work outside most of the time and love coming home to a house filled with cool, dry air. I've got one new AC. The new ones shut themselves off when they reach the preset temp. The old ones just shut off the compressor, not the fan. The new one does a test run for ten seconds every fifteen minutes to see if it needs to run again. I like it and the other two older units will be replaced by next summer. I haven't replaced them yet because they still work good and I'm too cheap to "fix" something that ain't broke!
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Re: Best way to cool down old farm houses
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get a different wife????? Why complicate it? Moving the house to a cooler climate would be cheaper and easier. Mike
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